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Post by PantherU on Aug 8, 2024 9:51:27 GMT -6
Someone was very angry about past point guard play. LOL!!! What point guard play? Zing |
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Aug 11, 2024 21:32:49 GMT -6
This hasn't been mentioned yet, but during the picnic, Bart expressed his own discontentment at the university's lack of effort in bringing more student interest to the program, which I think we all share. We know he and the team are doing their part, going to other Panther sporting events, and interacting with student fans and regular fans, but it boggles my mind that the university is just completely forsaking the potential student fan base, it seems.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Aug 12, 2024 8:05:44 GMT -6
This hasn't been mentioned yet, but during the picnic, Bart expressed his own discontentment at the university's lack of effort in bringing more student interest to the program, which I think we all share. We know he and the team are doing their part, going to other Panther sporting events, and interacting with student fans and regular fans, but it boggles my mind that the university is just completely forsaking the potential student fan base, it seems. Yes, that was me that ask the question to coach. I just think the leadership on top is not strong. Not saying it's easy because it's not, they just seem like they are giving up in bringing students to the game. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Aug 12, 2024 9:03:01 GMT -6
He also seems disenchanted with the scheduling process. I'd love to hear more about this.
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Post by PantherU on Aug 12, 2024 11:15:33 GMT -6
He also seems disenchanted with the scheduling process. I'd love to hear more about this. There is no program in the country that has a harder time scheduling than the mid-major who could finish as high as the top 50 or as low as 200. High-majors don't generally want you on their schedule because they don't want a game they could lose and then have you crap the bed in enough other games that you're a massive drag on their NET rating. The elite mid-majors don't do it for the same reasons, because if they all schedule each other multiple teams are likely to not be as good as advertised, and suddenly they all have to hope they win all their conference tournament games. Once you're seen as elite - see Butler circa 2008 - you start getting more of the invites from high-majors. Look at Butler's schedules pre-and-post summer 2007 to see the change. There's a reason Gonzaga has a bunch of great games every year. The way to fix scheduling is to fix the postseason. Scheduling will immediately get better if the NIT is killed and the NCAA Tournament is expanded. There are 32 teams in the NIT and 68 in the NIT, Going to 100 really should be the baseline of what they do. Better would be to go to 128 and give every regular season and tournament champion an automatic bid to the tournament. That fixes scheduling, because there's less incentive for high-majors and elite mid-majors to avoid games with teams they could theoretically lose to and then have those teams finish outside the top 75. Going to 128 would literally add ONE round to the NCAA Tournament, or rather flesh out the play-in round, and if playing it at neutral sites is too demanding then you could have the opening round be played at campus sites. The best we can do in the meantime is getting other strong mid-majors to be willing to play each other more often. |
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Aug 12, 2024 13:29:14 GMT -6
He also seems disenchanted with the scheduling process. I'd love to hear more about this. The best we can do in the meantime is getting other strong mid-majors to be willing to play each other more often. This is what the Bracket Busters was great for. |
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Post by Cactus Panther on Aug 12, 2024 14:15:27 GMT -6
He also seems disenchanted with the scheduling process. I'd love to hear more about this. The best we can do in the meantime is getting other strong mid-majors to be willing to play each other more often. Bingo! That is what I have been advocating for. Why not have an alliance of upper Midwest non-conference opponents for the purpose of scheduling non-conference games each year? They all grumble that non-conference games are difficult to schedule. If all the grumblers get together, problem solved! It should not take a third party like ESPN (Bracket Busters) to do it. At least one of the programs needs to take the lead in getting it going. Why not us? Scheduling could be based on expectations for the upcoming season (i.e. expected NET 75 vs expected NET 90 and expected NET 310 vs expected NET 345, etc). It could be done, but it seems no one wants to make the effort to get it done. Or, we can always take the easy route and take on more of the UW-Stouts and Cardinal Stritches of the world. Maybe that is good enough to warrant having a second concession stand open for those games. |
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Post by Pantherholic on Aug 13, 2024 8:14:13 GMT -6
This hasn't been mentioned yet, but during the picnic, Bart expressed his own discontentment at the university's lack of effort in bringing more student interest to the program, which I think we all share. We know he and the team are doing their part, going to other Panther sporting events, and interacting with student fans and regular fans, but it boggles my mind that the university is just completely forsaking the potential student fan base, it seems. You can thank Mone for this. He flat out didn’t care about athletics. We have to hope his replacement takes an active interest in the department. |
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Post by Cactus Panther on Aug 13, 2024 11:47:07 GMT -6
This hasn't been mentioned yet, but during the picnic, Bart expressed his own discontentment at the university's lack of effort in bringing more student interest to the program, which I think we all share. We know he and the team are doing their part, going to other Panther sporting events, and interacting with student fans and regular fans, but it boggles my mind that the university is just completely forsaking the potential student fan base, it seems. You can thank Mone for this. He flat out didn’t care about athletics. We have to hope his replacement takes an active interest in the department. How far along is cloning technology? Maybe we can clone Nancy Zimpher. |
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Post by TBone on Aug 13, 2024 12:03:13 GMT -6
Getting other strong mid-majors on the schedule is, in itself, next to impossible to predict because the "strong mid-major" landscape changes so frequently. Before NIL and Transfer Portal came to play, look at how difficult it was for a mid-major to find sustained success. It's now exponentially more difficult!
We're literally a "dream job" offer away from likely being relegated back to a mediocre mid-major, if not worse. Hearing of Coach Lundy's disappointment in the school's marketing of the games and the program doesn't make me feel any more comfortable about an offer coming along that he doesn't seriously consider - particularly if we see success this year.
And even if he actual does "plant his roots firmly" here, that's not to say that any of our better players on any given year, or players with promise for future years who don't get the playing time they think they deserve aren't leaving for "greener pastures" given NIL, the Transfer Portal and the lack of having to sit out a year upon transferring.
Set up a "bracket buster" of quality mid-major opponents, and in five years, there's a good chance that half or more are no longer "quality" mid-major opponents.
Jimmy's right in that adding more teams would seemingly fix the scheduling problem. But would it? Would the power schools or current highly-rated mid-major schools rather schedule more cupcakes for guaranteed wins at that point since their NET and other ratings wouldn't need to be as high in an expanded tournament? Would any mid major school that didn't win the conference tournament or the regular season still get invited or would the committee rather invite the teams that finished better than .333 in the Big Ten and SEC? (I'm guessing the latter) And if that's the case, even in the last two years, we still find ourselves outside of the tournament.
Let's be honest here. The system is not setup for for schools like us to succeed, and it's getting worse by the year.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Aug 13, 2024 12:13:41 GMT -6
Getting other strong mid-majors on the schedule is, in itself, next to impossible to predict because the "strong mid-major" landscape changes so frequently. Before NIL and Transfer Portal came to play, look at how difficult it was for a mid-major to find sustained success. It's now exponentially more difficult! We're literally a "dream job" offer away from likely being relegated back to a mediocre mid-major, if not worse. Hearing of Coach Lundy's disappointment in the school's marketing of the games and the program doesn't make me feel any more comfortable about an offer coming along that he doesn't seriously consider - particularly if we see success this year. And even if he actual does "plant his roots firmly" here, that's not to say that any of our better players on any given year, or players with promise for future years who don't get the playing time they think they deserve aren't leaving for "greener pastures" given NIL, the Transfer Portal and the lack of having to sit out a year upon transferring. Set up a "bracket buster" of quality mid-major opponents, and in five years, there's a good chance that half or more are no longer "quality" mid-major opponents. Jimmy's right in that adding more teams would seemingly fix the scheduling problem. But would it? Would the power schools or current highly-rated mid-major schools rather schedule more cupcakes for guaranteed wins at that point since their NET and other ratings wouldn't need to be as high in an expanded tournament? Would any mid major school that didn't win the conference tournament or the regular season still get invited or would the committee rather invite the teams that finished better than .333 in the Big Ten and SEC? (I'm guessing the latter) And if that's the case, even in the last two years, we still find ourselves outside of the tournament. Let's be honest here. The system is not setup for for schools like us to succeed, and it's getting worse by the year. You are right TBone. Forget trying to match up opponents of similar expectations within an upper midwest non-conference alliance. But I would still love to have an upper midwest non-conference alliance for scheduling games at an affordable cost. It would sure beat flying out to UC Davis or the expense of a closed door scrimmage in Minnesota against South Dakota State. It would also allow for visiting fans to travel.* |
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Post by buppie05 on Aug 13, 2024 14:22:08 GMT -6
Getting other strong mid-majors on the schedule is, in itself, next to impossible to predict because the "strong mid-major" landscape changes so frequently. Before NIL and Transfer Portal came to play, look at how difficult it was for a mid-major to find sustained success. It's now exponentially more difficult! We're literally a "dream job" offer away from likely being relegated back to a mediocre mid-major, if not worse. Hearing of Coach Lundy's disappointment in the school's marketing of the games and the program doesn't make me feel any more comfortable about an offer coming along that he doesn't seriously consider - particularly if we see success this year. And even if he actual does "plant his roots firmly" here, that's not to say that any of our better players on any given year, or players with promise for future years who don't get the playing time they think they deserve aren't leaving for "greener pastures" given NIL, the Transfer Portal and the lack of having to sit out a year upon transferring. Set up a "bracket buster" of quality mid-major opponents, and in five years, there's a good chance that half or more are no longer "quality" mid-major opponents. Jimmy's right in that adding more teams would seemingly fix the scheduling problem. But would it? Would the power schools or current highly-rated mid-major schools rather schedule more cupcakes for guaranteed wins at that point since their NET and other ratings wouldn't need to be as high in an expanded tournament? Would any mid major school that didn't win the conference tournament or the regular season still get invited or would the committee rather invite the teams that finished better than .333 in the Big Ten and SEC? (I'm guessing the latter) And if that's the case, even in the last two years, we still find ourselves outside of the tournament. Let's be honest here. The system is not setup for for schools like us to succeed, and it's getting worse by the year. You are right TBone. Forget trying to match up opponents of similar expectations within an upper midwest non-conference alliance. But I would still love to have an upper midwest non-conference alliance for scheduling games at an affordable cost. It would sure beat flying out to UC Davis or the expense of a closed door scrimmage in Minnesota against South Dakota State. It would also allow for visiting fans to travel. We should be scheduling at least 1 west coast game a year for all the Cali fans 😉. That was awesome last year traveling roughly an hour to see the Panthers. I got to see 3 games last year, and we won all 3. Just saying. |
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Post by Cactus Panther on Aug 13, 2024 16:07:07 GMT -6
You are right TBone. Forget trying to match up opponents of similar expectations within an upper midwest non-conference alliance. But I would still love to have an upper midwest non-conference alliance for scheduling games at an affordable cost. It would sure beat flying out to UC Davis or the expense of a closed door scrimmage in Minnesota against South Dakota State. It would also allow for visiting fans to travel. We should be scheduling at least 1 west coast game a year for all the Cali fans 😉. That was awesome last year traveling roughly an hour to see the Panthers. I got to see 3 games last year, and we won all 3. Just saying. I totally get it. I edited my last post with an asterisk. *Unless they schedule a road trip to GCU, ASU, UA and/or NAU.😎 |
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