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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2006 7:48:26 GMT -6
Womack, I have no idea what games you are watching, And I resent that fact that you question my basketball IQ when you have no idea who the hell I am and have never sat down an talked basketball with me. Maybe you need to go over the game tape a little more and reflect on Joah's selfish nature on the court. Watch how he moves when he doesn't have the ball. He's a frigging statue. At least I recognize the quality intangible of setting a good screen for your teammate to get an open look. I have no problem with people disagreeing with my viewpoint but please provide some concrete evidence of Joah's assets to this team. By the way, don't talk to me about intangibles chief, I recognize all the quality basketball players who don't put up great stats, but do the little things that help teams win (Pancratz, Weise, Wright, McCoy). All these guys have many more intangibles than Joah Tucker because there self-less not selfish. That's what bring's home a winner.
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Post by TBone on Jan 20, 2006 12:59:20 GMT -6
jpanther03,
Do you honestly believe that bringing Joah in off the bench is going to help him see that he shouldn't be shooting fadeaway jumpers from 3, getting travel calls, playing more unselfish? I would think that being sat for the final two minutes of the Loyola game should have done the trick, but it hasn't. It obviously hasn't, but I also don't think we can afford Joah playing worse, (which I think he would) if he were to come off the bench. We need all the points he can bring to the table, and hope that he figures out (or at least is finally able to process what I'm sure coach is telling him) what he needs to do to help the team.
T
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2006 15:28:04 GMT -6
TBone, I guess it's all in one's perception. From my vantage point in the stands and on the TV, this guy (JT) doesn't get it and never will. I wasn't a big fan of his game last year but everyone overlooked it because of the run UWM was on. TBone you are absolutely right when you say we need all the points we can get. However, are you willing to get 17-25 points out of JT when he needs 25 shots to get there. That's taking quality shots away from some of our other guys who can put the ball in the hole. I would rather see high percentage shots coming from the mid range, JT move without the ball. You watch on Saturday how many times this guy moves around to set a screen for his teammates (sarcasm), becuase he won't.
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Post by nohopspanther on Jan 20, 2006 16:47:06 GMT -6
Joah is not AI when it comes to points per shot, and the idea of bringing the best mismatch off the bench is deserving of ridicule. Have you ever coached or reffed basketball at any level before?!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2006 8:08:34 GMT -6
nohopspanther, "JT is the best mismatch the panthers have?" That BS comment deserves ridicule and maybe your objectivity is so fundamentally blinded that you cannot even see what's happening on the court. What type of mismatch does he bring to the table. When I think of a mismatch, I think of someone who has an inside outside game which he does not. How are you going to argue this? JT is HORIBBLE from the outside. His dribbling skills are novice at best and his decision making is awful. How can you dispute this? Do you even attend the games? Do you know what an objective opinion is? I've been to all the home games this year and two road games in Green bay and Madison, so don't bring that weak BS of ridicule to me. I've had plenty of time between the last three years to study JT's game, and he is arguably the most overrated player in the country. He got all that pub after one lucky game against Illinois when he couldn't miss a shot. In reference to my credentials, I have coached basketball and football in Milwaukee at the freshmen level because I am a young coach/teacher within MPS. I also played in high school. Have you ever done either? Maybe you need to verse yourself more with the fundamentals of the game before you start making uneducated outlandish comments about ridiculing me.
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Post by TBone on Jan 23, 2006 9:52:47 GMT -6
I agree with nohops that JT is one of our toughest mismatches, but not because of his outside/inside game. I think he's a tough college matchup because of his size, quickness, and build. He's 6'5/6'6, so can play either the 3 or 4, but if you play a 3 on him he should be able to post him up all day due to his strength. If you play a 4 on him, he's quick enough to leave the guy in the dust. That's a big part of why he had 32 against Illinois last year IMO--their big guys couldn't stay with him. Next, I'd list AT as our next best matchup. See Hawaii game last year for why. He's got a great outside/inside game. T
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Post by uwmpanther on Jan 23, 2006 13:37:14 GMT -6
I don't think there is any doubt that JT provides that toughest match-up for an opponent for pretty much the reasons that TBone points out in the post above. That of course does not say that there is a lot of improvement possible on JT's part (decision making, taking good shots only, etc.).
I wish the posters on this thread (especially highly opinionated jpanther03, being a MPS teacher) would stop questioning other poster's credentials (A few examples: Have you ever attended a game? Have you ever coached basketball? Do you know what an objective opinion is?)
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Post by nohopspanther on Jan 23, 2006 17:04:00 GMT -6
"J" tell me who is a mismatch if it is not Joah on our team. Yes, I have coached, officiated and played. Not to mention gone to plenty of games including @madison. I spent 3 years with the band going to the games as well. JT does bring an inside out game as he takes the ball to the hoop from the arc. He can stop and hit the 15 footer, his 3pt shooting is hit and miss with emphasis on miss when he does a stupid lean-back shot. He can post up ANYONE on the the opponent from 1-5 and overpower them, a spin move and up and under. He doesn't fare well against the double team, that does NOT make him a non-mismatch. In fact, he draws the double and occasional triple team because he IS such a mismatch for the opponent.
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