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Post by milwsport on Dec 19, 2006 16:33:32 GMT -6
I am really disturbed by this thread. These are blanket allegations without any substance, evidence or even anything beyond general mud slinging.
Yet we are supposed to believe that there is "unethical" behavior going on because someone says there is.
We don't know who they refer to, which is unfair to everyone in the AD because they are all painted with the same brush. Yet we are supposed to believe that there is "unethical" behavior going on because someone says there is.
We don't know what someone(s) is being accussed of, so there is no possiblity of anyone defending them.
We don't know why someone (s) are dissing their own department or others in it, passed over for a promotion? got a budget cut that went to someone else? disagree with a policy?
We honestly don't know because no specifics are given here about who did what and whether or not it was wrong.
This nothing more than a cheap anonymous shot at people who can't defend themselves because they don't even know if they are the ones being attacked, let alone what they are being attacked for.
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Post by newbee on Dec 19, 2006 17:58:22 GMT -6
"For those of you who believe this thread is not appropriate for discussion, please feel free to disregard what has been stated here. For the rest, I think it appropriate to be aware of practices going on and become as fully informed as possible. What you choose to do with this information is entirely up to you."
If it is appropriate to be aware of the practices that are going on and we should become as fully informed as possible, than why are you being so vague...if it is up to us as to what we should do with the information than why are we not getting the information? Instead of once again playing games with "my sources tell me" why not just let us in on the secret...if there is anything to tell than I for one would like to be informed! If "your sources" tell you these things, may be "your sources" are part of the problem and not the solution!!
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Post by teddyp00 on Dec 19, 2006 20:51:27 GMT -6
I agree with the last two posts by newbee and milwsport 100%. If you want anyone to a) care, b) believe you and c) do anything about it you need to stop being so vague otherwise this appears to be a he said, she said until prove otherwise.
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Post by nohopspanther on Dec 20, 2006 0:16:37 GMT -6
The last three posts are off the mark as this is a discussion board. If everyone always gave up their sources and all of their information then guess what, the word would get cut off pretty quick. Man some of you guys really make me wonder if you read any other message boards of schools regularly who are NOT MU or UW.
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Post by milwsport on Dec 20, 2006 1:38:53 GMT -6
Yes this is a discussion board, but serious allegations are being made here that can't be discussed because there is not whit of details.
So what we are left with is discussing the propiety of making blanket charges with nothing behind them. One does not have to reveal sources to state plainly what kind of behavior is being discussed and who is or isn't allegedlly involved in it.
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Post by teddyp00 on Dec 20, 2006 8:45:54 GMT -6
For those of you who believe this thread is not appropriate for discussion, please feel free to disregard what has been stated here. For the rest, I think it appropriate to be aware of practices going on and become as fully informed as possible. What you choose to do with this information is entirely up to you.
When someone says that you should become as fully informed as possible that tells me the information is there for whomever wants it to get it. So if he feels we should be informed then why not inform us and others here on the board. Clearly this is where some of the bigger supporters of the program spend time.
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Post by newbee on Dec 20, 2006 8:48:23 GMT -6
I actually am a member of several other discussion boards that are not MU or UW and in all honesty if there were people being vague but at same time trying to bring down someone in the AD without substantiating it people on those boards would squash the talk or there wouldn't be people trying to create the controversy in the first place...but apparently it's one of the most important things to some on this discussion board.
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Post by pantherpanther on Dec 20, 2006 9:45:08 GMT -6
Like I said...there ARE no backroom deals...do I assert that the Department is doing things 100% ethically? Hell no...who does? But the picture that is being painted by some is crap.
Call it out...name some names...otherwise...how in the hell is this helping anything?
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Post by famouspnthrfan on Dec 20, 2006 10:03:09 GMT -6
can't we just lock this thread, i for one am sick of reading it, and I think most everyone else is too...or are the administrators nowhere to be found?
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Post by uwmfan on Dec 20, 2006 10:56:32 GMT -6
...call me deep throat. The rest of you can be Woodward and Bernstein.
What some of you fail to consider is perhaps there are very specific and good reasons why one remains vague....
can anyone think outside of their own box and consider reasons why someone may not name names? This is a test....let's see how y'all do and what you can come up with....
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Post by uwmeasye on Dec 20, 2006 11:59:03 GMT -6
the thread just need to be locked, this discussion has gone nowhere
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