ISU passed on Jeter; Jeter didn't turn down ISU!

[milwsport]

Keep in mind that a coach's success at the mid-major level does not guarantee success in the bigs AND the more history there is for a program, the greater the expections are. The article below illustrates both of those points. Here's a coach who did well in the mid majors had some success but it wasn't enough.

I'm sure Jeter understands these dynamics.

SOUTH ORANGE, N.J. (AP) -- Seton Hall fired basketball coach Louis Orr on Friday, a little more than a week after the Pirates lost by 20 points in the opening round of the NCAA tournament.

Orr coached Seton Hall for five seasons and had two years left on his contract.

"I have evaluated the basketball program thoroughly and discussed it with Louis," athletic director Joe Quinlan said. "As a result, we could not agree on critical issues related to the management of the program."

Orr was 80-69 at Seton Hall. He led the Pirates to the NCAA tournament twice and to the NIT in 2003, but came under fire after finishing 12-16 a year ago.

This season Seton Hall finished 18-12, defeating Top 25 teams Pittsburgh and West Virginia late in the season but losing to Notre Dame, St. John's and DePaul and nearly missing the Big East tournament. The Pirates' season ended with an 86-66 loss to Wichita State in the first round of the NCAAs on March 16.

[nighthawk]

tbone said:

Sorry dude, but there's absolutely no way that Madison is a gig any coach would leave for. You're putting Madison in the mix with all those teams with fantastic basketball histories?

T

Sorry about that, I mixed Madison due to Jeter. The rest were "everyone" schools.

If Madison called, he's gone in 60 seconds I think.

As for why it's so important, it has little to do with Jeter specifically. I love him as a coach and have a lot of respect for him as a person, but it isn't about him as an individual.

This is a statement on the health and viability of the program. We are showing that we have financial backers with money to make the program grow. We are showing that we will not just roll over when our coach is approached by a "big school". We are making a statement that while we may be in the Horizon, we have an alumni base of over 100,000 in SE WI alone, and have some extremely successful individuals among them.

For example, Marquette went through a similar period in the early 90's with Kevin O'Neil leaving for UT after a Sweet 16 season. Mike Deane was not a very solid replacement, and as such was not "poached", but when Crean was hired, MU eventually had made and would continue to make some big leaps (move to CUSA from the Great Midwest Conference/Horizon League as well as higher national profile and eventual Final Four and move to Big East) and Crean has been paid handsomely for his part in it.

Now MU has little concerns about most vacancies. (Although there is some angst in the land of the Gold about Crean leaving for Indiana.) Even if Crean were to leave, the buy out ensures they have more than enough money to get the coach they want.

We aren't to that level at Milwaukee yet, but Pearl was our O'Neil, and Tennessee was our, well, Tennessee. Let's just Hope Jeter isn't our Deane!

As much as I could care less about MU, there is a lesson for all Milwaukee fans there. MU was in the Great Midwest / Horizon League as recently as 1995. The rise of the MU program is evidence that success and donor activity can make a huge jump possible.

And that's why I think this is much more important than anyone may realize right now. I hope I look back on this week in 10 years and realize that this is the moment we went "big time".

[schobes]

I don't see any purpose in this original post other than to try to piss people off and get a reaction out of them. It's been stated before, I'll state it again: All that matters is the RJ will be here next year. When we look back years from now we might say "Remember when we thought Jeter was going to ISU?" But that's about it - we aren't going to be trying to remember who got turned down for the job.

[brewtownbrian]

schobes said:

I don't see any purpose in this original post other than to try to piss people off and get a reaction out of them.

I said is before and I'll say it again...Butler fans, always trying to start some s**t.

[nil]

bla, bla, bla..... go suck on another Bud, buddy.

I think the topic is worthy of discussion, given the extreme reactions on the announcement that he might be leaving, and then that he would be staying!

[germanathens]

bla, bla, bla..... go suck on another Bud, buddy.

Bud? Don't you mean Miller?

[brewtownbrian]

nil said:

bla, bla, bla..... go suck on another Bud, buddy.

I think the topic is worthy of discussion, given the extreme reactions on the announcement that he might be leaving, and then that he would be staying!

I guess you've got a point in a mixed up Butler sort of way. Nice reply by the way. And freak is right, I (like most Milwaukeeans) prefer Miller to Bud.

The topic had been discussed at great length prior to your post, that's all.

I think the answer you got is that none of us care if RJ was offered the job and turned it down or if ISU never offered it to him or if ISU didn't want to take the financial burden of the buy-out or any of the other lame-ass scenarios!!!

The only thing that matters to the UWM fans on this board, and probably outside of this board, is that we got Rob Jeter back for another year as the head coach!!! End of story!!

[JimmyLemke]

Yawn. This is pointless now.

[bball30]

That's why it hasn't been posted on in 3 days

[JimmyLemke]

I know. But three days ago I was in South Carolina, and I rarely read when they were posted unless it says TODAY.