Scholarships

[amusedspectator]

With only 2 of the 5 seniors graduating this year. How does that effect the scholarships and program in the NCAa?

[PantherU]

It only affects the APR if they don't graduate within 5 years of getting to the school. They do that so junior college players who may have not taken classes that transfer have every opportunity. If they didn't, juco players would lean towards schools that accept most or all of their credits transferred, which tend to be colleges that have lower standards. It would be unfair to schools with high academic standards.

As for our scholarships, it doesn't affect them at all. Not unless they don't graduate within five years. I know there are a few players who exhausted eligibility who have yet to get their diploma - Jeter's staff had to chase one of the Sweet 16 players around campus for two years after his final season to get him to graduate - and if they don't have it done within the five-year period, it negatively affects APR. An exception is if a player becomes a professional athlete - if Anthony Hill hadn't graduated, he and the team shouldn't be punished because he's making a bunch of money overseas. But he did graduate, so that's a poor example. Also, if Ant is reading this, I want to publicly thank him for getting that study group together in Psychology and leading it - I wouldn't have gotten an A without it.

APR, like any NCAA statistic, is flawed. If you fall below 925, they start watching you to make sure you've got your ducks in a row. The part that bothers me is that when a player leaves a program, he still counts on your APR if he doesn't go to another school. So, take a player that left our team before exhausting eligibility and didn't play elsewhere, and his lack of a degree adversely affects us.

You have to get a considerable amount of players - more than 50% per class over several years - to not graduate within 5 years of their first day of classes for you to see the NCAA start really hammering a program with lost scholarships, etc. I should mention that if a player gets his degree after the 5-year period, his bad score comes off the books.

For an up-to-date scholarship table for Milwaukee, go here:

www.brewcityball.com/forums/showthread.php?4307-Scholarship-Table

[amusedspectator]

Apr 30, 2013 11:16:31 GMT -6 PantherU said:

It only affects the APR if they don't graduate within 5 years of getting to the school. They do that so junior college players who may have not taken classes that transfer have every opportunity. If they didn't, juco players would lean towards schools that accept most or all of their credits transferred, which tend to be colleges that have lower standards. It would be unfair to schools with high academic standards.

As for our scholarships, it doesn't affect them at all. Not unless they don't graduate within five years. I know there are a few players who exhausted eligibility who have yet to get their diploma - Jeter's staff had to chase one of the Sweet 16 players around campus for two years after his final season to get him to graduate - and if they don't have it done within the five-year period, it negatively affects APR. An exception is if a player becomes a professional athlete - if Anthony Hill hadn't graduated, he and the team shouldn't be punished because he's making a bunch of money overseas. But he did graduate, so that's a poor example. Also, if Ant is reading this, I want to publicly thank him for getting that study group together in Psychology and leading it - I wouldn't have gotten an A without it.

APR, like any NCAA statistic, is flawed. If you fall below 925, they start watching you to make sure you've got your ducks in a row. The part that bothers me is that when a player leaves a program, he still counts on your APR if he doesn't go to another school. So, take a player that left our team before exhausting eligibility and didn't play elsewhere, and his lack of a degree adversely affects us.

You have to get a considerable amount of players - more than 50% per class over several years - to not graduate within 5 years of their first day of classes for you to see the NCAA start really hammering a program with lost scholarships, etc. I should mention that if a player gets his degree after the 5-year period, his bad score comes off the books.

For an up-to-date scholarship table for Milwaukee, go here:

www.brewcityball.com/forums/showthread.php?4307-Scholarship-Table

Haggerty graduated in fall. The other 4 seniors have left school without graduating.

[amusedspectator]

Apr 30, 2013 11:16:31 GMT -6 PantherU said:

It only affects the APR if they don't graduate within 5 years of getting to the school. They do that so junior college players who may have not taken classes that transfer have every opportunity. If they didn't, juco players would lean towards schools that accept most or all of their credits transferred, which tend to be colleges that have lower standards. It would be unfair to schools with high academic standards.

As for our scholarships, it doesn't affect them at all. Not unless they don't graduate within five years. I know there are a few players who exhausted eligibility who have yet to get their diploma - Jeter's staff had to chase one of the Sweet 16 players around campus for two years after his final season to get him to graduate - and if they don't have it done within the five-year period, it negatively affects APR. An exception is if a player becomes a professional athlete - if Anthony Hill hadn't graduated, he and the team shouldn't be punished because he's making a bunch of money overseas. But he did graduate, so that's a poor example. Also, if Ant is reading this, I want to publicly thank him for getting that study group together in Psychology and leading it - I wouldn't have gotten an A without it.

APR, like any NCAA statistic, is flawed. If you fall below 925, they start watching you to make sure you've got your ducks in a row. The part that bothers me is that when a player leaves a program, he still counts on your APR if he doesn't go to another school. So, take a player that left our team before exhausting eligibility and didn't play elsewhere, and his lack of a degree adversely affects us.

You have to get a considerable amount of players - more than 50% per class over several years - to not graduate within 5 years of their first day of classes for you to see the NCAA start really hammering a program with lost scholarships, etc. I should mention that if a player gets his degree after the 5-year period, his bad score comes off the books.

For an up-to-date scholarship table for Milwaukee, go here:

www.brewcityball.com/forums/showthread.php?4307-Scholarship-Table

Anthony has not graduated yet. He opted for his pro career overseas.