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Post by bizzork on Dec 18, 2023 14:46:27 GMT -6
Clearly Lundy is limited in what he can say or do. In the six minute mark of the Longwood post game press conference, he discussed Howell's injury. He looked at someone off camera and pondered out loud if he said too much or could say more. One wonders just how much his hands are similarly tied when it comes to scheduling, recruiting and anything else. The reason he was limited in this particular example is HIPAA rules - there's a limit to which he can disclose someone else's health information. It's possible the other areas have limits related to internal policies, but not as strict as the legal requirements with players' health data.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Dec 18, 2023 15:42:20 GMT -6
I understand HIPAA. Do other teams act as if they are walking on eggshells as much as Milwaukee when it comes to talking about injuries? It took weeks before Bart said Freeman has a back injury.
My question is rhetorical. I don't want to derail this thread.
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Post by Petes on Dec 18, 2023 16:24:44 GMT -6
That’s now 3 players dismissed by lundy in just about a 1.5 years. That would take most coaches/programs a decade to reach out. So either Lundy is running the tightest ship around or he’s too irrational to handle being a D1 coach. Based on what I know from what happened on Friday it seems to me that he is too irrational with decision making. Too often this year BL has looked to play the blame game after losses and deflect away from himself and this seems like another instance of it.
Hopefully Lundy is able to sort it out but this is beginning to look like High Point 2.0 and why he was a retread coach.
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Post by PantherU on Dec 18, 2023 16:34:11 GMT -6
Unfortunate development. I think we would all like some stability in the program and the reason everyone is so frustrated is because we thought we were there.
Oh well. Best of luck to Markeith.
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Post by ghostofpbj on Dec 18, 2023 16:37:10 GMT -6
That’s now 3 players dismissed by lundy in just about a 1.5 years. That would take most coaches/programs a decade to reach out. So either Lundy is running the tightest ship around or he’s too irrational to handle being a D1 coach. Based on what I know from what happened on Friday it seems to me that he is too irrational with decision making. Too often this year BL has looked to play the blame game after losses and deflect away from himself and this seems like another instance of it. Hopefully Lundy is able to sort it out but this is beginning to look like High Point 2.0 and why he was a retread coach. Exactly what I was getting at with my post about Lundy earlier. He seems too emotional to handle the job. One guy getting dismissed? Sure. Three? Absolutely not. He’s the problem.
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Post by buppie05 on Dec 18, 2023 16:46:51 GMT -6
I wish we knew the whole story. Back in the day, Jeter used to routinely dismiss players. 3 in 1.5 years was not out of the ordinary. With Jeter we would at least know the reason though, and so fans weren’t getting nervous like we see now.
Just tell us the reason, stop with the “we wish him the best in the future” generic platitudes, and just come out with it.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Dec 18, 2023 16:47:12 GMT -6
Pete's, what do you know about what happened Friday?
Seems to me this has been brewing for a while. Bart has been saying he saw trouble coming for returning players since prior to the season. He said last Wednesday after the Longwood game he needs only 7 or 8 players. Maybe whatever happened with Markeith Friday was just the final straw.
I don't think dismissal of two players from last season is all that unusual. It happens throughout D1. It did at the other program I follow, Grand Canyon, and they are doing fine.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Dec 18, 2023 16:47:21 GMT -6
It’s not ideal, but it’s been done. Three players were dismissed in the middle of the 2006-07 season. The team got better after that. Rob Jeter was here for many years after that.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Dec 18, 2023 16:51:47 GMT -6
I wish we knew the whole story. Back in the day, Jeter used to routinely dismiss players. 3 in 1.5 years was not out of the ordinary. With Jeter we would at least know the reason though, and so fans weren’t getting nervous like we see now. Just tell us the reason, stop with the “we wish him the best in the future” generic platitudes, and just come out with it. Honestly, I agree with you until the last part. Unless he did something illegal, it doesn’t do much good to talk negatively about a college kid he’s coaching in front of the public. If what we did in college at that age was published to the public, I’m sure there’d be some unnecessary embarrassment. I think it kinda makes Lundy look better as a leader when he’s taking the brunt of the decision. The fans on here and Twitter seem to be handling this is a much more pro-Markeith manner than a pro-Lundy manner. Just my two cents on that.
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Post by buppie05 on Dec 18, 2023 16:57:06 GMT -6
I wish we knew the whole story. Back in the day, Jeter used to routinely dismiss players. 3 in 1.5 years was not out of the ordinary. With Jeter we would at least know the reason though, and so fans weren’t getting nervous like we see now. Just tell us the reason, stop with the “we wish him the best in the future” generic platitudes, and just come out with it. Honestly, I agree with you until the last part. Unless he did something illegal, it doesn’t do much good to talk negatively about a college kid he’s coaching in front of the public. If what we did in college at that age was published to the public, I’m sure there’d be some unnecessary embarrassment. I think it kinda makes Lundy look better as a leader when he’s taking the brunt of the decision. The fans on here and Twitter seem to be handling this is a much more pro-Markeith manner than a pro-Lundy manner. Just my two cents on that. Thanks for the response. You’ve gotten me to somewhat change my opinion. I guess I don’t need specifics but “repeated violation of team rules” would at least quell the rumors that this was a one time incident of kicking a ball in practice.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Dec 18, 2023 17:02:19 GMT -6
Are you guys watching the games with your eyes closed? or just the panther wool over your eyes, it was clear all year the source of the discontent was coming from MB. That sh*t is contagious on teams. I know there are some posters who have some sort of personal connect with MB and thats fine, but after the dirty shot against Davis it was clear dude has been frustrated by his lack of production this season. I guarantee this has more to do then just one blowup at practice. Lundy doesnt strike me as a hothead but why would you keep a guy who A you didnt recruit B doesnt play hard for spells C isn't an effective D1 player, if hes going to be a locker room issue for you? This isnt inter murals. I had hopes that MB would improve his game but he hasnt and is largely the same player from 3 years ago.
RE BJ being gone, come on guys he was likely always going to be gone after this year. Cant blame him IMO.
RE Lundy kicking more guys off the team then anyone else. That happens at D1 schools all the time, but once more if you only follow the panthers you wouldnt know that. UW had a kid dismissed or suspended indefinitely earlier this year also. Louisville kicked a guy off and it was a huge deal literally a week ago.
Players who moved on. JT still hasnt played a minute at his new school JJ was clearly just done playing college ball here as evidenced by his step down move to Grambling. Which i believe is much much closer to home for him.
RE the season going forward, anyone throwing in the towel cause MB is off the team, well lol good riddance and hopefully you stop posting and coming to the games. Addition by subtraction was what all my panther watching friends were texting me today.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Dec 18, 2023 17:06:13 GMT -6
This is disappointing. I was impressed with Browning's athleticism when he first burst onto the scene for PBS. I thought his injury that year was a big blow to that team's success, even with the PBJ distraction. I highly doubt this move is basketball related. Lundy often complimented Browning's defense. The playing time Browning received speaks for itself. We are better off for this type of thing to happen in a down year rather than an up one. I mean you have to compliment something? Its certainly not going to be his bad shot choice and super high turnover rate on offense. I also didnt see this great defense this year.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Dec 18, 2023 17:09:55 GMT -6
Last year everyone acted like Lundy was the greatest thing since Bruce Pearl. Now he’s on PBS level. That’s a fair evaluation. Can you really blame us though? We were sold another paper tiger by Amanda Braun but now know it. We wanted him to be the guy so bad that we probably gave him too much praise too early. Over the last 9 months or so he has made some extremely questionable personnel decisions whether it be recruiting or dismissals of players. He deserves the hot seat, and his chair is only getting hotter with these kinds of decisions. You guys will find any reason to blame Braun this crap isnt on her at all.
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Post by FTA1982 on Dec 18, 2023 17:57:59 GMT -6
Not to hijack this thread but it sounds like JT isnt playing due to the two time transfer rule that the NCAA has.
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Post by FTA1982 on Dec 18, 2023 18:04:28 GMT -6
As for what happened on Friday and this season, why cant anyone provide what happened on here if they are aware? It might clear up the confusion and arguments. All we know is he kicked a ball and got into an argument. I can't believe a D1 head coach would be dismissing players for that.
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