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Post by pnthr30 on Mar 6, 2006 11:58:57 GMT -6
I almost expect a message game from Tucker saying to all voters they made a mistake not making him player of the year. As long as his "message" is within the team concept. Joah scares me sometimes by trying to do too much. I felt he restrained himself nicely from getting into a one on one duel with Schilb. I immediatley thought the same thing..........while I am all for 3's, I gotta admit that sometimes the thing that scares me the most is when JT makes his first 3 - seems like he then immediatley considers himself a "shooter." Sure, he can hit them with some degree of regularity when it is within the context of the offense.....such as a ball reversal, kickout from the post, etc. but when he tries to hit 3's off the dribble, stepbacks, etc. it just makes me cringe. |
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Post by brettpanther17 on Mar 6, 2006 12:16:24 GMT -6
I agree with you here pnthr30... but i think joah will have a different mindset for this game... i see him and polk being matched up against each other and tuck is going to have to shut him down the best he can... although if this does happen im not sure how well we match up againts their 3 guard set that they run very well and that we ran very well last year... i see a hill/sheets matchup, davis/graves matchup leaving either mccoy, tigert, or tucker to guard horan and then there is polk who is going to create a mismatch with his strength if mccoy guards him and a mismatch with his quickness if tigert guards him so i think tucker is the best matchup for polk and probably tigert on ligon or crone whoever their 5th starter is... leaving mccoy to guard horan.... as dumb as it sounds i see mccoy being substituted early for possibly pancratz or avo (without the blown layups avo plays some fierce D on some good players, schilb, cotton, wood etc) anyone else have any input on these matchups?
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Post by pnthr30 on Mar 6, 2006 12:24:00 GMT -6
I agree that AVO is a great ball defender, but he is a very suspect off the ball defender (doesn't help well and often loses his man)........in order to stop the system that BU runs on offense, it requires a pretty thorough understanding of off the ball defense (help and recover, showing on screens (mostly by bigs), hedging on pick and rolls, and proper off the ball positioning so you don't get picked constantly. BU runs a ton of screens, weaves, pick and rolls, dribble outs, etc. and their guards only need a split second of seperation to lauch 3's. In other words, if you lose concentration for a second, it could cost you three points. This is not just directed at AVO, as the entire team will need to focus on stopping BU's outside attack. For a point of comparison, Boo is a pretty good off the ball defender (running through screens, helping out, rebounding down, etc.) but he is a bit suspect in one on one/isolation situations........Mark P. is the same way - great understanding of team "D", just doesn't have the footspeed to stop some people in isolations. I definitely think we have the personell to stop BU, they just all need to be on the same page.  I am sure the guys will be ready to play, but so will BU. IMHO it is important to come out with a lot of energy and not let their shooters get on a roll - make them take tough shots early and hope they are not "on". Seeing as Polk is more on an inside player, I see JT concentrating on banging with him versus trying to be a guard - which sometimes happens when he is matched up with guard type players. |
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Post by brewtownbrian on Mar 6, 2006 14:56:27 GMT -6
I tend to agree with the theory that if Tucker's banging away with Polk on D, then he's more likely to establish himself down low on offense...which leads to higher percentage shots for Joah.
However, I think Tucker has guarded Horan a considerable amount in the past. And in that case, AT or McCoy are going to have to lock down on Polk, most likely McCoy.
And personally, I like the McCoy/Polk match-up. Eventhough McCoy's giving up about 20 lbs. I think his length, range and speed can make up for the weight he gives up...as long as the help defense is there.
Other than that...
Sheets 6'0 175, Graves 6'1 160...between Hill, Boo, Big Shot Al and Avo, they match-up well. Boo will most likely even guard Horan some times.
Let's just hope UWM can handle the zone Butler will eventually slap on them. It's been the UWM weakness most of the season.
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Post by PANTHERfan on Mar 6, 2006 15:03:12 GMT -6
with AT healthy we'll be much more effective against the zone.
we just have a keep the perimeter defended. the first 2 games were very similar. we defended the 3 very well in the first half, adjustments were made and butler heated up in the second. so long as we can dominate the interior and get high percentage looks, which we should, we'll be ok. gonna be a good game but i won't be surprised if we win by 10 plus... of course, i won't be surprised either if it goes right down to the wire the way they shoot 3's.
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Post by brewtownbrian on Mar 6, 2006 15:38:52 GMT -6
with AT healthy we'll be much more effective against the zone. I couldn't agree more. And if Tucker can keep recognizing when a double-team is coming early on and hitting the open man, UWM should be ok against the zone. You're right though AT is such a good passer. I think UWM is best when AT is on the perimeter making an entry pass to Joah. That happened a handful of times against Loyola and it was beautiful! |
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 6, 2006 17:12:41 GMT -6
Thoughts:
1. We need to step above the high screens Butler uses, not go underneath them. If these guys get one foot of separation the ball is going up. GB did a pathetic job of doing this and we know what happened. Extend the perimeter defense and pressure the basketball.
2. On offense, we need to push the ball in transition before Butler is able to set up their zone. Tucker is really going to have to run his a$$ off down the floor to establish low-block position.
3. Boo needs to hit his shot. The only reason we didn't win handily in Butler was Boo had one of his poorest shooting nights of his career. If Boo is on, there's really no way Butler can defend us.
4. Crash the offensive boards. We have a physical advantage against Butler as Crone and Polk are really the only bangers on the team. If we send Tucker, McCoy, Tigert, and Derrick Ford to the glass I really don't see how they can compete.
5. I don't mean to seem overconfident, but Butler is really up against it this game. Going against a tournament-tested, 5th-year senior dominated team in front of a hostle sellout crowed is tough for any squad, much less for a Butler team that has obvious deficiencies we can exploit. If we execute our game plan, we win, and win by a nice margin.
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Post by CellBlockInmate on Mar 6, 2006 18:07:24 GMT -6
^^^This is, in my mind, the single most important focal point for our D. The backcourt is going to need to fight over these screens, not get lazy and go underneath --> or it could become a long night.
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Post by uwm97 on Mar 6, 2006 19:45:18 GMT -6
I was browsing around Butler's message board, and there's actually some pretty good stuff on there. Here was a post I can't disagree with at all:
To be honest, I think it is going to take a little luck.
If Milwaukee plays the way they can play, with 10,000 fans behind them and PLENTY of rest, it will be very tough. But, since we all like making lists, here are some of my keys:
1) How does Butler handle the press. Milwaukee had a lot of token press for us in the first two games. They would show press and then back off once we got the ball in. Saturday, they hounded Loyola in the decisive stretches.
2) Butler's starting 3 guards have to shoot 50% or better from 3. Sorry Bruce, but 1-9 will not do it tomorrow. Sheets and Graves have been on fire lately, so let's hope it sticks.
3) Rebounding - Duh! That was a hard key. We need to keep the margin at -5 or better. Actually, I will accept -10 if we shoot 65% from the floor.
4) Intensity - Remember that big run in the 1st half we gave up to Detroit? We didn't match their intensity. This environment will be much tougher.
Just another game where Butler is at a disadvantage both in size and (arguably) in skill. They will have to play a near perfect game, which they have proved they can do.
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Don't shoot so much Tone.
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Post by fan on Mar 6, 2006 20:16:51 GMT -6
Anyone want to volunteer to make a sign for me that says: "Polk Me!"?
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Post by johnjaymilwaukee on Mar 6, 2006 23:33:52 GMT -6
Just a little history... Zero score and four years ago, a freshman named Avery Sheets sunk the miracle shot at Hinkle Field House, snatching the season title away from UWM. This time, may history be kinder to us in our own house. |
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Post by johnjaymilwaukee on Mar 7, 2006 0:31:36 GMT -6
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Post by coldwind on Mar 7, 2006 0:42:06 GMT -6
I don't know about all of you,but I've seriously been giddy all day long.
If we win tomorrow...I can't wait to set my driving plans
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Post by bball30 on Mar 7, 2006 0:56:30 GMT -6
What time do the doors open up tomorrow?
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Post by coldwind on Mar 7, 2006 1:04:59 GMT -6
Probably an hour before game time,though if the first buses arrive at 6:30,I would guess that.But this IS Milwaukee...
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