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Post by PantherNation on Mar 2, 2011 13:03:27 GMT -6
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Post by uwmfansince1997 on Mar 2, 2011 13:18:40 GMT -6
Nice find.
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Post by GoPanthers33 on Mar 2, 2011 13:31:19 GMT -6
yea someone posted it in another thread but I think it is deserving of its own.
Idk if we should be called bid stealers since we won the conference and Butler is no guarantee of an at-large (Although I think they will get one) but regardless its nice to get some national pub.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 2, 2011 15:50:03 GMT -6
Hate the term "bid-stealers."
Unless, of course, it's used in conjunction with the names Alabama, Baylor, Boston College, Michigan, Minnesota, Oklahoma State and Penn State.
Now, they would be stealing bids.
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Post by Super King on Mar 2, 2011 15:52:56 GMT -6
I still love that we actually have more RPI top-50 wins than Michigan.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 2, 2011 15:56:31 GMT -6
I still love that we actually have more RPI top-50 wins than Michigan. Yes, and we have two more RPI top 50 wins than Boston College. |
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Post by skrapheap on Mar 2, 2011 16:13:49 GMT -6
Hate the term "bid-stealers." Unless, of course, it's used in conjunction with the names Alabama, Baylor, Boston College, Michigan, Minnesota, Oklahoma State and Penn State. Now, they would be stealing bids. |
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Post by BBFran on Mar 2, 2011 18:01:28 GMT -6
I don't have any problem with the term bid-stealers. You guys are too sensitive. In fact, since our record would absolutely preclude us from getting an at-large bid, we certainly will be "stealing" a bid from some other team (whether it's a high or a mid) if we win the HLT.
We are a very, very worthy regular season champion of the Horizon League with our 9-0 run through the conference, but we are also clearly not worthy of the NCAA tournament based on our full season record.
Very good article.
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Rawls
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Everyone's Entitled To My Opinion
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Post by Rawls on Mar 2, 2011 18:26:22 GMT -6
Good point, Fran, until our RPI is at least 68, bid-stealers is a fair term.
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Post by Hack on Mar 2, 2011 20:42:05 GMT -6
I don't have any problem with the term bid-stealers. You guys are too sensitive. In fact, since our record would absolutely preclude us from getting an at-large bid, we certainly will be "stealing" a bid from some other team (whether it's a high or a mid) if we win the HLT. We are a very, very worthy regular season champion of the Horizon League with our 9-0 run through the conference, but we are also clearly not worthy of the NCAA tournament based on our full season record. Very good article. I agree ... they refer to Milwaukee as "bid-stealers" because Butler is currently in as an at-large in most brackets. Let's face it ... Milwaukee gets in via the auto bid and Butler holds onto that at-large, that's "stealing" a bid from another at-large contender. Doesn't matter if it's stealing it from Michigan, Gonzaga or Utah State. |
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Post by Super King on Mar 2, 2011 20:44:23 GMT -6
I don't have any problem with the term bid-stealers. You guys are too sensitive. In fact, since our record would absolutely preclude us from getting an at-large bid, we certainly will be "stealing" a bid from some other team (whether it's a high or a mid) if we win the HLT. We are a very, very worthy regular season champion of the Horizon League with our 9-0 run through the conference, but we are also clearly not worthy of the NCAA tournament based on our full season record. Very good article. Eh. If you win your conference tournament you didn't steal anything from anyone. Bubble teams can't really claim ownership of a spot that's in flux and up for grabs. They should have done more to earn it. |
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Post by GoPanthers33 on Mar 2, 2011 21:43:08 GMT -6
Eh. If you win your conference tournament you didn't steal anything from anyone. Bubble teams can't really claim ownership of a spot that's in flux and up for grabs. They should have done more to earn it. |
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 2, 2011 23:57:15 GMT -6
Have to say I'm with King on this one.
The regular-season champions of a very good mid-major league should be representing their conference in the first place (I'm old school; it matters more what you've done over two and a half months than what you do for four days.) Combine that with a tournament championship in that same very good mid-major conference and I don't see how they're stealing a bid from anyone ... least of all a middling BCS team like Baylor or Minnesota.
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Post by skrapheap on Mar 3, 2011 9:25:45 GMT -6
Eh. If you win your conference tournament you didn't steal anything from anyone. Bubble teams can't really claim ownership of a spot that's in flux and up for grabs. They should have done more to earn it.
The notion that the fourth, fifth, sixth, etc., finisher in a "major" conference "deserves" a bid that a mid-major team "steals" is questionable.
Yes, i'm aware that the level of competition varies from conference to conference. Does it follow that a lower finisher in a more competitive conference "deserves" a bid over a higher finisher in a less competitive conference?
No. If you're going to argue that case, you need something more than a nebulous "they play in a tougher conference" argument. Quantify it. Argue that the lower finisher has a better RPI, and/or a better record against Top 50 or Top 100 RPI, and i'm willing to listen.
Of course, i have not been nor am i ever likely to be on the selection committee, so my opinion is worth everything you paid for it 
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Post by JG Panthers on Mar 3, 2011 9:28:17 GMT -6
If Detroit wins the tournament, they would be a bid-stealer in my opinion. A first place team winning the tournament isn't a bid-stealer.
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