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Post by bball30 on Dec 16, 2005 9:54:09 GMT -6
Haven't had time to see if this was covered anywhere else, i just got home from madison and have to go to work, but I wanted to express how much of an IDIOT Michael Hunt is. His "keeping it close" article is a joke. Some of the worst "un biased " writing I have EVER seen. To say the Badgers play mistake free, and with an iron resolve this year is a joke. How diappointing a Milwaukee newspaper can't even write a decent story about the game. GO PANTHERS
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Post by PantherLou on Dec 16, 2005 10:04:04 GMT -6
I thought it was a good article. He made it clear that keeping it close isn't good enough.
By the way, that technical was a JOKE.
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Post by PANTHERfan on Dec 16, 2005 10:05:14 GMT -6
i'm not so sure it was a bad article. he actually stuck up for Milwaukee about the disgusting display of "officiating."
"Then came the turning point, a technical foul against Jeter with 8:21 left in a tie game. He was incensed, and had a right to be, because Kevin Massiah was hacked while going for a dunk, and no call was made. (This from the same crew that put the wrong Badger on the foul line late in the game)."
at least he didn't call us "lowly" like last year. now that p!ssed me off!
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Post by milwsport on Dec 16, 2005 11:03:16 GMT -6
I didn't like the headline but I did like sentiment. What he was saying is that for UWM, keeping it close isn't good anymore, because they are good enough to win games like this. Plus he basically said we were hosed.
That's a HUGE advance for his thought processes. Especially given his pro-Marquette sympathies. I'm sure we aren't going to be the only ones to notice that we gave the Badgers a game and the Golden Chickens didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2005 11:20:42 GMT -6
Sentiment was good. In response to his biases, when I read the article I felt that he was pro-UWM and thought he felt that UWM got hosed on a few calls. Hunt did note that the officiating was not at a high level.
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Post by BBFran on Dec 16, 2005 11:36:51 GMT -6
That was a poor crew last night. I never like to see Sanzere and Collins on the floor. But the officiating was pretty bad both ways. There were definitely a few "makeup" calls thrown our way.
Bottom line is that we had some great chances (like Boo's two wide open shots from the corner that missed) and just came up short. And to be honest, Rob's T hurt us. I don't think you'll see that again.
Bottom line is we made a great showing for about 27 minutes but didn't get it done. The refs didn't lose the game for us -- we just didn't win it. And let's not forget, UW was smoking hot to start the game and finished the game very well. Give them credit, too.
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Post by aknowsense on Dec 16, 2005 11:55:56 GMT -6
And to be honest, Rob's T hurt us. I don't think you'll see that again. Although the T did hurt us the no call was rubbage and IMO hurt us even more. It's nice to see RJ letting his team know that he will not let that stuff slide and I'm sure his players like to see him sticking up for them.
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Post by pnthr97 on Dec 16, 2005 11:58:51 GMT -6
I agree. And, if we were down by 12-15 with a minute or so left, I guarantee that RJ would've gotten tossed. He had enough and would've let someone know about it in a not so pleasant way.
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Post by BBFran on Dec 16, 2005 12:13:51 GMT -6
No coach wants to "send a message" to the refs by getting a T with the game tied at a strong opponent's arena with seven minutes left. That's just foolish. It also suggests to your players that they're playing against the refs, too. That's REALLY foolish.
I reiterate, I don't think you'll see Rob do that again.
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Post by damasa on Dec 16, 2005 12:59:45 GMT -6
No coach wants to "send a message" to the refs by getting a T with the game tied at a strong opponent's arena with seven minutes left. That's just foolish. It also suggests to your players that they're playing against the refs, too. That's REALLY foolish. I reiterate, I don't think you'll see Rob do that again. What? He wasn't sending a message to the refs. He was sending the message to his players. IMO he shouldn't have been called for the T. The ref from across court called him on it, not the one that was literally there. That whole series of events/calls was just garbage. FWIW, I'm glad Jeter did it even if it was at the expense of the game. It showed pure emotion and like many others have said, I am also really starting to like the guy. Yes, the Badgers did play a great game. They came out of the blocks and A. Tucker was going nuts.
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Post by BBFran on Dec 16, 2005 13:21:14 GMT -6
I would never want to see a coach do something at the expense of the game. It's all about the game -- all about winning the game.
You should like Rob, because he is all about winning the game.
Anyway, it was a great game and a tough loss, but it's behind us and no sense overanalyzing it now. Let's beat the green out of GB on Saturday!
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Post by PantherLou on Dec 16, 2005 13:50:18 GMT -6
I reiterate, I don't think you'll see Rob do that again. Won't see what again? I know you are a fan of both of these programs, but I can tell you with great conviction that the officiating was horrible. The final count on fouls was 29-15. If you think that is "pretty bad both ways"... well, I disagree with that. On the technical in question, I will reiterate: ROB said NOTHING. The call was made by the official across the court, the same guy who made the bogus non-call against Massiah, after Rob raised his hands. Meanwhile, Bo Ryan is screaming at the refs constantly, and never a word to him. I won't blame the officials for this loss, because we still could have won, and to be a consistent winner, you need to overcome shoddy officiating, but they were absolutely not consistent in the least, and it hurt us A LOT more than it hurt UW-Madison.
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Post by BBFran on Dec 16, 2005 14:07:43 GMT -6
Lou -- as I said it was a bad crew. And I wouldn't even disagree that the poor officiating hurt us more than it hurt UW. But that happens in the opponent's arena. It happens in the BC to MU's opponents. It happens in the Cell to OUR opponents. And it happens a lot to new coaches who don't have a history of sideline conversations with the same officials like Bo Ryan does. There are a lot of human factors when it comes to officiating. It's just something you have to overcome.
Just one reason why winning on the road is tough.
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Post by milwsport on Dec 16, 2005 14:32:13 GMT -6
Taking Tucker out of the game was huge for us. And it was the same guy on all those calls.
I read an article on the net about how conference refs are assigned. Apparently league offices assign the refs who get the highest grades from a coach to a non-conference game that coach's team is playing in.
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Post by dylanrocks on Dec 16, 2005 14:51:53 GMT -6
In case you missed it, the official with the one-sided whistle was covered in hairspray. I believe his name is Skiles. Never, ever trust any official (or coach) who uses hair products.
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