Tennessee Tech

[BBFran]

Why the hell would I care if the team on Wisconsin Avenue had lost to Tenn Tech? But I know this -- if their point guard had played badly all night AND fouled out in about twenty game minutes they sure as hell would have lost.

I said before the game tonight that our seniors had to play like it to win this game. Two of them did. The rest?

I'll tell you what DOES amuse me is UWM fans thinking that it's outrageous to lose -- away -- to a good mid-major! Were all you guys born yesterday? Don't you understand that's exactly what all the other good teams thought as recently as two years ago about losing to us? Do you not remember the Ric Cobb years? We have had three very good years. It's great; it's a base to build on. But suddenly we should be appalled at a tough, close road loss to a good mid-major? Yikes.

[nighthawk]

I expect more from this team....I'm sorry your standards have apparently not risen, and you are willing to accept mediocrity.

Later kids...it's been a hoot!

GO PANTHERS!!!!

[Womack]

Agreed...I do believe that discipline is needed to run a successful program but I just dont see that fire out of Jeter that we have gotten so lucky to have with Bo and Bruce

[bball30]

First off, Last years offense was a "version" of the same offense being ran this year, the emphasis is different, that's all.

Secondly, Womack, are you saying you would rather UWM hire a coach with a system that will benefit this team for one year only with the seniors UWM has? That's absurd. Very few coaches have run Bruce's system with success, and keep in mind, Jeter's recruits aren't really in action yet. Basketball is a delicate process, the season is 20 some games long for a reason. 1-2 with a couple tough road losses is nothing to piss and moan about. Basically you need to get a clue. No one on here is "trash", and your number of posts hardly has to do with anything. wow.

GO PANTHERS

[Womack]

Fran-

Yes that is the level that this program has risen to...We should be upset with losses..Only losers accept loses..Thats what it sounds like to me...There are no moral victories..Especially against Tennessee Tech..I know they are good but there is NO WAY we go there last year and lose to that team with the style of ball we played..It sounded to me like TT played sloppy and undisciplined ball (I dont know since I did not see or hear the game) but we would have ran them into the ground with the scheme and system we used last year...

We do expect perfection with this team since we expereienced so much success with the same players last year

[aknowsense]

bbfran said:

We've lost on the road to a team that might be national top five, and to a very tough mid-major with an immense home court adantage. Sound familiar? And everyone wants to throw in their chips!?

We are a very tough mid-major team, we should/will be in the national top five, and with the talent that we have there is no reason that we should lose this game.

Tennesse Tech is good, very good at home but with our talent pound for pound UWM should beat them.

I don't think anyone here is jumping ship nor do I think your knowledge is better or worse than anyone else's on this board.

I'm frustrated because if you would've said to me at the start of the season based on the talent we have coming back that we would lose to Memphis by 27, beat U.I. by only 29, and lost to Tennesse Tech by 5 trailing the whole second half by as much as 15 I would've said you were crazy!.

This is why I'm so frustrated, I expected better I'm not saying we should be 3-0 (2-1 definately) but from what I've heard I'm a little concerned.

[Womack]

Bball30

Did I ever say my number of posts has anything to do with anything? I do agree that one year of success with a system is not the whole world. We do need to look at the future, but we must also live in the here and now and play to win this year..We should not be in a transition year this year....This is a year where we continue to build our reputation as a powerhouse mid major..I think a nice compromise would be to slowly work the guys into the new system as the season goes on and let them run and gun and press a little and slowly decrease that as the season goes on if that is what he really wanted to do...

Its also frustrating because of the promises Jeter made to keep the upbeat style of offense here...He made those and they are empty promises as far as I have seen in the first few games

[bball30]

"there is NO WAY we go there last year and lose to that team with the style of ball we played.."

Um, Valpo???

[Womack]

The bottom line is...

Change is hard to accept and some of us who have been there for quite some time might take a little longer to adjust...For some of the kids who are still in college and have only been here following for 2,3,4 years or so it will be easier...I still have confidence that Rob will do a good job as he is a great basketball mind but I am so damn frustrated with the results we have gotten so far

Oh well...Lets get out to the Cell on Saturday and be loud

Hoffman give me a ring if you read this

[BBFran]

Look guys, those of you who have been on this board for a few years and following this program as good fans, I applaud you.

But you know what? I have been following this program for over thirty years. Check out my tag line. Those were my knees jammed in Jerry Tarkanian's back when we were playing Long Beach State and Ed Ratliff at Baker. I was there in the MECCA Arena when we upset Manhattan. I have lived through the chutes and ladders of watching this program go up and down from D1 to D3 and back to D1.

Yeah, I'm old. It's my 51st birthday today, as a matter of fact. You wouldn't know it to see me screaming at the Cell. And yeah -- I've been to every game this year too.

So trust me when I tell you that you need a longer view of this than five games. Bruce didn't set the world afire in his first five games. Bo didn't. And we lost two extremely important players from last year. The whole team is adjusting to that just like it's adjusting to a new coach.

Pearl is gone. None of us wanted it but it happened. But he ain't coming back. So be it. Rob Jeter is a hell of a coach. This team WILL BE very good. So blow off some steam if you want tonight, but please, give these guys a chance.

[Pantherholic]

womack said:

Its also frustrating because of the promises Jeter made to keep the upbeat style of offense here...He made those and they are empty promises as far as I have seen in the first few games

how the hell are u gonna make an offense more uptempo when the players are still struggling to learn the basic offense? jeter will make it more uptempo when the players know/are comfortable w/ this system. do u teach a kid advanced chemistry in the middle of teaching them the basic principles of it?

[Womack]

Bball30

Valpo had a solid year last year...We lost by a FT at the end of the game on a bullsh*t foul that was called at midcourt when Chris Hill went in the air with the other player from Valpo for a loose ball....How can you compare that to tonight when we were consistently down by 15 in the second half?

[TBone]

You're right Fran. We have lost to one darn good team, and to another solid team, both on their court.

I would say there's nothing to be ashamed of in that except for the fact that in all reality, we should have won tonight. If Joah would have minorly showed up, if we could have gotten a few more turnovers or easy baskets, we win tonight.

I play volleyball competitively, and there's nothing more frustrating than losing to a team I know my team should have beat. That's why I'm frustrated tonight. I feel we could have and should have beat them if we would have not had so many bad turnovers, poor shot selection, and maybe actually gotten an easy shot or two. We didn't.

And I've been around since the Steve Antrim era. I was at the Fieldhouse the last time we beat Wisconsin. Best damn night of my life, and I didn't get beat up! Craig Greene owned Michael Finley!

T

[Rambler63]

Like it or not (and I think I would like it if I were in that position), UWM is the Duke of the Mid-Majors right now, and everybody want to prove themselves by knocking you off.

The problem is that you don't have enough weapons from outside-- only Boo Davis is a reliable three point shooter. Tucker is a guy that drives to the basket, and you're not going to get a whole lot of calls on the road that way. Tigert was your best three point shooter tonight. You also lost Wright, who was a solid rebounder that could take some fouls and use some muscle inside.

I wouldn't blame Jeter-- he did a really good job patching up the loss of the recruiting class and he's still learning. You'll be fine by the time conference play starts.

[Womack]

Pantheraholic-

Well recieved...I know what you are saying but I sitll think we need to do something different becuase we just dont look comfortable out on the court

Fran-

Apologies for underestimating how diehard you are...It is always good to have fans such as yourself...Lets just make sure we go out there Saturday and get a win or sh*ts gonna fly into the fan