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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 15:39:28 GMT -6
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Post by Hack on Feb 1, 2013 15:45:57 GMT -6
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Post by gman2 on Feb 2, 2013 1:02:14 GMT -6
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 2, 2013 6:38:17 GMT -6
“I know a lot of people in the community who have supported UWM athletics in the past,” Mueller told me. “The people are still out there. They need to see a real plan. They need to believe we’re serious about it this time. I think Mike Lovell is the right chancellor to drive that.”
BINGO!!!!
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Post by uwm97 on Feb 2, 2013 8:05:07 GMT -6
Rob Jeter's salary was larger than game ticket revenue for the entire season - by nearly a third.
That's a good place to start.
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Post by PantherLou on Feb 2, 2013 8:24:24 GMT -6
Rob Jeter's salary was larger than game ticket revenue for the entire season - by nearly a third. That's a good place to start. This. Seriously, did I miss UWM shutting down its business school? Does no one understand the concept of revenue vs expenses? |
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Post by panther9193 on Feb 2, 2013 8:38:36 GMT -6
Rob Jeter's salary was larger than game ticket revenue for the entire season - by nearly a third. That's a good place to start. This. Seriously, did I miss UWM shutting down its business school? Does no one understand the concept of revenue vs expenses? +1 ...and then to make things worse financially, we continue to extend his contract! |
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Post by Pantherholic on Feb 2, 2013 8:50:39 GMT -6
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Post by uwm97 on Feb 2, 2013 9:57:27 GMT -6
A case study in why it's so important to maintain success - crappy teams lead to lower attendance and dead coaching money, a financial double-whammy. Throw in the basketball team not nearly what it was under Pearl, and Tennessee is in a lot of pain in the near-term.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 2, 2013 10:40:11 GMT -6
Instead of the Panthers playing a total of 15 to 16 home games, drop down to about 13 games and get some "payday" games on the road.
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Post by gman2 on Feb 2, 2013 11:13:33 GMT -6
A few years ago there was story about a lower level D1 team that for at least one season played every non-conference game on the road for the sole purposes of generating revenue for the program. Anyone remember who that was? This program may have to seriously consider doing the same for a year or two.
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Post by mcdadenets50 on Feb 2, 2013 11:19:13 GMT -6
A few years ago there was story about a lower level D1 team that for at least one season played every non-conference game on the road for the sole purposes of generating revenue for the program. Anyone remember who that was? This program may have to seriously consider doing the same for a year or two. Mississippi Valley State www.athleticbusiness.com/articles/article.aspx?articleid=3656&zoneid=8 |
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Post by panther9193 on Feb 2, 2013 13:13:17 GMT -6
A very concerning article, but not unexpected. Although I can understand the financial savings as a result of moving to a high school gym, if any part of the decision had to do with getting more students to games, it was a poor one. I think it can also be considered a failure if the best we got was a 200 student increase in attendance for a school that has about 25,000 students. Yes, I know the team is bad but only a 200 student increase when you're on campus and next door to the dorms is pathetic and proves the location of the games does not have anything to do with student attendance (or lack thereof). I'd also like to know if UWM actually tried to negotiate a new lease with the Cell. With the lack of scheduled events at any of their facilities, the Wisconsin Center District is hardly in a position of strength when negotiating leases these days. Did we try to negotiate a more favorable lease with them before deciding to move? This department needs to go in an entirely new direction. Get Geiger out a soon as possible and hire a new athletic director with some private sector experience (i.e. a Pat Richter type - www.dhrinternational.com/consultants/consultantsviewbio.aspx?consultantid=409) that understands what it takes to get things done. Someone who develops a vision and plan, effectively markets that plan and is held accountable for results. I agree with one of Belling's comments that UWM should start promoting itself as a community team, not just a school team. Marketing and promoting the team this way has a much better chance of increasing the fan base rather than just promoting the team to students. The university itself also needs to decide if it's going to get behind athletics which is something they have not shown in the last few years. In the end, we need to put a competitive team on the floor to draw interest. That may require the need to spend money to ultimately make money. Nobody is going to want to donate to a department that has no plan and no accountability. |
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Post by kingsteve on Feb 4, 2013 9:25:18 GMT -6
After reviewing the financial information in the Milwaukee Business Journal I think this underscores something fundamentally important. We need a vision and a plan and the move back to the KC was yet another example of short-sighted thinking, knee jerk reaction. The small amount of money "lost" at the cell pales in comparison to other factors including Jeter's salary. In essence, the program is headed in a downward spiral because Jeter's salary among other things make it unaffordable to continue to play at the Cell?? Give me a break....this is a classic example of penny wise/dollar foolish, tail wagging the dog or throwing the baby out with the bathwater. So typical of no long term serious though exercised as it relates to athletics.
Geiger comes in and after being here only a very short while his arrogance trumps the need to understand the historical perspective here. There was no trial balloon, no discussion or hint , no surveying the season ticket holders or alumni but a quick May or June suprise announcement. He and Lovell really missed the mark on the so called "philosophical" reasons for coming back to KC. They apparently do not understand that the majority of the huge alumni base here is not living on the East Side but spread well across metro area and five county region. I am proud of my alma mater but the KC is not worthy of a D 1 program. Yes, 10 years ago we recruited well in KC but that was a different time. Things have changed in sports, expectations are higher and it is a different time. the point is you can not be viable by going backwards and this is what the looks like. I do feel sorry for Jeter in one respect. I think the KC and recruiting are going to be negatively linked now in the present and future and all this is doing is making things worse holistically for the program not better. The students seemed to have a great time at the Cell getting off the bus, being downtown, having a better more fun game experieince with the arena scoreboard and amenities. As an alum I have no motivation to go back to a high school gym, even if on campus. heck bring back Baker Field House....what a joke. My wife and I, business clients at various times and I have even brought groups in the past enjoyed a night out, downtown, dinner, maybe a beer or two at the game with some decent food. At the KC feel like going back to high school, not a feel of D 1 basketball which we had so much fun being part of 8 - 10 years ago. I have no motifivation to go sit in the tin can , shoehorned in there with a diminished experieince, eating popcorn and drinking soda like at a high school game.
For the exta money for being at the Cell until a new on campus arena is built we are doing horrible things to the image and status of the program. Is it worth it??? Much bigger financial issues here and all this is doing is killing overall interest in the program and I think will make things worse from a revenue standpoint as season tickets holders lilke myself finally say enough and do not renew next year , local interest and prida erodes including media coverage. Yes , it is important to win games and some say more important that where they are played. I submit they are linked and you can have a lousy season here or there but if you diminish the program and recuruiting by playing in ahigh school gym, and going badkwards in the program not forwards that will lead to more losses and lousy recruiting and teams apart from the fan interest aspect which sucks at the KC. Again, penny wise/dollar foolish, tone dead and arrogant. Thanks Geiger ....$200,000 salary to put a stake in the heart of the program... What an arrogant knob.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 4, 2013 10:20:48 GMT -6
There's no question that this is all a watered-down, "commuter-college" experience with limited amenities and no pre- or postgame. Only shrugging shoulders, embarrased laughs and a muffled goodbye at the dusk of the day.
But what truly diminishes the experience are the repeated 20-point home beatdowns, to which there seems to be no end in sight.
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