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Post by Hack on Dec 9, 2004 12:40:21 GMT -6
6thman,
Sure, all of you in the student section are all adults so you can handle a little vulgarity.
However, do you think you are the only ones who hear your vulgarity? How about the father who brings his 8-year-old son or daughter to the game?
Not to say that the "BS" or "A-hole" chants will ever go away. Just something to think about when starting chants that may be vulgar.
Those chants don't fall on deaf ears.
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Post by pnthr30 on Dec 9, 2004 13:00:18 GMT -6
6thman, Sure, all of you in the student section are all adults so you can handle a little vulgarity. However, do you think you are the only ones who hear your vulgarity? How about the father who brings his 8-year-old son or daughter to the game? Not to say that the "BS" or "A-hole" chants will ever go away. Just something to think about when starting chants that may be vulgar. Those chants don't fall on deaf ears. True story.  |
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Post by Craig on Dec 9, 2004 13:12:50 GMT -6
i think he was just trying to say that if your going to say "push it" you might as well just say BS, its sounds the same and kids are going to think your saying BS anyways, its going to be said no matter what, if you get a bunch of drunk college kids mad at the refs there not going to be thinking about little kids around. just my two cents
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Post by admin on Dec 9, 2004 14:07:18 GMT -6
Dutch, I agree! I dont like Rick either... ;D.
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Post by lang on Dec 9, 2004 15:31:02 GMT -6
ill join the rick bashing its great fun!!!! ;D
The BS Chant is a little vulgar but at least its a chant that seems to get the whole section involved. If we start chanting fu then maybe you would have an issue. It is still a lot less vulgar than what the kids will hear next wednesday at the kohl center
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fan
Sophomore
Don't shoot so much Tone.
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Post by fan on Dec 9, 2004 18:44:07 GMT -6
speaking of which-
as a freshman I always love the
give me a rope
giive me a tree
so i can hang the referee
give me a bullet
give me a gun
so i can shoot the other one
when can we take the moth balls off that one?
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Post by uwmfan on Dec 9, 2004 19:32:01 GMT -6
Hack, Thanks for suggesting the bit of clean up...even at the home games I'm a little embarrassed by the slang....not for my sake, but for just those parents of which you speak. If we're trying to build fan base, we need to count everyone in; alienate many of those younger UWM alum/newer parents and all we do is hurt ourselves. Interestingly, I took two of my boys (7 and 5) to the UIC game....had seats right in front of that great UWM section of students/parents. One young fan from UWM got going on the language and I kindly asked him to be a little respectful and much to his credit he was very apologetic and cleaned it up. It was very much appreciated. My older son saw video of the Ron Artest incident...when I told him we were going to the UIC game he asked if a fight in the stands would break out. Kids pick up on what we say and how we act. Let's have fun but also lead by example... ...now dismounting the soapbox....  |
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Post by ThePaintedOne on Dec 9, 2004 23:15:23 GMT -6
It really is just about getting someone to start the cheers! i don't think i did anything special in years past but just like the past 4 yrs (once i'm back) I WILL NOT MISS A BEAT.
Once a Panther, always a Panther
Every group needs a leader, and as johnjay says the first to get arrested, you all know i'm there for you no matter what. I'm ready to step back up to that responsiblility, it's been too long.
dk
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Post by Craig on Dec 9, 2004 23:29:55 GMT -6
i knew this kid just couldnt stay away
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dutchpthr
Junior
ain't much if it ain't dutch
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Post by dutchpthr on Dec 10, 2004 0:32:50 GMT -6
i don't think that anyone has it in their head to go completely off on a vulgar rant at every game. now even i have been gulity of saying a lot of things out very loud that i am sure i probably shouldn't have said. thats why i like it so much when i get to yell "I disagree with that call sir" so often, but there have been times where i got pissed off and just kinda went a bit to far i'll admit it.
But the thing is that i really don't think that the "bullsh*t" or "asshole" (which to my recolection hasn't been used that often as of yet at the games) chants are ever going to go away at a college game whatever the sport is. Especailly when any one of us goes to a Badger game (not to single them out but they are the most noteable) you hear many more things than just "bullsh*t" or "asshole" in the student section. Now not to say that it is right but it is going to happen and i'm not really sure there is much that anyone is going to be able to do about.
I do understand where people are coming from when they do ask if things can get cleaned up, but to be frank and honest it is asking a lot to get rid of the "bullsh*t" chant completely. But if it makes any one out there any more at ease I will try to watch the things that i say out loud and as well as try and get others to watch it a bit more too. But i'm just trying to be realistic some. Not trying to stir up anyone's feathers or anything but thats just my 2 cents on the matter.
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Post by uwm6thman on Dec 10, 2004 8:23:56 GMT -6
All said and done I think that our crowd is within the limits of being respectful. Yes there are going to be some "bullsh*t" calls but that is just college basketball. Our crowd really doesn't take it past that limit, we cheer as loud as we can and say what ever we need to say to get into the other players heads. I don't think we could use the name "Klotsche Krazies" if we were saying "push it".
Can't wait for the Detroit game DK!
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Post by pnthr30 on Dec 10, 2004 8:40:09 GMT -6
I agree, for the most part, the student section is fine. The students are are there to have a good time and I don't think it is reasonable to ask them to make it a completely "G" rated section. Do I participate in the "BS" cheers........no, but I don't have a real problem with it - at the right time. I think there is a line of sorts with anything much more vulgar than that, but like I said, for the most part, I think the students do a pretty good job of remaining civil. After all, the student fan base is just as important, if not moreso, than any other segment and we don't want to make it seem like the "chairbacks" are eliteists. IMHO we don't need to make their lives difficult when they are just being kids - the old neighbors back on the east side near the campus do enough of that. ("Those darn kids that live across the street from me are playing their music to loud!" For crying out loud, it is 9:00 PM on a Friday night, I am gonna call the neighborhood association and the police." ) haha |
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Post by FLAMERimNOTone on Dec 10, 2004 10:27:24 GMT -6
i agree that the students are just trying to have a good time at the game. i think to tone it down is not very necessary. i think as long as nothing is being thrown onto the court and we are staying within our limitations that the "BS" calls are a ok with me. i do understand taht there are kids at these games, but come on i honestly think by the time i was 7 i had heard the phrase bull sh*t before and probably even used it without my parents hearing me say it! ;D there is no way that it will ever stop at the games and it would be rediculous if it did. when i am all drunk i dont want to have to be to catious of the words flying out of my mouth. i am usually soo pumped with booze and adrenaline that i could never force my self to say push it at a game. it was a nice gesture for the others in the crowd. but it will never fly at any university!
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Post by jvaldon on Dec 10, 2004 10:44:11 GMT -6
i am a student who has been know to string together long sentance of vulgarity directed tword opposing players, refs, opposing fans, and anyone else who would hear it, but at uic it was different than being in the student section at The Cell. in the student section you can pretty much say whatever as long as everyone isnt doing it in unison it just turns into white noise. at uic however i was droppin f-bombs like mad unil a father and his 2 young boys made it aware to me that i was among familys not just students. i took the time to clean my my language a bit, and i apoligized to him at half time. i did really feel bad, because if it was me i would have reacted the same, if not worse and been pissed. he said it was ok and he understood, but i still was embarrased about my behavior. now chants like bullsh*t are fine in my book, i remember going to a badger game and hearing the "eat sh*t, f*** you" thing that they do, i was only 7 and it was just an assumed part of going to a badger game. same with 'bullsh*t' at basketball games, its assumed. but other than that language should be watched at away games when students and families are mixed. Also bullsh*t shouldnt be used at all times, if you are doing the bullsh*t chant and you see no alum or non student section people doing it...its probably not justified. no one wants to make anyone not have fun. common sence should always rule. if you are doing somethign you wouldnt tell your mother/girlfriend/father/boyfriend about...and at my age i can swear and tell drinkin stories in front of my parents....then dont do it, or do it only occastionaly when the time is right. Just my 2 cents, but i will be watching my language when around families at Valpo, and drunkness isnt an excuse to be a total, complete jackass, it never has been, it never will be.
- BruceismyHomeboy (damn i wrote alot)
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Post by UWMKrazie on Dec 10, 2004 11:43:33 GMT -6
Well stated Homeboy. Being among our home student section and among a section at an away game is totally different. At home everything is drowned out and you're pretty much only within ears reach of other students. Away, a lot of times we're the loudest ones in the arena (which is a good thing!) and among families/alum as stated. Just gotta be aware of our surroundings because the F'bombs are bound to drop!
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