dutchpthr
Junior
ain't much if it ain't dutch
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Post by dutchpthr on Mar 22, 2005 13:06:16 GMT -6
actually sixthman it is 19 of our last 20, and 11 in a row.
but i know what you meant.
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damasa
Sophomore
KFC: Kick From Chuck. What else do you need?
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Post by damasa on Mar 22, 2005 13:16:39 GMT -6
Honestly, Alabama and BC were overrated... although still impressive victories... The only common opponents between the two schools: Valparaiso: You lost 72-71, we killed them. Wisconsin: You lost 66-37... we beat them 3 times. This is bad logic my friend. You can't compare games of the past with matchups of the future. UWM is playing a much different game since that stretch in December... Ohio State beat Illinois and what did that get them? It means nothing at this point, the regular season has no bearing on the post-season. You guys did kill Valpo though...
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Post by Spike1057 on Mar 22, 2005 14:52:04 GMT -6
This is bad logic my friend. You can't compare games of the past with matchups of the future. UWM is playing a much different game since that stretch in December... Ohio State beat Illinois and what did that get them? It means nothing at this point, the regular season has no bearing on the post-season. You guys did kill Valpo though... Sure you cant compare games, but lets look at things here. The Illini played much harder teams during their last 20 games. I dont know about you but if we match YSU and CSU with Northwestern, and Michigan. I think its obvious that we play an easy schedual. I just dont think you can sit their and believe that your winning streak would hold up in a better confrence. Plus I still dont see how you match up well with the Illini. Williams is a sure top pick in the draft, were Ed if he gets picked will be lucky to make the team. Advantage in all-around game has to go to Williams. Boo's A game cant compare to Dee's B game. Tucker will have to play very well with his back to the basket, but I think Powell is over rated anyways, so this will be the key matchup. Im not even going to match big men as Illinois is way better Bench- Ill give to UWM, however this team has been shooting freethrows out of their a$$es these last few games. If they do that maybe they keep it close. My guess close game for the first 9 min then Illini make their run and its all down hill from there. Illini 92-75
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Post by PantherPrincess on Mar 22, 2005 14:59:27 GMT -6
thanks for your opinion
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Post by aknowsense on Mar 22, 2005 15:00:03 GMT -6
Honestly, Alabama and BC were overrated... although still impressive victories... The only common opponents between the two schools: Valparaiso: You lost 72-71, we killed them. Wisconsin: You lost 66-37... we beat them 3 times. ...With the way we play defense, and the fact that we are one of hte best passing teams in the nation, I am not TOO worried... There is always the "any given night" factor... and i would imagine the 'Zona and OSU fans in attendance would rather play UWM and not Illinois... although I imagine of the 13,500 non-alloted tickets, about 75-80% will be orange. Records, Rankings, don't mean ish right now both of these teams might as well be 0-0 and never have played a game the whole year. That's why this tourney is so great; it can happen to anybody, anytime.
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Post by aknowsense on Mar 22, 2005 15:01:47 GMT -6
Sure you cant compare games, but lets look at things here. The Illini played much harder teams during their last 20 games. I dont know about you but if we match YSU and CSU with Northwestern, and Michigan. I think its obvious that we play an easy schedual. I just dont think you can sit their and believe that your winning streak would hold up in a better confrence. Plus I still dont see how you match up well with the Illini. Williams is a sure top pick in the draft, were Ed if he gets picked will be lucky to make the team. Advantage in all-around game has to go to Williams. Boo's A game cant compare to Dee's B game. Tucker will have to play very well with his back to the basket, but I think Powell is over rated anyways, so this will be the key matchup. Im not even going to match big men as Illinois is way better Bench- Ill give to UWM, however this team has been shooting freethrows out of their a$$es these last few games. If they do that maybe they keep it close. My guess close game for the first 9 min then Illini make their run and its all down hill from there. Illini 92-75 92??? WTF!!!
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Post by dunzz on Mar 22, 2005 15:14:07 GMT -6
Number of 90 point wins in the last 17 games = 0 Number of of 90 point wins in post season = 0 Yawn, i cant wait for spike to eat his words.
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Post by ringoutahoya on Mar 22, 2005 16:03:05 GMT -6
H There is always the "any given night" factor... and i would imagine the 'Zona and OSU fans in attendance would rather play UWM and not Illinois... although I imagine of the 13,500 non-alloted tickets, about 75-80% will be orange. A good chunk of that Orange will be anti-Illwhini
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Post by dylanrocks on Mar 22, 2005 16:12:00 GMT -6
Thanks, Ahoya. I want to comment here how the city of Milwaukee has rallied around our Panthers and merely pay tribute to our rival fans. I listened to Homer True's show last night and he was incredibly fair to UWM. Go, Panthers!
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Post by Spike1057 on Mar 22, 2005 18:12:21 GMT -6
Number of 90 point wins in the last 17 games = 0 Number of of 90 point wins in post season = 0 Yawn, i cant wait for spike to eat his words. Dunce do you really think the score can not reach this high. Lets look UWM uses the press which speeds up the game. Illinois loves to run and score quick. The first 10 min should decided how this game will be played. Thats why I have come to the conclusion UWM scores, puts the press on Illini break free and score. 92 sounds about right to me.
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Post by aknowsense on Mar 22, 2005 20:49:33 GMT -6
Dunce do you really think the score can not reach this high. Lets look UWM uses the press which speeds up the game. Illinois loves to run and score quick. The first 10 min should decided how this game will be played. Thats why I have come to the conclusion UWM scores, puts the press on Illini break free and score. 92 sounds about right to me. The line right now is UWM getting +11 (I'd take that bet) with the o/u at 143 (I'd bet the over) you think it's going to be 167. That's a huge difference. Loving to run and being able to run are 2 different things, you guys will get easy baskets but not scoring 2.3 pts every minute of the game. Your shooting hasn't been lights out and in order for this to happen it would be. Your prediction is crazy and the degnerents in Vegas even know that ain't going to happen. Spike I like your confidence root hard for your squad but I think it's clouding your judgement.
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Post by aknowsense on Mar 22, 2005 20:51:35 GMT -6
Dunce do you really think the score can not reach this high. Lets look UWM uses the press which speeds up the game. Illinois loves to run and score quick. The first 10 min should decided how this game will be played. Thats why I have come to the conclusion UWM scores, puts the press on Illini break free and score. 92 sounds about right to me. The line right now is UWM getting +11 (I'd take that bet) with the o/u at 143 (I'd bet the over) you think it's going to be 167. That's a huge difference. Loving to run and being able to run are 2 different things, you guys will get easy baskets but not scoring 2.3 pts every minute of the game. Your shooting hasn't been lights out and in order for this to happen it would be. Also liking to run and being able to run are 2 different things, so far in this tournament both teams that UWM have played have each said how well they handle the press and we all saw how "well" they did. Your prediction is crazy and the degnerents in Vegas even know that ain't going to happen. Spike I like your confidence root hard for your squad but I think it's clouding your judgement. The line right now is UWM getting +11 (I'd take that bet) with the o/u at 143 (I'd bet the over) you think it's going to be 167. That's a huge difference. Loving to run and being able to run are 2 different things, you guys will get easy baskets but not scoring 2.3 pts every minute of the game. Your shooting hasn't been lights out and in order for this to happen it would be. Your prediction is crazy and the degnerents in Vegas even know that ain't going to happen. Spike I like your confidence root hard for your squad but I think it's clouding your judgement.
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Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Mar 22, 2005 20:55:20 GMT -6
Sure you cant compare games, but lets look at things here. The Illini played much harder teams during their last 20 games. I dont know about you but if we match YSU and CSU with Northwestern, and Michigan. I think its obvious that we play an easy schedual. I just dont think you can sit their and believe that your winning streak would hold up in a better confrence. Plus I still dont see how you match up well with the Illini. Williams is a sure top pick in the draft, were Ed if he gets picked will be lucky to make the team. Advantage in all-around game has to go to Williams. Boo's A game cant compare to Dee's B game. Tucker will have to play very well with his back to the basket, but I think Powell is over rated anyways, so this will be the key matchup. Im not even going to match big men as Illinois is way better Bench- Ill give to UWM, however this team has been shooting freethrows out of their a$$es these last few games. If they do that maybe they keep it close. My guess close game for the first 9 min then Illini make their run and its all down hill from there. Illini 92-75 Spike if you are going to do the matchups at least get them right... Hill-Brown (Both very quick, and think pass before shoot, althought they can both light it up) McCants-Williams (Of course Deron is good, but look what Ed has done to good players this year such as Keith Langford of Kansas who is also a high pick) 28pts on the road.....Will be an excellent matchup as no one has stopped McCants so far no matter how good they were DAvis-Head (This will be the big adv for Illinois...Head is excellent and will own size on DAvis) Tucker-Powell (I agree with what you said...They are both very very strong but JOah will have his way with him just like he had his way with Craig Smith, Dudley and Winston from Alabama) Augustine-Tigert (Adrian has already proven he plays bigger than his 6-7 frame..He has played against two seven footers the last two games who are equally as good as Augustine....Augustine is not good at all away from the basket which is where Adrian will take him alot Bench goes to UWM as they have played excellent amazing ball lately and they are simply deeper than Illinois It wont be a 17 point game as you predicted..NO WAY NO HOW
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Post by Spike1057 on Mar 22, 2005 23:04:40 GMT -6
I think giving the ball to Tigert will be a huge mistake against UIUC. I would rather have the ball in Ed's hands than hoping Adrian can make a move on a much better defender. Game will come down to one key stat turnovers and freethrows, UWM has hit of late but can they keep it up.
One more thing sportsbook.com has the over/under on 3's set at 15 what does everyone think of this. I hit the last two UWM games as they have nailed them all day long. But can UWM find these same shots against the best in the country? Let me know what you think, but keep the koolaid to a minimum.
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Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Mar 22, 2005 23:25:22 GMT -6
It will be awfully tough...
They are a good team but BC was a good team and good perimeter defending team as well and we hit threes on them as well.....We have done it all year long including to Kansas who also defends very very well on the perimeter....
Also why is it a mistake to give it to Adrian?? That is ridiculous to say...He is our most fundamentally sound player and our best passer not to mention he is 14-14 from the field in the tournament and is playing out of his mind.....That was a misinformed comment thats for sure
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