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Post by Hack on Dec 7, 2005 20:59:15 GMT -6
This job better be Stan Anderson's ... helluva coach, recruiter and you'll be hard pressed to find a nicer person.
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Post by uwmfutbol on Dec 7, 2005 21:17:40 GMT -6
Very true... last season college soccer news listed him as one of the top assistants in the country... he's also a recruiter and goalkeeper coach (hence our ricidulous talent between the pipes)
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Post by Hack on Dec 7, 2005 21:28:43 GMT -6
I think this may have been another reason why Louis left ... he knew Stan was ready to take over a program. Why not leave the cupboard full for him at UWM?
Plus, Louis probably wants another challenge in rebuilding a program. UWM has been head-and-shoulders above the rest of the Horizon League for many years now.
I was upset when I first found out this news as well, but now I'm seeing more to it. I don't this is a slight on UWM and a perceived "ceiling" it may have hit. Other programs from mid-major conferences have shown you can go deep in the NCAAs ... i.e. New Mexico and UC Santa Barbara ... UWM can get to this level very soon.
I just hope Louis doesn't think he's taking the Milwaukee Cup with him.
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Post by uwmfutbol on Dec 7, 2005 21:30:52 GMT -6
Man I can't wait for next season... fernstrum and bode anchoring the defense; francois, sperl, and weiler up top.
It's gonna be rowdy- hopefully this transition doesn't hurt the program.
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Post by PantherLou on Dec 8, 2005 9:34:03 GMT -6
From what I hear, the salary that Marquette offered was in the same ballpark as what we offered. The big difference was the fact that Marquette was also offering a full ride scholarship to his kids as well. 3 kids x 4 years x $20k+ a year...that's a lot of value to pass up. What bothers me most about this is the effect that this will have on the local perception of UWM. Another feather in the cap for those who look at us as the "small school" in Milwaukee.
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Post by BBFran on Dec 8, 2005 10:40:18 GMT -6
Two thoughts:
1) I have no idea who's out there, but I would at least look at the coach at Marquette High, who has created a dynasty there. Having said that, I understand there's an enormous gulf between running high school and college programs, as Gerry Faust demonstrated.
2) This is at least in part an experiment by Cords. Don't think for a moment that Rob Jeter isn't in the back of his mind as someone to follow closely before that inevitable moment when he has to replace Crean.
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Post by Hack on Dec 8, 2005 10:46:13 GMT -6
Two thoughts: 1) I have no idea who's out there, but I would at least look at the coach at Marquette High, who has created a dynasty there. Having said that, I understand there's an enormous gulf between running high school and college programs, as Gerry Faust demonstrated. UWM will need to look no further than Stan Anderson. Wouldn't be surprised to see this announced in the next couple of days. Here's UWM's release: uwmpanthers.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/120705aaa.htmlHaidet: "But, that success also makes your job a very attractive one and I am confident we will receive interest from a number of highly-qualified individuals who want to take this program to yet another level of success." Says UWM will begin a search for a new head coach immediately. IMHO, there is no need.
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Post by teddyp00 on Dec 8, 2005 11:33:51 GMT -6
After a day to mull over this I am still bitter about this. While Pearl leveing is a bit different different I still see this as us starting a trend of losing very good coaches to much worse programs (in the specific sport) when the money is close. This just reaks of coaches thinking there is only so high they can take the programs here. I hope I wrong but it is just starting to seem like that.
And if MU comes after Jeter in a few years if Crean gets fired or leaves....well I dont even what to think about that right now.
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Post by pnthr30 on Dec 8, 2005 11:38:06 GMT -6
Two thoughts: 1) I have no idea who's out there, but I would at least look at the coach at Marquette High, who has created a dynasty there. Having said that, I understand there's an enormous gulf between running high school and college programs, as Gerry Faust demonstrated. 2) This is at least in part an experiment by Cords. Don't think for a moment that Rob Jeter isn't in the back of his mind as someone to follow closely before that inevitable moment when he has to replace Crean. The coach at MUHS has, indeed, created a dynasty over there. However, I have heard that he hasn't gotten a college gig due to the fact (I personally don't know this as "fact") that he doesn't have a college degree (MU didn't even look at him as an option). I am in no way trying to bash the man, as he has done great things at MUHS, and a degree in no way makes a person...........rather, I am just passing along what I have heard.........can anyone verify? Take it for what its worth.
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Post by pnthr30 on Dec 8, 2005 11:44:47 GMT -6
While Pearl leveing is a bit different different I still see this as us starting a trend of losing very good coaches to much worse programs (in the specific sport) when the money is close. At the end of the day, the money that BP is making at TN isn't really "close" to what he would have made at UWM. Sure, UWM put together a great comp. package, but it still isn't on the same page as TN. Further, while it may appear that Louis B. isn't making much more than he would have at UWM, I have a hunch, the spread (with the "extras," as PantherLou eluded to) is a bit wider than you may think. Not to mention the fact that he has an opportunity to put his stamp (truly create a program from nearly ground up) in on of the best soccer conferences in the country. Personally, I wish him the best.
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Post by PantherLou on Dec 8, 2005 12:17:22 GMT -6
: The coach at MUHS has, indeed, created a dynasty over there. However, I have heard that he hasn't gotten a college gig due to the fact (I personally don't know this as "fact") that he doesn't have a college degree (MU didn't even look at him as an option). Over the years, I have been told by more than one person in the local soccer community that Speilmann (The aforementioned MUHS coach) has alienated a lot of people over the years due to his attitude. I think this is as big a reason as anything else.
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Post by teddyp00 on Dec 8, 2005 12:21:11 GMT -6
I missed seeing the post about the extras....you are right. I was shocked to see that he was only making 64k a year here. I know soccer is not a revenue driver like mens hoops but thats reason enough to go take a 26k pay raise and a move to a power conference. While I dont have the time (or desire) to follow or attend most other sports besides the mens hoops teams I just want to see all UWM sports to do well and it sucks seeing very good coaches leave especially when its a jump across town.
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Post by uwmfan04 on Dec 8, 2005 13:26:44 GMT -6
A few points to clarify:
MUHS' coach is Bob Spielman, who is the father of the Panther's sophomore midfielder #23 Troy Spielman. I don't know if he holds a degree though. He is a nice guy personally, but I don't know anything about him as a coach aside from his awesome record and dedication.
We actually have one more MUHS player than Marquette does (3-2).
IF UWM chooses to promote Stan Anderson (which they should definately consider VERY VERY strongly), then UWM should not see any ill effects from recruiting. Stan is the lead recruiter and has brought in a lot of the big names in recent years. Just look at Fernstrum, recruited by Stan, who was the top goal keeper in the nation this year--that would be like Joah Tucker leading the nation in scoring--and Fernstrum is only a FRESHMAN!
This team only looses 2 players this year, and 1 coach. This will be a tremendous team next year, and many people thought that this year would be a rebuilding year. Loosing to a team that is in the Final Four and could end up the national champions in Penalty Kicks is far from a rebuilding year. Just imagine how good we can be next year. Stan would make a great choice for the head coaching spot!!
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Post by uwmfutbol on Dec 8, 2005 14:43:54 GMT -6
One of the reason why players go to MUHS is because these guys basically play ODP and club together, so why not play high school together as well? Spielmann is a great coach, but I don't know about him as the UWM coach. I'd take Stan Anderson, but the JS has Bud Haidet quoted saying that the other assistant coach is pegged as a potential coach, not Anderson. This worries me, because this could mean that Anderson is following Bennett to Marquette.
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Post by blatzlight on Dec 8, 2005 18:09:58 GMT -6
From what I hear, the salary that Marquette offered was in the same ballpark as what we offered. The big difference was the fact that Marquette was also offering a full ride scholarship to his kids as well. 3 kids x 4 years x $20k+ a year...that's a lot of value to pass up. its not a scholarship, but rather a benefit of working at MU that you, your spouse and your kids get to go school (or any other Jesuit institution minus Georgetown) for free. This is for anyone from a dean to a coach to cleaing staff.
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