Game 7- Marquette

[uwmfutbol]

I agree with dutch. I'm sick of rationalizing why fans don't attend these games. They didn't come when Pearl was our coach, and they don't come when we host big teams like Marquette. What more do they want?

Develop some $^&*ing school spirit for the love of God.

[Rawls]

I hope the absolute battle with MU will help the attendance across the board. The Milwaukee folks who showed up will tell their friends. The non-partisan fans will rave how much entertainment value they get for their dollar at the Cell vs. the BC. I hope...

Now, Jeter and the boys need to do their part and keep playing the way they did the final ~30 minutes or so. If another WMU debacle is displayed, any potential fans we gained will be lost or in serious jeopardy. No excuse for that kind of inconsistency.

[Super King]

Nov 28, 2010 9:24:12 GMT -6 PantherNation said:

I was also pretty disappointed with the lack of free throw attempts for us. How could we not even get to the line one time in the first half??

Marquette was allergic to contact. Hill was able to do whatever he wanted in the post, Marquette only recorded 21 rebounds, and they only collected two -- two -- offensive boards. There was a particular play late in the game on a Kaylon Williams steal and drive where a Marquette player basically played toreador and didn't even try to interrupt the shot. Marquette was still committing fouls -- we were in the double bonus by the end -- but they had no intention of making significant contact on defense.

[uwmball]

Nov 28, 2010 11:14:20 GMT -6 teddyp00 said:

Anyone know why did Boga only play 13 minutes?

It was a good effort I just hope the team needs to learn they have to play every game like they played this game. Playing with that level of effort every game will close the spurts of mental lapses they had and make any game a winnable game in the future.

Like other have said the parts are their to make a run they just need to play hard every game.

Boga is a big reason why DJO went off. He clearly isn't in any way the guy to guard DJO. DJO got right by him early for a layup. Then hit a three. DJO could get to the basket with extreme ease against Boga. Lonnie sagged off of him, resulting in easy uncontested 3's from DJO.

Although there are some holes in his game, I would like to see an expanded role from Allen. He could really be a lockdown defender, and give the team a boost with his athleticism. He wouldn't be counted on to score/handle the ball a lot with Tone and Kaylan logging big minute. But, with his activity (that offensive board late was huge!) he could give us a big lift.

[Deleted]

Nov 28, 2010 12:50:13 GMT -6 uwmfutbol said:

I agree with dutch. I'm sick of rationalizing why fans don't attend these games. They didn't come when Pearl was our coach, and they don't come when we host big teams like Marquette. What more do they want?

Develop some $^&*ing school spirit for the love of God.

I'm pretty much to the point where if they want to be a damn Badger or Golden Eagle fan so much then don't come here.

[Pounce Needs Pals]

I wish there was a bigger crowd. Many around me where I sit all said the same thing. MU fans don't view this as a big game. Many who are MU season-tickets holders are old. ( no saying it's right or wrong) There are just not enough UWM fans out there to come to games. The timing of the game in when it was played worked great for both schools but not for the fans. 1) Badger football game wasn't even sold-out for the Rose Bowl 2) Thanksgiving Weekend 3) Maybe the Bucks


Like I said to start this off on Wednesday, there is no way UWM can play as bad as they did versus Western Michigan. Make MU shoot from the outside. Ya, DJO finally started making shots, that didn't happen in the 2nd half. If the Panthers can play this tough from here on out, good things can happen for Milwaukee.

[xtownfan]

Hard to negotiate a deal when you do not have an AD. But I do not see a 2-1 deal happening, and a home-and-home is out of the question.

Sorry guys, but if last night proved anything, it proved you cannot draw a decent crowd, even if the other side provides half of it. While you are drawing 3,500 a game or less, which is about what you have averaged for years, there is no way you get a favorable deal from the guys across the street who sell four times that much in season tickets.

[PantherU]

Nov 28, 2010 14:30:47 GMT -6 xtownfan said:

Hard to negotiate a deal when you do not have an AD. But I do not see a 2-1 deal happening, and a home-and-home is out of the question.

Sorry guys, but if last night proved anything, it proved you cannot draw a decent crowd, even if the other side provides half of it. While you are drawing 3,500 a game or less, which is about what you have averaged for years, there is no way you get a favorable deal from the guys across the street who sell four times that much in season tickets.

I don't think I'd even argue for a home and home. I do know that the uwgb-MU deal is 2-for-1, and MU would definitely like the idea of sticking it to UW, who has effectively a 4-for-1 with both mid-majors; signing a 2-for-1 with UWM would make UW look bad for demanding more.

If I were you, xtown, I'd be glad the Wisconsin state legislature hasn't made the same move that Iowa's did, which effectively has all four D-I teams in that state play home and home with each other.

You've said, xtown, that you'd not like a 2-for-1. Say that is out of the question and MU refuses to sign that. What would you say to a 3-for-1?

[dutchpthr]

Nov 28, 2010 14:30:47 GMT -6 xtownfan said:

While you are drawing 3,500 a game or less, which is about what you have averaged for years, there is no way you get a favorable deal from the guys across the street who sell four times that much in season tickets.

To that then why did u sign a deal with GB they draw about the same as UWM, and using your statement there shouldn't be a deal with them then as well.....

I can understand if you don't feel anything for the series between Mu and UWM but to use ticket sales as a reason does not hold up sorry man but because one team doesn't sell as many season tickets is not a reason to or not play them at all....

[milwsport]

I think all of this hand wringing is over reacting. The Badger's didn't sell out a conference championship game. It was freaking cold out and it was Thanksgiving weekend.

It's not that people aren't interested it's that they weren't interested enough. Our marketing budget is small. We have to come up with ways to use what we have more effectively, to reach those who are interested and convince them to be interested enough to come out.

Things like this feed on themselves. No one goes because they think they isn't cool or the hot thing to do. We have to work to change that perception. As someone who has done that in the past, I can tell you it CAN be done.

But it will take resources, it will take a team effort, it will take keeping an open mind to new ideas and it will take smart use of what resources we have.

What is NOT helpful is all t his talk about how no one cares, no one is interested etc. All that does is tell people that it's not worth trying, not worth investing in and a hopeless cause. So why bother to try or even go to a game.

[PJD]

It's really all about winning. This team looks better than their record.... But, their record is not good (at this point). We need to put together a good win streak to prove that this team is really good. Let's see how December goes. If we really have a good December, people will start to come. The average fan we've had in the past does not see this team as a good team yet. So far, this season has not done anything to attract the more casual fan. There's a ton of games to go, but the team must turn it around effort wise and consistency wise. There's no other magical way to get people to come. Period. End of story.

[dutchpthr]

Nov 28, 2010 14:57:26 GMT -6 milwsport said:

What is NOT helpful is all t his talk about how no one cares, no one is interested etc. All that does is tell people that it's not worth trying, not worth investing in and a hopeless cause. So why bother to try or even go to a game.

I would agree with you here if this was a site that more people then the ones who already go to the games and cheer for this school and this team.

The perception around this city and this area about UWM is that they are not anything worthy of anyone's times. We get no mentions in the media we get no recognition away from the eastside and this game just shows that.

PEOPLE IN THIS CITY DON'T CARE ABOUT UWM ATHLETICS and that is just the reality as a whole. We have some dedicated sponsors and business relations but our name is not on anyone in the city's radar from a recognition perspective, and that is sad. We have a very large number of alumni living in the surrounding metropolitan area and still can not get any interest, we have people who are alumni in high positions that end up routing for other teams in not only this state but this city and they don't seem to be bothered much, it is because there is no school spirit or pride. A lot of that i think falls on the fact that we have a university that operates without the right hand knowing what the left hand is doing and other issues in that regard and in an alumni group that is at best fractionally involved with this athletic department.

I guess the question again falls too when the university doesn't care about their own athletic department why is anyone else going too?

Sorry for hitting the same point over and over but this game just has me pissed off and completely bothered and its just not going away this time.

[Deleted]

Could not agree more with the last three posts. I will say though PJD, sometimes it's almost like winning vs. attendance is the chicken in the egg. The more 6th man you have out of the crowd the better your chance for galvanizing that into the momentum that produces such a high % of home victories for teams. But you have to be winning - a lot (!) - to get the big crowds that create the home court advantage (and streak to 20-0 at the Cell which I think we will do in the nest couple seasons/years- starting this year... you never know! I had a dream last night. lol).

As for you xtownfan. I don't get it. It's a free country so spout all you want and belittle our program as you see fit. Even though we might not always like what people have to say, anyone is welcome to post what they want. That is an important part of discussion boards like this.

But I think a 2-1 deal is the most fair and realistic deal for this next series contract. For the city, the the state, for Milwaukee fans and Marquette fans (can you seriously say that last night's game provided less entertainment for Golden Eagles fans than would another game against a much less competitive team?).

If MU doesn't want an intracity foe and would prefer we not even have this series, though I don't understand that stance as it's kind of chickensh*t, I guess that's fine. I would hope level heads prevail and a 2-1 deal is struck. It only makes sense for both parties- and most importantly, for the fans of both Programs..

*I think we should have a 2-1 with UW as well. Bo was our coach. He probably knows that this would be a very exciting thing for all college basketball fans in Wisconsin for years to come.

[PANTHERfan]

This board is for conversation and there's nothing wrong with pointing out the reality of our situation. Frankly, I don't thing 25 people talking about our lack of fan support has any sway on the casual fan or the somewhat interested student when they consider whether to take in a game.

It's not like what we're dealing with is any different than 90% of the mid major programs out there. Win consistently and people will show up. Ultimately the play on the court will determine your fan support --- especially when your school is located in a place that has choices when it comes to entertainment.

I think what would make many here happy would be to see a consistent, coherent, and broad marketing campaign. For whatever reason it seems that we've been unable to accomplish this.

[uwmfutbol]

Any fan who is reading or posting on this board is likely not a "casual" fan. Sadly, our casual fans probably can't name a single player on this roster.