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Post by lucidfateaway on Jan 18, 2006 20:38:52 GMT -6
I'm going to be a bold fan of Rob Jeter and say, Bruce Pearl's system wouldn't have won this game!
I say to all those who have pointed the finger at Jeter with our losses, you need back it up. Free-throws won this game and some might bring the point that it was only a 1 point victory but no coach should never be held responsible for a bad free-throw shooting team.
Let's stand tall and support the coach who has made Milwaukee Basketball into a team of execution when everything else is looking bad from a team that ran-ran-ran, and relied on the opponent to fall in the end. Lets face it this game in any other respect was horrible. Poor NCAA play but with less than half of the second half we were able to rely of the charity stripe.
thanks RJ
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Post by coacheinerson on Jan 18, 2006 20:48:46 GMT -6
Totally agree... they absolutley grinded it out. Nothing went well the entire game and we stole it. Highway robbery.
Notice how things started going well when Tucker fouled out?
hmmm
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Post by uwmpanther on Jan 18, 2006 21:01:01 GMT -6
Notice how things started going well when Tucker fouled out? hmmm I would not read too much into the fact that most of the come-from-behind was accomplished with Tucker on the bench. Sloppy play and dismal free throw shooting at the end by Detroit was a big factor of letting UWM back in. Anyway, it was very encouraging to see that the Panthers fought back instead of packing it in (which would have been easy to do being behind 11 points and last week's loss to GB) |
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Post by milwsport on Jan 18, 2006 23:24:49 GMT -6
Dismal free throw shooting and sloppy play is part of the game. We saw that in GB, and the Titans saw it tonight in Detroit.
Things did go better after Tucker fouled out but that's not necessarily because HE is doing anything wrong. It could be that his team mates realized they had to step up. It could be they were ticked by the fouls called on him. It could also be that Detroit relaxed at that point and thought they had the game won with our big guy on the bench.
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Post by germanathens on Jan 18, 2006 23:32:15 GMT -6
W is a W. Bring on WSU, let's get back into the drivers seat. Students, EMAIL YOUR FRIENDS. Tell them to come back early.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2006 7:42:56 GMT -6
I would definetly read something into the Panthers making a run without Joah Tucker on the floor. This guy is a selfish, undisciplined player who thought after last years NCAA's that he was NBA talent---please. Many on this board may disagree with me, but I prefer watching the Panthers without Joah on the floor. They are a more complete team. Chucking up three's when your not even a good jump shooter, and traveling every other time down the floor isn't helping this team. 3/4 of the time he travels because he's trying to do too much and his selfish nature takes over.
To those of you who are going to trash my post. I do watch the games and attend just about every Panther home game.
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Post by pnthr30 on Jan 19, 2006 8:37:26 GMT -6
Interesting viewpoint, jpanther03. I may not be as adamant about it as you are, but you do bring up some interesting/good points, or at least things that can be discussed. Joah has appeared (at least at times) to be undisciplined and selfish. Notwithstanding, he has the talent to play that card at times. It just seems like he is picking his spots at the wrong point in the game. I agree with you in the fact that Joah does not have NBA type skills/talent, at least at this point in his career. You cannot argue with the fact that there have been several times that UWM has looked smoother without JT on the floor. However, IMHO there is no way that you can just sit him. He may not be NBA caliber, but he brings way to much to the table to have him sit. Bottom line is that he can/should be a dominating HL player. That being said, he is not a great 3 point shooter. I don't think anyone has a problem with him shooting a few to keep the "D" honest, especially when they come off of reversal and in the flow of the offense - a step back/fade away does not fit into this category. Can't say much about his tendency to travel - that is just frustrating. At the end of the day, JT is a very good college player, who will no doubt make a lot of money playing at the end of his tenure at UWM. However, he is not an all world player - maybe we are just expecting him to do to much.  I am starting to just accept the fact that he has some deficiencies (not unlike AS) - gotta take the bad with the good. Fortunately, there is still a lot more good than bad with JT. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2006 11:32:50 GMT -6
Pnthr30,
I agree with you, that JT shouldn't just sit, however I strongly believe he shouldn't be a starter. He could be a good role guy off the bench.
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Rawls
Junior
Everyone's Entitled To My Opinion
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Post by Rawls on Jan 19, 2006 12:08:05 GMT -6
It seems to be a rotating spotlight for the Panthers. AT has been off of late as well, but guys like Boo, Hill, and now hopefully Big D should be able to step up and fill in for them when they're off. Joah does need to stop taking so many threes, but he's still vital to this team being where it is and getting where it wants to go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2006 12:23:12 GMT -6
KRaw,
I agree that Jt is vital, but it should be from the bench. My question to all panther fans would be when does Jt's selfish play become a detriment to the team. In reference to Boo not being on, he can take all the three's he wants, because at the end of the day he's a shooter who has shown an ability to light the floor up. I was at the UW-UWM game and he single handedly brought us back in that game and not just on the offensive end. He played tenacious defense during that 13-0 run at the end of the first half and nailed 3- 3's
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Post by UWMKrazie on Jan 19, 2006 12:45:13 GMT -6
The reliance on FT's to win the game reminds me a lot of our past games vs WI when we continually lose the game at the line by sending them to the line constantly. Does Jeter know Bo Ryan or something???  |
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Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Jan 19, 2006 18:05:52 GMT -6
I totally disagree wiht that....Bruce Pearls system would not have even made that a game...When did we start making our runs? We made our runs when we were running, gunning and pressing
This team is without a doubt at its best when it is pressing full court and running and gunning...NO two ways around that...
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Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Jan 19, 2006 18:08:03 GMT -6
You may like watching them more without him on the court but in no way shape or form are they a better team without him on the floor...If you believe this to be true than you truly do not know basketball and all the intangibles he brings to the court...The matchup problem he presents is enough alone to prove my argument...He changes the way teams play defense and draws awkward matchups which in turn helps everyone else out... Joah is a HUGE asset to this team for so many reasons..Again you all need to get off his back and look at more than points and turnovers I would definetly read something into the Panthers making a run without Joah Tucker on the floor. This guy is a selfish, undisciplined player who thought after last years NCAA's that he was NBA talent---please. Many on this board may disagree with me, but I prefer watching the Panthers without Joah on the floor. They are a more complete team. Chucking up three's when your not even a good jump shooter, and traveling every other time down the floor isn't helping this team. 3/4 of the time he travels because he's trying to do too much and his selfish nature takes over. To those of you who are going to trash my post. I do watch the games and attend just about every Panther home game. |
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Post by milwsport on Jan 20, 2006 0:33:06 GMT -6
If you look at JT's turn overs most of them result from passes when he tries to kick the ball out to others. It seems that some of us think if he passes the ball off, he has too many TO's on the other hand if he doesn't "he's selfish.
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Post by JimmyLemke on Jan 20, 2006 0:59:35 GMT -6
If you look at JT's turn overs most of them result from passes when he tries to kick the ball out to others. It seems that some of us think if he passes the ball off, he has too many TO's on the other hand if he doesn't "he's selfish. Maybe it's not just some of us...maybe he thinks that too. |
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I am starting to just accept the fact that he has some deficiencies (not unlike AS) - gotta take the bad with the good. Fortunately, there is still a lot more good than bad with JT. 
