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Post by steveisback on Jan 5, 2022 14:20:04 GMT -6
Then again, maybe he is ready for the NBA already especially on certain teams, oh yeah...there is no I in Team - uh huh,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 11:02:59 GMT -6
theathletic.com/3048313/2022/01/06/2022-nba-mock-draft-4-0-jabari-smith-jr-leaps-to-no-1-but-team-with-top-pick-might-matter-more-than-ever/?source=rss"9. Sacramento Kings Patrick Baldwin Jr. | 6-9 forward | 18 years old | Milwaukee Patrick Baldwin Jr. has had a great season so far. It’s worth contextualizing that the team around him is dreadful. They’re 3-9 against Division I opponents this season, and Baldwin has only played seven games. Around him, the guards turn the ball over constantly, they can’t get in and out of their sets against athletic, aggressive defenses, and the result is that Baldwin is often left to fend for himself as a creator on offense. That’s something he’s not particularly good at right now. He isn’t all that polished as a ballhandler, and most NBA teams see him more as something of a souped-up version of Phoenix Suns wing Cam Johnson: a terrific floor spacer who hits shots at a high level off the catch and has strong defensive instincts but doesn’t consistently create for himself. That kind of player is really valuable in a role, and Baldwin does project as a starter in that vein. But teams also have been disappointed with his effort level on defense and competitiveness, as he’s looked to check out a bit in games against Florida and Colorado this season. Even so, most evaluators I’ve talked with see him as a back-half-of-the-lottery pick right now, believing the effort level will be worked out in a more competitive setting than he’s currently in."
Dreadful indeed. 'Could be less dreadful if PBJ played more and the team wasn't expected to lift PBJ (kinda thought it was the other way around). Oh well, can't predict COVID and can't prevent injuries. CAN control public relations. I just hope this season can be salvaged in the HLT. Sunday will probably say a lot about if we even have a chance in that final opportunity. I want PBJ to succeed bad, but it is frustrating that he's not been a big part of the team yet or at least not for the last 4-5 games. As someone mentioned the other day, this team, esp. PBJ has all the fuel/motivation required to prove us all as wrong haters who prematuely called his freshman season at Milwaukee a shipwreck. But does he even care? That's the question. I think so. I hope so. Maybe he's back Sunday, scores 41 and we can have a very different conversation.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Jan 8, 2022 11:11:35 GMT -6
Credibility was lost in the first sentence "Patrick Baldwin Jr. has had a great season so far." Huh?
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Post by FTA1982 on Jan 8, 2022 12:19:29 GMT -6
The guy probably watched the Robert Morris game only.
He is right to a point that the guard play has been terrible. My biggest thing is how poorly his dad has coached him in the games he plays. It makes zero sense how he is used. The criticism of his effort from time to time is valid as well.
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Post by BBFran on Jan 8, 2022 15:00:32 GMT -6
I'm 99.9% certain that was simply a typo. The following sentences would make no sense if the first didn't say "has NOT had a great season so far." The "not" just got lost in the editing.
He's certainly spot on about the team.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Jan 9, 2022 8:23:37 GMT -6
I'm 99.9% certain that was simply a typo. The following sentences would make no sense if the first didn't say "has NOT had a great season so far." The "not" just got lost in the editing. He's certainly spot on about the team. You are probably correct. The Athletic must be having a labor shortage of proofreaders! The article is behind a paywall so I could only read the first few paragraphs. It explains how difficult it has been to evaluate players because of the effects of Covid. Apparently there are a lot of other questionable players projected to be chosen in the first round. This helps explain how a project and health risk like PBJ is still considered a lottery pick.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 9, 2022 10:16:24 GMT -6
One thing that I think we can ALL agree upon: this is a BAD situation all around.
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Post by BBFran on Jan 10, 2022 10:56:15 GMT -6
Per PBS in Rosiak's story, Jr. has a doctor's visit today to "see what's going on."
Bluntly, the best thing they could do is close the kid down for the season, take care of the injury, get him into rehab and conditioning and get him prepared for the draft. This failed experiment has done our program no good, has no chance of saving Senior's job,* and is likely to cause the kid's NBA and financial prospects serious harm if it continues.
* As a matter of fact, the only possible argument PBS would have to keep his job would be to take his roster without PBJ on a winning run through the remainder of league play to finish high in the standings, then win the HLT. He'll never have PBJ or a recruit like him again. If he doesn't show he can win without him this year, that will be 0-5.
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Post by steveisback on Jan 10, 2022 11:03:06 GMT -6
Agree with all of the above 100%
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Post by DunneDeal on Jan 11, 2022 15:12:35 GMT -6
Per PBS in Rosiak's story, Jr. has a doctor's visit today to "see what's going on." Bluntly, the best thing they could do is close the kid down for the season, take care of the injury, get him into rehab and conditioning and get him prepared for the draft. This failed experiment has done our program no good, has no chance of saving Senior's job,* and is likely to cause the kid's NBA and financial prospects serious harm if it continues. * As a matter of fact, the only possible argument PBS would have to keep his job would be to take his roster without PBJ on a winning run through the remainder of league play to finish high in the standings, then win the HLT. He'll never have PBJ or a recruit like him again. If he doesn't show he can win without him this year, that will be 0-5. I dont care if he ran us to the sweet 16 on some magical run of WTF moments. He has got to go. Otherwise, we reward him for some fluke then are stuck with him
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Post by steveisback on Jan 12, 2022 9:12:40 GMT -6
Another possible potential scenario to think about here. Patricks ankle injury last year was extremely serious. Now with what has been going on if I were an NBA team I would be very worried about drafting him and giving a huge contract. Maybe it would be best to shut him down for rest of year, totally work on getting him right and then he comes back for a sophomore year and lights it up which would result in a solid year under his belt and increase his earning potential. Based on current situation I would run if I were an NBA team with this two year track record. Would want to make sure he is right and has some solid playing time under his belt before making him a lottery pick. Of course, not guarantee he would play his sophomore year here and there is the whole thing with PBS contract.
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Post by FTA1982 on Jan 12, 2022 9:15:33 GMT -6
There is 0% chance he comes back to college to play anywhere. He will be a 1st rounder. A good comparison is Jalen Johnson. He quit on Duke last year and it barely affected his draft status even with his character issues. Go get paid.
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Post by steveisback on Jan 12, 2022 9:26:03 GMT -6
I know what you are saying but here we are talking potential serious medical issues with his ankle not just taking a year off just because....\
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Post by Petes on Jan 12, 2022 10:33:32 GMT -6
Another possible potential scenario to think about here. Patricks ankle injury last year was extremely serious. Now with what has been going on if I were an NBA team I would be very worried about drafting him and giving a huge contract. Maybe it would be best to shut him down for rest of year, totally work on getting him right and then he comes back for a sophomore year and lights it up which would result in a solid year under his belt and increase his earning potential. Based on current situation I would run if I were an NBA team with this two year track record. Would want to make sure he is right and has some solid playing time under his belt before making him a lottery pick. Of course, not guarantee he would play his sophomore year here and there is the whole thing with PBS contract. How would coming back for another year on a bad ankle make any sense?
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Post by steveisback on Jan 12, 2022 10:37:22 GMT -6
assumption would be coming back on a rehabbed not bad ankle and establishing some credibility that he can play and stay healthy doing it
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