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Post by pnthr30 on Feb 11, 2004 9:21:08 GMT -6
Unfortunately, I don't think our RPI is going to go anywhere but up the rest of the year. The Manhattan game will help, but the rest of the conference games are going to hurt us no matter what happens. Here are the RPI's of the teams we have left.
Butler - 197 Youngstown St - 243 Loyola-Chicago - 217 Cleveland St - 294
Manhattan - 53
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Post by tupacrates03 on Feb 11, 2004 13:14:53 GMT -6
that really hurts. Thats why i would love to see us in C-usa.
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Post by pnthr97 on Feb 11, 2004 13:49:55 GMT -6
We'll never be in c-usa, nor should we.
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kaygee
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Post by kaygee on Feb 11, 2004 14:16:02 GMT -6
CUSA is going to be all FOOTBALL conference beginning in 2005! Last time I checked UWM hasn't had a varsity football team that runs through the athletic dept. in almost 30 years!
;D An interesting tidbit of info for history buffs.......I believe NFL referee Bill Carollo, who is from the Milwaukee area, was a quarterback on the last varsity football team for UWM back in the mid-1970s.
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Post by nohopspanther on Feb 11, 2004 14:33:24 GMT -6
Bill Carollo played at Brookfield Central my alma mater in the late Sixties. I don't know if he played at UWM until the program was killed off in ('74?) thanks to the worst NCAA rule ever passed, Title 9.
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Post by Hack on Feb 11, 2004 14:44:33 GMT -6
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Post by admin on Feb 11, 2004 14:55:21 GMT -6
UWM has a very successful club team that is continually making huge advances on bringing back D1 football to our campus. They are moving along quickly and are really pushing the subject on campus. It might not be that long until fall Saturday afternoons at uwm are associated again with the grid iron. UWMfootball is the coach and director of the growing program. I am sure he can fill us in with more information. www.milwaukeepantherfootball.com/I attend two games last year. They are a lot of fun to watch...check them out next in the fall! Later, UWMfreak
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Post by pnthr97 on Feb 11, 2004 15:07:41 GMT -6
Ummm, last time I checked, the NCAA did not pass Title 9. It's a federal law, passed by the U.S. Congress, that applies to the NCAA because NCAA schools receive federal aid.
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Post by nohopspanther on Feb 11, 2004 15:10:09 GMT -6
The rule was created by the NCAA and pushed through by them. Private schools do not receive financial aid yet title 9 still applys to them.
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Post by pnthr97 on Feb 11, 2004 15:46:36 GMT -6
Sorry Nohops, but you're wrong on this. Title IX is a law requiring gender equity in education. While private schools do not receive money directly from the federal government, their students do in financial aid packages (Stafford Loans, Perkins, etc.). Therefore, it is applied to private schools as well. Because of the educational aspect of the NCAA (STUDENT-ahtletes), the law has been applied to NCAA institutions, as well as NAIA and JUCO. It is NOT an NCAA rule. It is a federal law applied to the NCAA. "Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, 20 U.S.C. Sect. 1681 (20 United States Code section 1681) et seq. (Title IX), is a Federal statute that was created to prohibit sex discrimination in education programs that receive Federal financial assistance. Nearly every educational institution is a recipient of Federal funds and, thus, is required to comply with Title IX. The regulation implementing the Title IX statute is at 34 C.F.R. (34 Code of Federal Regulations) Part 106. " www1.ncaa.org/membership/ed_outreach/gender_equity/general_info/facts.html
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Post by uwmfootball on Feb 11, 2004 16:22:38 GMT -6
I love football talk on the board!
Carollo and Reinfeld played until the final season in 1974. Carollo still lives in Shorewood. Reinfeld is the only UWM player to make the NFL, playing for the Raiders and Oilers.
In the title IX thing, there must be equal opportunity in academics and athletics. President Bush has discussed the possibility of removing football from the title IX because there is no women's sport comparable to football. I dont think this would work, however, and it would create a lot of contoversey with the women's team.
I personally hope to get football added at UWM, along with women's field hockey and make cheerleading a varsity sport (many schools do this to break even.) We have a plan for a stadium at Riverside HS to be up in 2005 (around 5000 capacity) to be used by RIverside and UWM football, soccer, and womens field hockey (if this all goes through), and there are whispers that keep getting louder around the athletic program about football.
Right now though, we need everyone for Loyola on Thursday!
GO UWM FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL!
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Post by nohopspanther on Feb 11, 2004 17:52:17 GMT -6
It applys to sports, not academics. The rule is enforced using a ratio such as if the student body is 47% male 53% female then the number of student athletes on university sanctioned teams must equal those percentages. It has NOTHING to do with financial aid which students receive. It is based on Universities receiving federal aid. The NCAA was the backer and made the rule apply to all. Football, tennis and volleyball were all eliminated here at UWM instead of adding more women's programs in order to meet the ratio %'s. This is what title 9 has done. Instead of expanding opportunities for women's sports which all lose money they cut back on men's sports to align their budgets annd ratios. Men's B-Ball and F-Ball support all other sports financially at most schools. When football is losing money the entire sports program is in grave trouble and that's when major programs disappear. Marquette did away with Football, Baseball and Wrestling in order to come into compliance. Their wrestling team had survived until 2 years ago solely on private donations until the NCAA said that counted as university sanctioned and that the %'s didn't meet requirements so the program had to be shut down entirely.
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Post by VictorE on Feb 11, 2004 18:45:07 GMT -6
I found this article in the 25th anniversaty edition of the UWM Post dated October 13,1981.
by Lynn Kulakowski of the Post staff
The last UWM football team went out fighting- literally.
On Nov. 16,1974 UWM played UW-Whitewater and beat the Warhawks, 26-14. Within the first four minutes of the game, the Panthers' Pete Misov kicked a 24-yard field goal, and then UWM's Tom Graham blocked a Whitewater punt to set up a touchdown pass from Chris Petersen to Jimmy Simpson.
At the end of the fourth quarter, the Panthers were ahead 20-14. With 20 seconds left, Panther Coach Glenn Brady gave the team permission to call a pass instead of sitting on the ball and letting the time run out. Peterson connected on a pass to Simpson for the last Panther touchdown.
As the game ended, Whitewater Coach Forrest Perkins ran over to confront Brady because Perkins thought Brady was trying to run up the score. A father of a UWM player, who thought Perkins was going to punch Brady, rushed over and grabbed Perkins.
The Whitewater bench came over to help. Punches were thrown, but there were no serious injuries.
The Panthers ended their season with a record of 4-6. The team did not know that 1974 would be the last year of football at UWM.
Shortly after the season was over, Athletic Director Tom Rosandich announced that the men's budget had to be cut by $100,000 because of the need for increased financial support of women's athletics under Title IX.
Rosandich suggested dropping either football, basketball, all grant-in-aid scholarships for student athletes and recruiting, or moving basketball from Division I to Division II.
The UWM Athletic Board found the third proposal unacceptable, and directed Chancellor Werner Baum to decide between the other two within 10 days.
Baum did not make a decision and the proposal went back to the board. During the board's meeting in January 1975, several last-ditch efforts were made to save football.
Brady proposed that the board freeze his salary and those of his assistants. Jerry Stanzer, a UWM alumnus on the board, offered $50,000 to keep the program going.
"I am prepared today guarantee a check for $50,000 to save football. I personally guarantee that $50,000 and will do all I can in the community to raise another $50,000" Stanzer was quoted in the Post as saying.
Several people on the board felt that football had a better chance of surviving than basketball did. The board thought football would bring in mopre revenue and had a greater fan interest.
Football lost on a 7-6 vote. The decision then needed Baum's and the Faculty Senate's approval. On a vote of 22-5, football lost and Baum then approved the action taken by the Senate.
Football was immediately dropped and basketball remained as a Division I sport.
Brady resigned because of the decision on Feb. 28, 1975, four months before his contract expired.
Although the Panthers had a losing season, 22 school records were broken.
Henry Jones rushed for 884 yards and Mike Reinfeldt and Phil Meyer had eight interceptions apiece. There were 24 team interecptions that year. Reinfeldt now plays for the Houston Oilers of the National Football League.
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kaygee
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Post by kaygee on Feb 12, 2004 9:40:42 GMT -6
Nohops....there are three prongs to being in compliance with Title IX, what you describe is only one of the three and you are wrong, Title IX applies to opportunities related to education, which INCLUDES SPORTS, but also applies to many other opportunities that prohibit discrimination.
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kaygee
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Post by kaygee on Feb 12, 2004 9:44:02 GMT -6
Gender Equity / Title IX
"No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subject to discrimination under any educational program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance."
Title IX of the Educational Amendments of 1972 to the 1964 Civil Rights Act
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