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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 13, 2024 17:29:28 GMT -6
I’m not too concerned about losing Bart Lundy this offseason. The only reason there was a real concern last year was that the Charlotte job opened up. Charlotte objectively had a much better season than Milwaukee this year; they’d seem to be fairly foolish to get rid of their interim coach. Charlotte took off the interim tag about a month ago. Smart move! |
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Mar 13, 2024 17:31:34 GMT -6
Bart Lundy meet his wife in Milwaukee from his time at Marquette. I truly believe he loves Milwaukee and his staff. I also believe he feels his staff can recruit the state. My concern is his frustration in attendance. The Green Bay game was free tickets to UWM staff by an unnamed donor. Also, Major Goolsby's gave out a free ticket with a purchase of a $4 beer. Lundy said to the fact, people won't buy tickets but they buy beer. Bart's wife's family is in Shorewood, if I recall. Quite honestly, he could've taken a lot of other coaching jobs closer to the Carolinas if he wanted to stay there. Moving to Milwaukee allowed his immediate family to be closer to other family, plus, MAYBE, he likes the challenge of building a program to a higher level. After all, he built Queens up to a D1 program. Plus, as I will reiterate, he's stayed at every head coaching job he's had for at least 5 seasons, and he said in an off-season interview with the Roar Report that he stays committed to a contract once he signs it. He said he joked to AB, "Good or bad, you're stuck with me." |
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 13, 2024 17:33:52 GMT -6
This isn't aimed at ANYONE, so please don't personal offense, but why do we seem to have so many fans that take a year or two (or 10) away? We NEED all of you guys to bloom and grow. This is intended to be a question and not an accusation. As someone who's gone to games for 34 continuous seasons, I'm dumbfounded by how often i hear this (3 times today). Please help me understand. There are some I don't see any longer in the stands but we're showing up in the Baldwin era. It seems some were sour from PBJ. Last two years have been fun! I knew this season was heading in the right track after the Chattanooga win on December 22nd. |
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Mar 13, 2024 17:37:09 GMT -6
I’m not too concerned about losing Bart Lundy this offseason. The only reason there was a real concern last year was that the Charlotte job opened up. Charlotte objectively had a much better season than Milwaukee this year; they’d seem to be fairly foolish to get rid of their interim coach. Charlotte took off the interim tag about a month ago. Smart move! That shows how much I’ve been paying attention. I knew they were near the top of the AAC (perhaps above FAU?, definitely ahead of Memphis), so I will concur that removing the interim tag was a good move and a no brainer. And it takes Charlotte off the table for the foreseeable future. |
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 13, 2024 17:38:07 GMT -6
Bart Lundy meet his wife in Milwaukee from his time at Marquette. I truly believe he loves Milwaukee and his staff. I also believe he feels his staff can recruit the state. My concern is his frustration in attendance. The Green Bay game was free tickets to UWM staff by an unnamed donor. Also, Major Goolsby's gave out a free ticket with a purchase of a $4 beer. Lundy said to the fact, people won't buy tickets but they buy beer. I bet we see an uptick in attendance next year, and if we keep winning it will keep going up. I remember in Jeters 2nd year, our 9 win year, I was still a student and going to most games. Early in the season attendance was still good (does someone have the numbers?) but as the season wore on, and it was clear we were really bad, people stopped coming. I would bet attendance has slowly March downward every season since then. BL now has to build it back up. The year ol Jeter showed he wasnt gonna be the guy. The expectation next season needs to be winning the league and the conference tournament. Anything else would be a major disappointment with the amount of players we should have coming back compared to the rest of the conference. |
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Mar 13, 2024 17:43:47 GMT -6
This isn't aimed at ANYONE, so please don't personal offense, but why do we seem to have so many fans that take a year or two (or 10) away? We NEED all of you guys to bloom and grow. This is intended to be a question and not an accusation. As someone who's gone to games for 34 continuous seasons, I'm dumbfounded by how often i hear this (3 times today). Please help me understand. There are some I don't see any longer in the stands but we're showing up in the Baldwin era. It seems some were sour from PBJ. Last two years have been fun! I knew this season was heading in the right track after the Chattanooga win on December 22nd. The two big years we lost fans were the Geiger move back to the K year and the year after the Rob Jeter debacle. I think there was also a decrease the year after PBJ, but given that the announced attendance of our home first round tournament game (at the UWMPA) was something like 800 that year, it’s clear those numbers were heavily skewed toward season ticket holders swept up in PBJ-mania who were then disillusioned by PBS-mania. |
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 13, 2024 17:53:35 GMT -6
There are some I don't see any longer in the stands but we're showing up in the Baldwin era. It seems some were sour from PBJ. Last two years have been fun! I knew this season was heading in the right track after the Chattanooga win on December 22nd. The two big years we lost fans were the Geiger move back to the K year and the year after the Rob Jeter debacle. I think there was also a decrease the year after PBJ, but given that the announced attendance of our home first round tournament game (at the UWMPA) was something like 800 that year, it’s clear those numbers were heavily skewed toward season ticket holders swept up in PBJ-mania who were then disillusioned by PBS-mania. Rob Jeter should have been canned years earlier lots of us stopped going because we were sick of watching Jeter be a crappy college coach. Its been proven out in his next job as well look at how WIU did this year after getting rid of him. ALSO, my high level sources tapped into the good college player base in SE Wisconsin have told me Jeter never recruited the area and alienated Milwaukee players and SE wisconsin players. Who wants to support a coach that won't support the city. |
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Post by TBone on Mar 13, 2024 18:20:15 GMT -6
Bart Lundy meet his wife in Milwaukee from his time at Marquette. I truly believe he loves Milwaukee and his staff. I also believe he feels his staff can recruit the state. My concern is his frustration in attendance. The Green Bay game was free tickets to UWM staff by an unnamed donor. Also, Major Goolsby's gave out a free ticket with a purchase of a $4 beer. Lundy said to the fact, people won't buy tickets but they buy beer. I bet we see an uptick in attendance next year, and if we keep winning it will keep going up. I remember in Jeters 2nd year, our 9 win year, I was still a student and going to most games. Early in the season attendance was still good (does someone have the numbers?) but as the season wore on, and it was clear we were really bad, people stopped coming. I would bet attendance has slowly March downward every season since then. BL now has to build it back up. Jeter's second year was coming off an NCAA tournament win the previous year and a sweet sixteen appearance the year prior to that. Two years before the sweet sixteen year, we lost on a missed layup at the buzzer by one of the program's all time greats. We were on a heckuva run at that point with four twenty-win seasons in a row, three tournament appearances in four years and a 3-3 NCAA tournament record over those appearances. We might see a slight uptick in attendance next year, but we've accomplished nothing in comparison to what happened which kept the attendance numbers up through Jeter's horrible second season. |
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Post by PantherU on Mar 13, 2024 18:40:16 GMT -6
We must work as a fanbase to grow our season ticket base. The price is fair. The team needs more support. I am all about trying to grow this program and its support (as I have for 25 years), but at the end of the day, athletics and the university in general (Mone, Braun, athletics staff) need to have the same desire and passion to grow and progress as an athletic department as much as the fans want to see athletics progress. It seems like at times that athletics does the bare minimum. Ticket sales, marketing and fundraising are all just a few of the many areas that need to improve. But year after year, those are some of the areas that haven't progressed. Combine these two. There's only so much we can do when we have full-time jobs. A lot of the diehards have families and kids and it's very difficult to find the balance. It's hard to add the work required on top of working 40-50 hours a week in a mentally stressful, demanding job. I know I have never been a "car guy" but my entire professional career has been built around cars, and I'd probably be a lot better at my job if I were that "car guy." I know how rough it is to commit to life and family and being a fan, adding in the work of getting people to join is severely limited for any of us - and there aren't many of us who are committed like the denizens of this forum. We need someone who lives, eats, breathes Panther Athletics inside the department. Does not have to be AD. Does not have to remove anyone from their job. But we need someone who will do the needed work 24/7/365 to once and for all KILL THE APATHY in this university towards its athletics program. Someone who can go to old fans and donors and bring them back into the fold. Someone who can get people not just through the door but excited to be at the games. Someone who can fire up students the moment they step on campus in the fall and never stop. Someone who has wild ideas and the drive to make them into reality. Someone who can walk into Chapman Hall and sell Mark Mone on the idea that this program is the best tool he's got to solve many of the problems the university has - lower application numbers, enrollment, student engagement, student retention, alumni and community involvement. Then, after that, can walk into anyone's office, anyone's classroom, anyone's kitchen and sell them on joining the cause. Make the position something of a hybrid between development and ticket sales. Joe has his work cut out for him running the ticket office, maybe the other person in there needs to be someone who is just doing the work of talking to fans and building the fan base. Amanda has so much on her plate, she can't be the "u-rah-rah" force and also run the entire program. Chris Roche's job is tough as it is, he can't be spread too thin and he's definitely not the type to be shouting in the cafeteria like Bruce Pearl. Coach Lundy is a great guy and he's a fantastic coach but he's not Pearl either, he's definitely more the 1-on-1 cool that Jeter was in person. And better yet if this work isn't done by the coach or his staff - yes they need to be involved in the work but they have primary roles that exist away from the job description of " Destroyer of Apathy." You want a guy like Pearl whose ONLY job is to put butts in seats and build up donations but really build up the university as a whole and bring everyone together. The university doesn't have a lot of money but they cannot afford NOT fill this theoretical position. The more time goes by and we're not capitalizing on the success of the team and the opening of the OHOW Center, the harder it's going to be to be ready when massive mountains of change come to college athletics. This job needs to be filled 10 years ago. Recognizing and rectifying that is the best way for us to move forward. Maybe the solution is to pay a lower base salary and have that person make a percentage of the ticket sales and donations they bring in, further incentivizing their need to succeed in the job. Of course, that person shouldn't be someone who needs incentivizing. It should be someone who already bleeds black and gold. THAT is what's required of this monumental task. I swear to god that person exists. There are a number of people I believe could do that job - several of them are on this message board. I believe everyone was born to do something, and there's someone who is meant to drive us upward by sheer force of will. |
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Post by FTA1982 on Mar 13, 2024 19:02:36 GMT -6
The guy that wrote the essay above literally just wrote the job requirement for himself. I've said this for a long time. Jimmy should have a full time job in student engagement and athletics at Milwaukee.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 13, 2024 19:32:31 GMT -6
I’m not too concerned about losing Bart Lundy this offseason. The only reason there was a real concern last year was that the Charlotte job opened up. Charlotte objectively had a much better season than Milwaukee this year; they’d seem to be fairly foolish to get rid of their interim coach. Charlotte took off the interim tag about a month ago. Smart move! Excellent! Now we only need to worry about 34 other mid/low-majors in the Mid-South. |
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 13, 2024 19:57:06 GMT -6
We must work as a fanbase to grow our season ticket base. The price is fair. The team needs more support. I am all about trying to grow this program and its support (as I have for 25 years), but at the end of the day, athletics and the university in general (Mone, Braun, athletics staff) need to have the same desire and passion to grow and progress as an athletic department as much as the fans want to see athletics progress. It seems like at times that athletics does the bare minimum. Ticket sales, marketing and fundraising are all just a few of the many areas that need to improve. But year after year, those are some of the areas that haven't progressed. Combine these two. There's only so much we can do when we have full-time jobs. A lot of the diehards have families and kids and it's very difficult to find the balance. It's hard to add the work required on top of working 40-50 hours a week in a mentally stressful, demanding job. I know I have never been a "car guy" but my entire professional career has been built around cars, and I'd probably be a lot better at my job if I were that "car guy." I know how rough it is to commit to life and family and being a fan, adding in the work of getting people to join is severely limited for any of us - and there aren't many of us who are committed like the denizens of this forum. We need someone who lives, eats, breathes Panther Athletics inside the department. Does not have to be AD. Does not have to remove anyone from their job. But we need someone who will do the needed work 24/7/365 to once and for all KILL THE APATHY in this university towards its athletics program. Someone who can go to old fans and donors and bring them back into the fold. Someone who can get people not just through the door but excited to be at the games. Someone who can fire up students the moment they step on campus in the fall and never stop. Someone who has wild ideas and the drive to make them into reality. Someone who can walk into Chapman Hall and sell Mark Mone on the idea that this program is the best tool he's got to solve many of the problems the university has - lower application numbers, enrollment, student engagement, student retention, alumni and community involvement. Then, after that, can walk into anyone's office, anyone's classroom, anyone's kitchen and sell them on joining the cause. Make the position something of a hybrid between development and ticket sales. Joe has his work cut out for him running the ticket office, maybe the other person in there needs to be someone who is just doing the work of talking to fans and building the fan base. Amanda has so much on her plate, she can't be the "u-rah-rah" force and also run the entire program. Chris Roche's job is tough as it is, he can't be spread too thin and he's definitely not the type to be shouting in the cafeteria like Bruce Pearl. Coach Lundy is a great guy and he's a fantastic coach but he's not Pearl either, he's definitely more the 1-on-1 cool that Jeter was in person. And better yet if this work isn't done by the coach or his staff - yes they need to be involved in the work but they have primary roles that exist away from the job description of " Destroyer of Apathy." You want a guy like Pearl whose ONLY job is to put butts in seats and build up donations but really build up the university as a whole and bring everyone together. The university doesn't have a lot of money but they cannot afford NOT fill this theoretical position. The more time goes by and we're not capitalizing on the success of the team and the opening of the OHOW Center, the harder it's going to be to be ready when massive mountains of change come to college athletics. This job needs to be filled 10 years ago. Recognizing and rectifying that is the best way for us to move forward. Maybe the solution is to pay a lower base salary and have that person make a percentage of the ticket sales and donations they bring in, further incentivizing their need to succeed in the job. Of course, that person shouldn't be someone who needs incentivizing. It should be someone who already bleeds black and gold. THAT is what's required of this monumental task. I swear to god that person exists. There are a number of people I believe could do that job - several of them are on this message board. I believe everyone was born to do something, and there's someone who is meant to drive us upward by sheer force of will. Yeah Jimmy that guy is you. I think you have the right chutzpah for that type of job. |
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Post by ghostofpbj on Mar 13, 2024 20:06:56 GMT -6
Combine these two. There's only so much we can do when we have full-time jobs. A lot of the diehards have families and kids and it's very difficult to find the balance. It's hard to add the work required on top of working 40-50 hours a week in a mentally stressful, demanding job. I know I have never been a "car guy" but my entire professional career has been built around cars, and I'd probably be a lot better at my job if I were that "car guy." I know how rough it is to commit to life and family and being a fan, adding in the work of getting people to join is severely limited for any of us - and there aren't many of us who are committed like the denizens of this forum. We need someone who lives, eats, breathes Panther Athletics inside the department. Does not have to be AD. Does not have to remove anyone from their job. But we need someone who will do the needed work 24/7/365 to once and for all KILL THE APATHY in this university towards its athletics program. Someone who can go to old fans and donors and bring them back into the fold. Someone who can get people not just through the door but excited to be at the games. Someone who can fire up students the moment they step on campus in the fall and never stop. Someone who has wild ideas and the drive to make them into reality. Someone who can walk into Chapman Hall and sell Mark Mone on the idea that this program is the best tool he's got to solve many of the problems the university has - lower application numbers, enrollment, student engagement, student retention, alumni and community involvement. Then, after that, can walk into anyone's office, anyone's classroom, anyone's kitchen and sell them on joining the cause. Make the position something of a hybrid between development and ticket sales. Joe has his work cut out for him running the ticket office, maybe the other person in there needs to be someone who is just doing the work of talking to fans and building the fan base. Amanda has so much on her plate, she can't be the "u-rah-rah" force and also run the entire program. Chris Roche's job is tough as it is, he can't be spread too thin and he's definitely not the type to be shouting in the cafeteria like Bruce Pearl. Coach Lundy is a great guy and he's a fantastic coach but he's not Pearl either, he's definitely more the 1-on-1 cool that Jeter was in person. And better yet if this work isn't done by the coach or his staff - yes they need to be involved in the work but they have primary roles that exist away from the job description of " Destroyer of Apathy." You want a guy like Pearl whose ONLY job is to put butts in seats and build up donations but really build up the university as a whole and bring everyone together. The university doesn't have a lot of money but they cannot afford NOT fill this theoretical position. The more time goes by and we're not capitalizing on the success of the team and the opening of the OHOW Center, the harder it's going to be to be ready when massive mountains of change come to college athletics. This job needs to be filled 10 years ago. Recognizing and rectifying that is the best way for us to move forward. Maybe the solution is to pay a lower base salary and have that person make a percentage of the ticket sales and donations they bring in, further incentivizing their need to succeed in the job. Of course, that person shouldn't be someone who needs incentivizing. It should be someone who already bleeds black and gold. THAT is what's required of this monumental task. I swear to god that person exists. There are a number of people I believe could do that job - several of them are on this message board. I believe everyone was born to do something, and there's someone who is meant to drive us upward by sheer force of will. Yeah Jimmy that guy is you. I think you have the right chutzpah for that type of job. There is no better fit. We need a Jimmy in the Athletic Department to take us to that next level. |
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 13, 2024 20:48:44 GMT -6
We must work as a fanbase to grow our season ticket base. The price is fair. The team needs more support. I am all about trying to grow this program and its support (as I have for 25 years), but at the end of the day, athletics and the university in general (Mone, Braun, athletics staff) need to have the same desire and passion to grow and progress as an athletic department as much as the fans want to see athletics progress. It seems like at times that athletics does the bare minimum. Ticket sales, marketing and fundraising are all just a few of the many areas that need to improve. But year after year, those are some of the areas that haven't progressed. Combine these two. There's only so much we can do when we have full-time jobs. A lot of the diehards have families and kids and it's very difficult to find the balance. It's hard to add the work required on top of working 40-50 hours a week in a mentally stressful, demanding job. I know I have never been a "car guy" but my entire professional career has been built around cars, and I'd probably be a lot better at my job if I were that "car guy." I know how rough it is to commit to life and family and being a fan, adding in the work of getting people to join is severely limited for any of us - and there aren't many of us who are committed like the denizens of this forum. We need someone who lives, eats, breathes Panther Athletics inside the department. Does not have to be AD. Does not have to remove anyone from their job. But we need someone who will do the needed work 24/7/365 to once and for all KILL THE APATHY in this university towards its athletics program. Someone who can go to old fans and donors and bring them back into the fold. Someone who can get people not just through the door but excited to be at the games. Someone who can fire up students the moment they step on campus in the fall and never stop. Someone who has wild ideas and the drive to make them into reality. Someone who can walk into Chapman Hall and sell Mark Mone on the idea that this program is the best tool he's got to solve many of the problems the university has - lower application numbers, enrollment, student engagement, student retention, alumni and community involvement. Then, after that, can walk into anyone's office, anyone's classroom, anyone's kitchen and sell them on joining the cause. Make the position something of a hybrid between development and ticket sales. Joe has his work cut out for him running the ticket office, maybe the other person in there needs to be someone who is just doing the work of talking to fans and building the fan base. Amanda has so much on her plate, she can't be the "u-rah-rah" force and also run the entire program. Chris Roche's job is tough as it is, he can't be spread too thin and he's definitely not the type to be shouting in the cafeteria like Bruce Pearl. Coach Lundy is a great guy and he's a fantastic coach but he's not Pearl either, he's definitely more the 1-on-1 cool that Jeter was in person. And better yet if this work isn't done by the coach or his staff - yes they need to be involved in the work but they have primary roles that exist away from the job description of " Destroyer of Apathy." You want a guy like Pearl whose ONLY job is to put butts in seats and build up donations but really build up the university as a whole and bring everyone together. The university doesn't have a lot of money but they cannot afford NOT fill this theoretical position. The more time goes by and we're not capitalizing on the success of the team and the opening of the OHOW Center, the harder it's going to be to be ready when massive mountains of change come to college athletics. This job needs to be filled 10 years ago. Recognizing and rectifying that is the best way for us to move forward. Maybe the solution is to pay a lower base salary and have that person make a percentage of the ticket sales and donations they bring in, further incentivizing their need to succeed in the job. Of course, that person shouldn't be someone who needs incentivizing. It should be someone who already bleeds black and gold. THAT is what's required of this monumental task. I swear to god that person exists. There are a number of people I believe could do that job - several of them are on this message board. I believe everyone was born to do something, and there's someone who is meant to drive us upward by sheer force of will. Ideally, that person would need to: * Be someone who not only comes up with ideas but actually implements them. * Be especially visible during the down times, not just the good ones. * Good at taking "no" for an answer again and again, and maintain a level head while remaining consistently diligent. * Show complete class, including amongst those who express opposing views (competitors included). * Surround him/herself with not just friends and those in agreement, but be open to others who express reasonable contrasting ideas. * Have experience in generating revenue and managing expenses. * Leverage established relationships with local and other business partners to solicit their involvement in the program. * Have the total respect of the chancellor, athletic director and other key internal partners. A lot of us on this message board and others have passion for the program. However, I am not aware of anyone who meets all of the referenced criteria. 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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 14, 2024 13:51:26 GMT -6
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