Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Feb 3, 2005 16:17:55 GMT -6
I would like to take a minute and look at what we have left and where we may trip up if we do...
Wright St was a huge win for us last night, hopefully that is the beginning of us getting hot for the home stretch.
I think for once we will relaly hand it to UIC. I have never flet this confident in all my yeras following UWM-UIC matchups. We will take care of them by 15. We then play at Loyola which can be tough. They played us pretty decent at UWM and they have been playing better this year under there new coach. I do think we are focused since we will have had 5 or 6 days to rest and prepare for this game and we take care of business which in turn clinches the conference I believe. YSU on the road is next in which we have one day to rest. We lost there last year, so nothing is guarenteed, lets keep our fingers crossed that we dont look past them for Butler. We play Butler at home and they have shown flashes of brilliancy at times but ugly at times as well. That could be a game that could trip us up if we are not careful. We then travel to Hawaii. By no stretch of the imagination will that be an easy game. They are a good team, we need this one for another quality road win and exposure if we want to have any shot whatsoever at an at large bid, and in fact if we win out I think we will get one after beating Hawaii. CSU is next, and they are also a dangerous team, look what they did last week to WSU at home. I think we will finish the season off strong but with a hard fought win over CSU. They will play us tough for 30-35 minutes and then we will take over wiht our experience and quickness and win by 10-15.
Conference tourney will start and we will have a bye and play at home. This is where we need all the students to fire up and get out to the game to cheer us on to another NCAA birth. We have the bullseye on our back now so every team will want to knock us off at home. Anyone disagree wiht my prognosis for the rest of the year?
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Post by admin on Feb 3, 2005 16:31:04 GMT -6
Mr. Womack, Welcome to the board! ;D
Goolsby's at 11:00, Turner Hall at 11:30! - hope to see you there...
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Post by Spike1057 on Feb 3, 2005 16:57:51 GMT -6
I dont disagree that you could win out the rest of the way. But looking past UIC may be a mistake. This is a different team then the one you saw earlier this year. If that means were better or not well I guess will find out. But with the addition of Rocky Collum, and Armond Williams with about 12 games under his belt we should be a tougher team. However since it is at the Cell Ill say I think you will win. As for the rest of the season the only bump I can see is going to Hawaii, and thats because its a long trip. Other then that the whole season is on the tourny since I dont see the commity letting in more then one HL team.
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dutchpthr
Junior
ain't much if it ain't dutch
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Post by dutchpthr on Feb 3, 2005 22:20:10 GMT -6
wait a second...........i'm a bit confused by spike's post. I get that Collum is a good addition to their team, but since when did Williams become an added bonus?
Isn't he the other 7 year senior that magically has handed a gift by the NCAA to stay in school one more semister? So just how is it that Williams is this new toy that is now finally working after 12 games? I mean he has played before this year right;), or did i not get the memo?
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Post by Big D on Feb 3, 2005 22:42:56 GMT -6
wait a second...........i'm a bit confused by spike's post. I get that Collum is a good addition to their team, but since when did Williams become an added bonus? Isn't he the other 7 year senior that magically has handed a gift by the NCAA to stay in school one more semister? So just how is it that Williams is this new toy that is now finally working after 12 games? I mean he has played before this year right;), or did i not get the memo? You're not serious are you? First of all, Williams is a 5th year senior, and it's not like 5th year seniors are unheard of. There was no gift handed out. He was a non-qualifier who worked hard to earn that extra half-year of eligibilty. Second, his first game back was against UWM at the Pavilion. Before that, he had an injured hand, which kept him out of full practices. Do you not think that playing more games and getting back into shape will benefit Armond? I think he will be a much different player this time around.....
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Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Feb 3, 2005 22:46:07 GMT -6
I think what he was trying to say is that last time we played UIC that was ARmonds first game back from academic inelegability (Go figure).
Spike- I understand it would be a mistake to overlook UIC but I certainly think that UWM is going to come out and make a statement this week as to who the most dominant team in our conference is HANDS DOWN..I think the UIC- UWM game earlier in the year was an excellent game and I think UIC was better than than they are now. Just my opinion..They had more optimism and thought they could actualy win and be "The team" in the HL and now there bubble is bursted and everyone knows UWM is "The team"
UWM will come out fired up in front of a wild crowd and will win by 15 or more and put a stamp on the regular season title...
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Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Feb 3, 2005 22:48:12 GMT -6
Armond Williams completly healthy is still not half the player that Joah Tucker is so it really is a mute issue. Williams is tough, (Not the smartest guys around) but pretty good. He is no more than an upper average player in the HL....Joah Tucker will shut him down once again UWM will blow out the Flamers..
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Post by Big D on Feb 3, 2005 23:06:57 GMT -6
Armond Williams completly healthy is still not half the player that Joah Tucker is so it really is a mute issue. Williams is tough, (Not the smartest guys around) but pretty good. He is no more than an upper average player in the HL....Joah Tucker will shut him down once again UWM will blow out the Flamers.. Yeah, this isn't at all a completely biased and ignorant comment....let's not forget that Armond has been named to the HL all-defensive team, the HL second team, and he was the HL tourney MVP last year....plus he was predicted to end up on the first team this year (with Joah Tucker)....so it's beyond ridiculous for you to say that Armond isn't half the player that Tucker is
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Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Feb 3, 2005 23:09:49 GMT -6
Armond was named tourney MVP because UIC won. If UWM won it owuld have been osmeone from UWM, prolly Tucker, who knows. That means nothing as to who is better. MVP could be someone who made one shot all tournament but at a huge time.
Tucker was newcomer of the yera last year and was also second team. Tucker was predicted first team this year and will get it. ARmond WILL NOT get it. Past is the past and present is the present and without a doubt Tucker is heads above ARmond as you will see on Saturday
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Post by Big D on Feb 3, 2005 23:25:37 GMT -6
MVP could be someone who made one shot all tournament but at a huge time. 99.9% of the time, this would never happen. Has it ever happened? As for Armond winning the MVP, sure maybe it helped that we won. But his numbers in the tourney were impressive. He had two double-doubles in the two games he played (10 pts, 12 boards against Butler, and 10 pts and 10 boards against UWM).... and yes, MVP does say something about who is better....are you expecting me to believe that Michael Jordan winning X number of MVPs has nothing to do with him being better than other players in the league.... You may be right....Armond might not make 1st team this year....maybe he'd have had a better shot if he played all year. But, as biased as this sounds, between Tucker and Armond...I take Armond. The guy plays with heart, major intensity, and major energy at 6-5.....and his defense for his size is second to none.
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Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Feb 3, 2005 23:37:15 GMT -6
Have you EVER watched Joah Tucker play? Joah is 6-5 225 and plays as intense as anyone in the whole conference regardless of size. Joah is more physically built and dominant than Armond though I would not want to meet either in a dark alley. You cant use the Armond did not play all year so he wont be first team because he DID play all year in our conference which is what it is based on. Joah hands down is better and plays wiht just as much heart as Willaims does and he is only a junior. He will DOMINATE the league next year...
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Womack
Freshman
Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Feb 3, 2005 23:38:57 GMT -6
Oh yeah another thing....
10/12 and 10/10 are good numbers but nothing to write home about. 10ppg woopie....UWM could have had three guys wiht those numbers had they won. But bottom line was they DID NOT win and UIC did. Things will be different this year since there are no teams of UWM's caliber.....
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dutchpthr
Junior
ain't much if it ain't dutch
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Post by dutchpthr on Feb 3, 2005 23:41:51 GMT -6
hmmmmm......sounds to me that you just described tucker as well with that one. Williams is a good player but he is not the player he was last year and Tucker certainly isn't the player he was last year, he is better by far.
actually i was kinda hoping that you would pick up on the sarcasum (sp?) in my post but apparently you didn't.
Yes i was making light of the fact that Williams is in his 5 year since i didn't understand the point that Spike was trying to make by saying that Williams now has 12 games under his belt. Considering he was a starter last year as well as one of your self prolaimed "big three"
I didn't see how this is something new to your team was my point with that. Williams has been there before and it isn't like he is just some guy that is all of a sudden good now as it seemed to come across in Spike's post. That was where i was coming from in my post so simmer down there big fella before you get all hot and bothered.
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Post by NickHansenHottie on Feb 4, 2005 0:57:21 GMT -6
Armond Williams is a very good player. One of the tops in this league. You really can't deny that.
If he was on UWM we'd all love him.
Yes, he is fun to hate. Yes, he seems to have a short fuse, and at times he doesn't come off as being very intelligent, but come on....
Give the dude some props. He can play.
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dutchpthr
Junior
ain't much if it ain't dutch
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Post by dutchpthr on Feb 4, 2005 1:05:48 GMT -6
i agree that Williams can play. you will get no arguement from me on that one, but i think that right now this year Joah is the better player. that was the point i was trying to state with my comment.
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