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Post by UWMKrazie on Dec 5, 2004 19:33:47 GMT -6
Oh yeah and I forgot a couple more things. We may think our band not being at every game is bad, but the UIC bad is absolutely terrible. Small, and if I were blind I never would've known they were there.
Also, the UIC student section shirts. My god were they lame. All they said is "I'm One" on the backs, wtf! I guarntee the idea for that shirt would be shot down in a heartbeat. Bruceismyhomeboy, maybe instead of the previous idea for a new shirt, just do "UIC FLAMERS- I'M NOT ONE!"
Lastly, quit wasting our time with the lame tradition ceremonies. Lighting of the flame is agonizing to say the least, especially when the torch goes out mid way through. Nonetheless, the flame is quickly extinguished to get all the props off the court. The strength of the metaphor goes with it. This also goes for the magical inflation of puff the magic dragon. I think the same skit appears at Disney on Ice. Not to mention the mascot does more wardrobe changes than J. Lo at the music awards.
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Post by fan22 on Dec 5, 2004 20:36:19 GMT -6
Every thing that has been posted so far has been my thoughts as well, so there is no need to say how great a game it was. On the topic of collins and Bruce, I really don't understand how Bruce can be villified while collins can look sympathetic. He broke the rules, very serious recruiting rules. How can they support and think its great that their head coach, the face of their program, shows not only poor sportsmanship by not shaking hands, but the fact that he is still carrying a grudge after all these years. As a coach, he is also a teacher and a role model. His actions demonstrate all the things a teacher should point out as being wrong. Collins has no class and is a terrible role model for his players, fans, and uic as a university. If I were the athletic director at uic, I would take collins into my office and tell him that his actions are deplorable and tell him to grow up and show good sportsmanship!!!
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Post by fan22 on Dec 5, 2004 20:39:00 GMT -6
Got so wrapped up in that I forgot what I wanted to post about the game. I wasnt at the game but I could definately hear the students on tv. That was awesome, and Sutton made a reference to the Bruce is my homeboy t-shirts!! I thought James had a great game, except for the free throw. At this time last year he would not have even been considered to see playing time. He has definetly improved and has been a significant contributor to the team. He has outplayed Ford and McCoy by far.
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Post by Big D on Dec 5, 2004 20:47:57 GMT -6
Oh yeah and I forgot a couple more things. We may think our band not being at every game is bad, but the UIC bad is absolutely terrible. Small, and if I were blind I never would've known they were there. Also, the UIC student section shirts. My god were they lame. All they said is "I'm One" on the backs, wtf! I guarntee the idea for that shirt would be shot down in a heartbeat. Bruceismyhomeboy, maybe instead of the previous idea for a new shirt, just do "UIC FLAMERS- I'M NOT ONE!" Lastly, quit wasting our time with the lame tradition ceremonies. Lighting of the flame is agonizing to say the least, especially when the torch goes out mid way through. Nonetheless, the flame is quickly extinguished to get all the props off the court. The strength of the metaphor goes with it. This also goes for the magical inflation of puff the magic dragon. I think the same skit appears at Disney on Ice. Not to mention the mascot does more wardrobe changes than J. Lo at the music awards. There was an article about the UIC band somewhere and I forget, but it seems that UIC breaks out the big band only for the biggest of games....it was in full force for GT and for Illinois the past couple times. It's an all-volunteer thing apparently, and they have a hard time getting people to come out. For the small games I've been to, I've heard them perfectly fine and I think they do a good job.... Yeah, go right ahead and make up those shirts...I've got a slogan for you...."Douchebag - I'm One".....you have your shirts using a slogan that was cool in the early 90's (homeboy) so you can't talk any trash.... Finally, I think the pregame ceremony does need some modifcation (i cringe when the school song comes on), but the lighting thing would be cool if they could it in a more "pump-the-crowd-up" type of way. And I happen to think that the Sparky skits are pretty well done.....what does your mascot do again?
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Don't shoot so much Tone.
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Post by fan on Dec 5, 2004 20:51:25 GMT -6
I think my thoughts at halftime still apply. We were winning and had played so god-awful along with having some questionable refereeing, that the only way we could go was up.
If we can win against UIC with our B- game we can beat almost anyone with an A game. The question is if we will ever see one?
After screaming countless times for the team to get it over to McCants, (who was forced into a couple shots just to get one off once in awhile) I can't help but hope he doesn't get Frederick's disease of being cold his Senior year. Shooters shoot and Ed needs more shots if we are going to compete against the big schools.
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Post by dunzz on Dec 5, 2004 20:53:22 GMT -6
Its more trouble some seeing him not hit the open 3, especially when he was taking the open shot and i can see the ball curve before it makes it to the basket. If i were bruce it would be 50 shots beyond the arch before each practice. jk
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Post by Big D on Dec 5, 2004 20:54:28 GMT -6
Every thing that has been posted so far has been my thoughts as well, so there is no need to say how great a game it was. On the topic of collins and Bruce, I really don't understand how Bruce can be villified while collins can look sympathetic. He broke the rules, very serious recruiting rules. How can they support and think its great that their head coach, the face of their program, shows not only poor sportsmanship by not shaking hands, but the fact that he is still carrying a grudge after all these years. As a coach, he is also a teacher and a role model. His actions demonstrate all the things a teacher should point out as being wrong. Collins has no class and is a terrible role model for his players, fans, and uic as a university. If I were the athletic director at uic, I would take collins into my office and tell him that his actions are deplorable and tell him to grow up and show good sportsmanship!!! This is never going to be resolved....UIC fans will take Collins' side and UWM fans will take Pearl's side. All that trash you're talking about an innocent Collins is garbage. Just don't let Pearl sit next to you while you're cheating on an exam because he'll rat you out. I don't see how you can say Collins is a terrible role model....can you provide an example please other than the fact that he won't shake hands with a guy who nearly drove him to counseling (according to an Illini book).
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Post by fan22 on Dec 5, 2004 20:54:30 GMT -6
Bad game, shooters get them. He's much more of an athlete than Fredrick was, so you cant even compare the two. McCants will be fine.
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Post by fan22 on Dec 5, 2004 20:58:09 GMT -6
For that UIC flamer, we just came into youre house and beat you. yeah, you did it to us last year, but that is in the past. Thus, since we beat you in your house, I believe that you should remove the "UWM's daddy" from under you're flamming logo you flamer. By the way, our mascot is the same as our name. UWM panthers. Why the hell is your mascot a dinosaur. I don't know how you can make a connection between fire and dinosaurs. Can a flamer please let me know? Any flamer out there? I want a flamer to tell me why you have a dinosaur.
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Post by Big D on Dec 5, 2004 21:02:36 GMT -6
For that UIC flamer, we just came into youre house and beat you. yeah, you did it to us last year, but that is in the past. Thus, since we beat you in your house, I believe that you should remove the "UWM's daddy" from under you're flamming logo you flamer. By the way, our mascot is the same as our name. UWM panthers. Why the hell is your mascot a dinosaur. I don't know how you can make a connection between fire and dinosaurs. Can a flamer please let me know? Any flamer out there? I want a flamer to tell me why you have a dinosaur. The "UWM's daddy" thing will stay under my logo, because it would be a waste of my time to remove it and then put it back in after we beat you in the HL tournament.... As for our mascot....it's a dragon you tool....you know, dragon's blow fire....maybe if you'd like to volunteer, we can set you on fire and let you run around the Pavilion screaming....other than that, how would you have a flame mascot. What does your mascot do during time-outs?
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Don't shoot so much Tone.
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Post by fan on Dec 5, 2004 21:06:43 GMT -6
I guess I don't see why it makes Bruce that much more of a bad guy if Collins went to counselling?
Doesn't that point more toward Collins being unstable or unable to control his emotions?
Oh and not comparing players, only cold shooting. It goes without saying that Ed is the superior player. Just hoping after the last 2 games he is able to score in the 20's, (Not counting the jackrabbits I guess)
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Post by Spike1057 on Dec 5, 2004 21:08:23 GMT -6
I guess since we are not going to live in the past then i should say who cares that you beat us yesterday since that is now in the past. What a dumb comment. Dragon yes he is a dragon. Maybe if you layed off that sweet Miller light you would have know that.
As far as McCants he will be fine, running around chasing Banks will do that to you, ask every other player who has guarded him this year.
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Post by Spike1057 on Dec 5, 2004 21:09:48 GMT -6
Either way both coaches need to grow up, but never will, in fact I see Bruce only spending two or three more years in the HL before he moves on so this will become a mute point anyhow
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Post by Big D on Dec 5, 2004 21:11:20 GMT -6
I guess I don't see why it makes Bruce that much more of a bad guy if Collins went to counselling? Doesn't that point more toward Collins being unstable or unable to control his emotions? If anyone cannot control his emotions, it's Pearl....you rarely, and I mean rarely, see Jimmy lose it. And, all I meant by the counseling thing was that he was majorly affected (in a bad way) by what Pearl did and so there is no reason for him to want to be shaking hands now....I'm not saying it's right, but I'm not going to say Jimmy's wrong either.....I think Pearl should just respect that and not make an attempt. As for your actual team, Jimmy always says complimentary things....it's just Pearl he has a beef with.......
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Post by fan22 on Dec 5, 2004 21:12:52 GMT -6
I think it's great that you flamers are getting so defensive of your precious "dragon." I did not know that you flamers had so much admiration for a dragon. And thank you for inviting me down to your sh*tty stadium so that I could be lit on fire. That was a nice gesture! I would rather be a UWM "tool" than a UIC "Flamer."
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