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Post by skrapheap on Apr 11, 2016 13:08:28 GMT -6
This message board is for a basketball program that represents a university with an enrollment of over 28,000 students and 160,000 alumni. Naturally you will not know every person who posts on this message board. Especially with the new era in Panthers basketball with LaVall Jordan as coach, expect the fan base to grow and for more people to join message boards about the Milwaukee Panthers basketball program. If you're pretending to be one of these "new era" Panther fans, starting your posting career by slanging a long-time member of this board isn't wise. It marks you not as someone new, but as someone with an old ax to grind. Plenty of other people on this board have disagreed with BBRan over the years, and have expressed their disagreements in quite pointed language. None of them have created a new user name purely in order to express those disagreements. But you did. It's not anonymity that i object to (and even if i did object, i'm not the one who makes the rules for the board). It's pretending to be an anonyomous new user while obviously having an ax to grind with a long time user of this board. Unless you expect the rest of the board to believe that you have done what no other new member of this board has done, and read all the messages on all the boards before deciding to create a new user name to take shots at one person. i'm not sure i've ever met BBFran in real life. i don't agree with everything he has ever posted on his board. i don't expect anyone else to agree with him. But when people go so far as creating new users names for no other purpose than taking shots at him, i wonder why. What have they got to hide? Have they already discredited themselves under other user names, so that creating a new name is their sole hope of being taken seriously? |
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Post by buppie05 on Apr 11, 2016 14:05:52 GMT -6
Yes! my issue isn't bashing BBFran, I've done that myself on a few occasions. The issue is, that this message board is no longer filled with casual, anonymous Panther fans. Those seem to be less and less prevalent the more the Freak Board continues to devolve. Rather, this has been turned into a den of keyboard warriors in support of an AD, with a couple of us actual fans still remaining. Why this has devolved into a PR campaign, instead of a message board for Panther athletics, I'll never know. Maybe "Pendleton" and "b.SMooth", or the ghost admin, who acted sophomoric in shutting this board down, can shed some light on that.
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Post by buppie05 on Apr 11, 2016 14:21:41 GMT -6
And for people dismissing Fran, Nicholas, Gruber and the other donors who have either walked, or are threatening to walk away, are you going to cut a check to Panther Athletics? We needed all of the money we could get before this whole fiasco began.
I'm all for firing coach Jeter and coming up with the money to pay him. I originated the "Fire Rob Jeter...NOW" thread back in 2011, which at the time would have cost 2 million dollars to buy him out(look it up), but I would have liked it done with some competence. Coaches, Players, AD's, and the like come and go. Donors and boosters like the ones I mentioned above can contribute to a teams success for literally decades and decades.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Apr 11, 2016 14:27:09 GMT -6
It's not dismissing fact with some, but not worried about what you can't control. That's their choice. Those folks and the school can deal with their business on their own terms.
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Post by pendleton on Apr 11, 2016 15:18:40 GMT -6
Wow, I merely stated obvious observations from reading posts on this board.
If BBFran or his enforcer (skrapheap) doesn't want BBFran to be called a "know it all" or an elitist, I would advise to BBFran to not act like it on this message board.
If BBFran wants to stop being a fan of the basketball team, that's his decision. I for one will not miss his posts on this board.
Skrapheap, I'm not sure why you're so invested in this thread (it has absolutely nothing to do with you). If BBFran wants to stop his fandom of the program, it'll be okay, the sun will rise tomorrow.
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Post by skrapheap on Apr 11, 2016 15:31:37 GMT -6
My interest in this thread is clear and obvious, though you pretend otherwise.
i'm not here to fight BBFran's battles. He can and will do that as he sees fit, when he sees fit. i suspect he finds your behavior to be predictable, if not amusing. He may even have a good guess as to who is hiding behind the "Pendleton" and "BSmooth" user names.
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Post by pendleton on Apr 11, 2016 15:42:24 GMT -6
My interest in this thread is clear and obvious, though you pretend otherwise. i'm not here to fight BBFran's battles. He can and will do that as he sees fit, when he sees fit. i suspect he finds your behavior to be predictable, if not amusing. He may even have a good guess as to who is hiding behind the "Pendleton" and "BSmooth" user names. You're not here to fight BBFran's battles? This is a joke, right?
What I found amusing was that BBFran felt the need to create this thread and write a diatribe and proclaim how here's not going to support and be a fan of the program anymore.
Plus the fact that he's an obnoxious "know it all" it adds to the amusement. |
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Post by buppie05 on Apr 11, 2016 16:07:18 GMT -6
It's not dismissing fact with some, but not worried about what you can't control. That's their choice. Those folks and the school can deal with their business on their own terms. I get this point, and it makes sense. However, a lot of the issues surrounding the mass departure of donor money, could have been controlled and prevented by people at UWM. I agree, nothing we can do about that now, lets all move on. However, we have no one at UWM admitting fault, or at a minimum admitting mistakes in how things were handled, which would go a long way in helping everyone move on, and possible getting the donors back. On top of it all, it seems there is a large scale PR campaign going on to defend our AD, which has very much leaked onto this message board. I, like many others, scoffed at the ghost admin's idea, that this board is a direct representation of the university. Now that I am seeing some people either affiliated with the university, or affiliated with university staff, on this message board further alienating donors and the fan base, I can see the ghost admins point. |
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Post by PantherU on Apr 12, 2016 9:03:50 GMT -6
Wait, I thought this was the board you wanted nothing to do with? The eunech board I believe you and your friends called it. So why are you back to complain more? BBFran was not going to leave this message board without having the last word and giving his two cents. BBFran has been one of the more divisive posters that I've come across on this message board. This is a self righteous poster on if he was challenged or disagreed with he would write passive aggressive insults and put downs against posters who had differing viewpoints than him. Considering the entirety of your time on this message board is two days, I'm not surprised that BBFran is one of the more divisive posters you've come across. |
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Post by PantherU on Apr 12, 2016 9:07:10 GMT -6
I have an email in to Chancellor Mone to demand the immediate firing of Amanda Braun as athletic director to ensure BBFran’s continued support of the men’s basketball program. Without BBFran’s support the program is surely doomed. It’ll only be a matter of time that the program will reclassify to Division 3 and will join the WIAC. I for one will miss BBFran’s spot on basketball acumen and his open-mindedness and objectivity on this message board. I’m deeply concerned about the future of this message board without BBFran’s pearls of wisdom and positive outlook.  Both you and B. Smooth have the same unique thing come up - when someone quotes your posts, there's a nice loooooooong space at the end of it before the end [ / quote ] tag. You're both signed up two days ago. Would you mind just consolidating into one screen name? Take it from someone who once spoke from two different screen names on this message board, eventually it blows up in your face. Thankfully for me I was a 19-year old dumb kid who used that learning experience to grow up. What's your excuse? |
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Post by PantherU on Apr 12, 2016 9:16:46 GMT -6
Right? This message board continues to devolve... I don't understand this argument (for the record, I know you weren't attacking me here since my first name is actually in my title and I have previously posted parties at my college house on this board) but isn't this the whole idea of a message board? Is everyone supposed to introduce themselves and give there name, address and blood type to be taken seriously? To the original topic, you will see I never call out anyone else on this board, even though often times I disagree. Hell, I never really post even though I have been around for over 10 years. But Fran decides that he can get condescending to anyone who doesn't agree with his narrow view of the world, and that frankly is uncalled for. He can give 1 billion dollars to the program, still don't care to hear him talk as if what he spews is gospel. Nick, you've earned every right to have every belief you have about this program and the fans in it. At times we disagree, but I would not be alone in saying that I respect you to death and will never question your commitment to the university or the program. No one is saying that we all have to put out all our information to point where we may consider purchasing the services of LifeLock. But it's plainly obvious that one person or a few people have infiltrated this board in an attempt to shore up support for one side of the argument and cut into everyone who disagrees with them - and they have done so while changing into multiple screen names to give the appearance of there being widespread support for Braun and her policies and actions that have hurt the program immensely. It wasn't all that long ago that every time Tom Hecker showed up with a different screen name, everyone would recognize who it was and chastise him accordingly. This isn't new. We know it's not Hecker now because the Pendleton/Dakdelsur/B Smooth/etc person/people have a very different viewpoint than Heck. So if someone is here to fight the athletic director's battles (I don't care if they work for the university or not), we're supposed to just let them do so without calling them out? |
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Post by pantherproud on Apr 12, 2016 10:48:45 GMT -6
Let's all agree to disagree and move on. I will say some of us view supporting the program as a separate thing than supporting the AD. That being said - people calling for her (or Mone) to be fired are many of the same that called for patience with Jeter, even after 11 years. Let's not forget he was 9-22 and 14-16 his 2nd and 3rd years, so for all those that loved him, he was looking like a complete failure by his third year as well. Circumstances change, people learn from mistakes and adjust - i'm not saying I agree with a lot of what has gone on, but I think its time to move on and look to the future. ON a better note, support clearly isn't flying out the door as many of the doomsayers suggest... www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2016/04/12/uwm-basketball-not-seeing-a-post-jeter-sponsor.html |
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Post by pendleton on Apr 12, 2016 12:01:39 GMT -6
I’m not surprised that PantherU had to give his two cents and act like the chairman of this message board.
I frankly didn’t read his posts in this thread as I wasn’t interested in reading his hyperbole.
PantherU, thanks for reading my posts and taking the time to respond to them!
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Post by PantherU on Apr 12, 2016 12:42:36 GMT -6
I’m not surprised that PantherU had to give his two cents and to act like the chairmen of this message board. I frankly didn’t read his posts in this thread as I wasn’t interested in reading his hyperbole. PantherU, thanks for reading my posts and taking the time to respond to them! *chairman Keep hiding behind your screen names, buddy. Without years (or indeed, several days) of time put on this board, your word carries a lot of weight here. Of course your time on the board wouldn't make much of a difference if we knew who you were or your status in the community, but you're content being an anonymous neophyte lobbing grenades - or sparklers, rather - from the safety of being unknown. Keep trying, internet tough guy  |
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Post by PantherU on Apr 12, 2016 13:11:02 GMT -6
Let's all agree to disagree and move on. That being said - people calling for her (or Mone) to be fired are many of the same that called for patience with Jeter, even after 11 years. Let's not forget he was 9-22 and 14-16 his 2nd and 3rd years, so for all those that loved him, he was looking like a complete failure by his third year as well. Circumstances change, people learn from mistakes and adjust - i'm not saying I agree with a lot of what has gone on, but I think its time to move on and look to the future. ON a better note, support clearly isn't flying out the door as many of the doomsayers suggest... www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2016/04/12/uwm-basketball-not-seeing-a-post-jeter-sponsor.htmlWhat I've learned from this article is to not count on someone who tells you one thing, and says they're going to join you out on a limb, until they're sitting next to you on that limb. |
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