Rob Jeter Judgement Day

[fan]

which is fair?

[tuckfinn42]

While simulating gameplay such as tonight is quite difficult in any practice situation this team may have had...they also have been practicing under Jeter for quite some time now. They've also been playing together for almost as long as possible. When it comes to fumbling the ball away...missing bunnies...not being on the same page as to passing, screening, picking up defensive matchups...much of the blame has to go to the players.

I was only able to listen to the game tonight, but the players are the ones playing the game and if they didn't take stupid shots, turn the ball over, and could stop someone in a one-on-one situation, then the game would've been different. Now these are things that a coach can work on, place as priorities, and discipline about, but he only has so much control. While we discuss judgement day for Jeter...maybe we should be discussing judgement day for these players, because someone has to step up and be a leader.

[TBone]

This is a ridiculous poll.

You can complain about some of the coach's moves, but like it or not -- he's your coach. You and I have no say in his being your coach or not, leave that to Bud who's done extremely well in getting this program where it is today.

T

[PantherLou]

tbone said:

You can complain about some of the coach's moves

At this stage, I don't think you can even do that. We have played TWO games against D-1 opponents so far.

This poll is worthless. It may have some value a year from now.

[fan]

Please understand that this poll is not intended to criticize Rob Jeter. It is more a question of when it would be fair to evaluate him and his performance here. Some fans have found Jeter to be a great coach before he even coached a game. Some have said that we can't judge his coaching because his system is not in there yet. Either way Bud will make this decision and this poll gives you the chance to say how/when you would judge. For instance Matt Millen allowed Mooch 2.5 years to prove himself and then found him inadequate.

Many members are claiming that Jeter is a great/bad coach after 3(5) games. The poll is intended to measure when you feel would be a good time to assess how well he has done.

I'm assuming your vote PantherLou is for next year. I can't see how this poll could be termed useless. If someone feels he should be judged earlier or later then make a vote and say why.

Again please keep inmind that judged does not necessarily mean judged as bad.

[TBone]

There are two aspects to coaching the college game: recruiting and X's and O's. You can't begin to try to judge a coach on his or her overall performance until he or she has had a chance to bring in players and get those players to play in his or her system. From what I've seen so far, Jeter's done an excellent job of recruiting in a difficult situation.

If you want to judge him solely on X's and O's, then this poll may be more meaningful.

I'd say give him 2 years at minimum, and more fairly 3 years to be able to judge him as an overall head coach.

T

[Pantherholic]

fan said:

For instance Matt Millen allowed Mooch 2.5 years to prove himself and then found him inadequate.

PLEASE tell me you aren't comparing our situation to the Detroit Lions!!!!!!! if so, just jump off a bridge now. Matt Millen is a dumbass dipsh*t who is just as much to blame, possibly a little more than Mooch for the Lions remaining miserable failures. i could go on about the lions but i'll direct this back towards bball. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will a Rob Jeter-style UWM team. if you think this team can be built in that time then pack your sh*t up and support someone else. i think GB is looking for a few more retards. Whenever a coach brings in a new style requiring different capabilities from players it's going to take time. sometimes a month, sometimes a year, sometimes three years. sure there is the random occassion where guys respond instantaneously in the first year, cough, Super Bowl Champion Buccaneers, cough, but not as often. to judge a coach after 2 road games is beyond stupid. these guys are still learning this system and are paying for it through their mistakes. they know their talented and they know they still have work to do. good teams also occasionally lose games they shouldn't. the year after the Packers won the SB in the '90s they lost to the Colts who were 0-10 at that time i believe and where the butt of many jokes from ppl around the media. it happens. yes i was frustrated as hell w/ the game yesterday but i'm not stupid enough to start spouting off on how Jeter sucks or he makes me sick to my stomach or stupid crap like that. yes we have a great team but a coach can only do so much to prepare a team mentally for a game. is it jeter's fault that the guys were jacking up 3s to start the game? doubt it. is it jeter's fault guys were dribbling the ball off their foot and out of bounds? doubt it. it's ok to not agree w/ everything a coach does and Jeter on occassion might make a mistake. he's as imperfect as u and i (except lou since he's immortal ). however if you are going to support him, are u going to support him by chastising him at every mistake he makes or are u going to stand w/ him through the process and support him through the thick and thin? this poll isn't worth 2 squirts of monkey piss until mid-way through the 3rd season AT THE EARLIEST. next year is still too early since he'll be in Year 1 w/ the type of players he wants to run this team.

Are you ppl Florida Gators football fans btw? this might explain a few things if you are.

[uwmfan]

Tbone,

I would add "motivating" to your two aspects of coaching. History tells us there are plenty of good x and o coaches around, plenty of good recruiters, but if you can't motivate a talented team to perform to their highest potential a team may also suffer as a result.

To early to tell on all three IMO. Unfortunately for Rob, he's always going to be judged at UWM by his predecessor and his success. When I think of my criticisms of what Rob "isn't" doing well, I know I'm thinking back to what Bruce DID do very well....motivating, x and o's, and recruiting. Not to mention marketing the program to our fans and anyone who would listen; this is, in my opinion, the greatest weakness for Rob. He's not a salesman and expects the record his teams have to speak on its own. UWM continues to need that salesman, and Rob's lack of experience actually leading a program has been and continues to be my major concern. I'm hopeful he'll get them on the right track....only time will tell!

[Kroener3535]

I suggest firing rob jeter and hiring Tony Jones...thats right rob jeter gets no caps cause he is of no importance...not a rob jeter fan

[Hack]

kroener3535 said:

I suggest firing rob jeter and hiring Tony Jones...thats right rob jeter gets no caps cause he is of no importance...not a rob jeter fan

[bball30]

agreed hack

of no importance, that's just stupid and ignorant

[Kroener3535]

call me what u will I was not in favor of this hire last Spring, and the fact that we already have 1/3 of our loss total from last year in 3 games Im not too sold on this style of play and I think if u talked to any of the players, they will tell u the team is already in turmoil

[Hack]

And the fact he wants to replace him with Tony Jones, who would rather be "one of the boys" and look good while doing it. Why do you think Jones was so quickly passed over to be the head coach? No way could Bud just hand it to him like Tony probably thought it should've been.

Jimmy Collins can manage a team better than Tony Jones.

[PantherLou]

kroener3535 said:

I think if u talked to any of the players, they will tell u the team is already in turmoil

Ok, You're entitled to your opinion, but have YOU actually talked to any of the players?

[DunneDeal]

Kroener, we lost to MEMPHIS....a top 10 team now? and to Tenn Tech who is very good on the home court. 2 Losses to 2 good teams, 2 teams that will prolly win their respective confrences(C-USA and OhioValley) So calm down about losses...we lost games early last season...a close game at Mannhattan which was in OT so calm down...the offence is getting better, shot choice could be better, but give it some time...

The HL does not have teams that will give us an RPI to get an At-Large...so it counts during HL Tourny Time...so chill dude!