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Post by FTA1982 on Dec 2, 2023 23:22:10 GMT -6
Two positives:
Markeith balled his ass off. He left it all out there.
Darius Duffy is a fun player to have. He looked like Ahmad tonight blocking shots.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Dec 2, 2023 23:27:13 GMT -6
Two positives: Markeith balled his ass off. He left it all out there. Darius Duffy is a fun player to have. He looked like Ahmad tonight blocking shots. Yup, those two (and I’d argue Dominic Ham’s energy) were definitely the bright spots tonight.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Dec 2, 2023 23:32:52 GMT -6
Agreed. I think Lundy has to learn that recruiting the right guys is better than recruiting the best guys. A lot of these players this year seem to have not worked on improving this offseason or are in it all for themselves. Seriously, this team needs to watch Dominic Ham play. His ability is so far below pretty much everyone else on the team. And if everybody played with the intensity of Ham, maybe we would suck significantly less. No id prefer he recruit some talented basketball players, not retreads that didnt work out elsewhere. I think we may be on the same page with this one. Sometimes I think coaches (definitely PBS but also probably Lundy this year) recruit the top ranked players. These are often retreads like Langston Wilson or Erik Pratt or Harrison Henderson or VBJ. But the guys who have become key players with our team are often relative unknowns who show great leadership and a team first mentality. I’m thinking of guys like Matt Tiby. Just because a player isn’t well known doesn’t mean that he isn’t (a) good and (b) a bigger asset to the team than well known players.
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Post by pantherfan21 on Dec 2, 2023 23:46:15 GMT -6
Need a good reason why Pratt didn't play
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 2, 2023 23:50:58 GMT -6
Need a good reason why Pratt didn't play An explanation from inside the program? Don't hold your breath. I'll never quit on my school, but I give up on ever getting any useful information from anyone connected to our program.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Dec 3, 2023 0:45:03 GMT -6
Panthers get run over by rival Phoenix in Horizon League opener, 70-58 Curt Hogg Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Those hoping for the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee to hit the reset button with Horizon League play rolling around didn’t get their expectations met on Saturday.
Opening conference play and taking on their top rivals after an up-and-down first month of the season, the Panthers were disjointed on both ends in a 70-58 loss to UW-Green Bay at the Resch Center.
Playing without star wing BJ Freeman, averaging 19.5 points this year but out Saturday with an injury, the Panthers scored a season-low on offense while allowing the Phoenix to shoot nearly 50% overall from the field as well as from three-point range.
The loss dropped the Panthers to 3-5 overall and 0-1 in the Horizon, a record that is indicative of a disappointing start to the year given expectations coming in.
Green Bay, which won only three games all of last season, picked up its fourth win of the year already under first-year head coach Sundance Wicks.
Markeith Browning led the Panthers in scoring with 25 points after averaging only six per game coming in, but Milwaukee on the whole was unable to replace the offense it was missing with Freeman sidelined.
"Markeith was a good playmaker for us, he really got to the basket," Panthers head coach Bart Lundy said. "He really broke their defensive shell. I thought he really competed."
The Panthers aside from Browning shot 13 for 35 (37%) from the field and missed seven of 10 free throws.
The next-highest scorer was Elijah Jamison with eight points.
"We have other guys and I thought for the most part we got good shots," Lundy said. "We didn’t share the ball as well as we’d like, but I thought we just didn’t make shots and we had open ones."
Milwaukee’s offense wasn’t all bad. It shot 44.9% from the field – it entered the day under 40% for the season – but hit only 5 of 17 threes and went 50% from the free throw line on 18 attempts. The Panthers pulled down offensive rebounds on 11 of their 33 misses but were only able to turn those into seven second-chance points.
Meanwhile, the Phoenix torched the Panthers from deep, hitting 12 of 26 threes, including nine in the first half as they pulled out to a 39-25 lead after 20 minutes.
"I didn’t think we pressured their shooters as well as we needed to in the first half," Lundy said. "They hit a couple in the second half that were on broken floors against our press and that was it. If we had that type of intensity in the first half, they probably don’t make nine.
"They made shots but (the problem) was us."
Milwaukee jumped out to a quick 13-7 lead through five minutes but a 14-3 Green Bay run flipped the lead for good.
After Browning scored on a layup to draw within 26-23 with 5:37 to go in the half, Will Eames, Noah Reynolds and Rich Bhyre each drained a three-pointer during an 11-0 Phoenix run to go ahead by 14.
The Panthers found a rhythm on defense out of intermission, allowing just one field goal in the first seven minutes of the second half, but had dug such a grand deficit for themselves that a 9-0 run could only cut the deficit to eight.
They never got any closer than seven points down the rest of the way, and even that margin didn’t last one defensive possession.
The Phoenix buried the Panthers with balance. Reynolds scored 17 points on 7 for 13 shooting and added eight assists to lead the host’s attack. Oshkosh Lourdes graduate Preston Ruedinger and Foster Wonders scored 12 points apiece, Catholic Memorial graduate Rich Byrhre added 10 and Clarence Cummings had nine.
It was the second straight time Green Bay defeated Milwaukee, going back to a stunning upset at the Panther Arena in February.
The Panthers return to the floor Wednesday at St. Thomas (MN), though it's unclear if Freeman will suit up.
"He has an injury," Lundy said. "And he’s going to be out for a period of time."
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Post by Cactus Panther on Dec 3, 2023 0:46:23 GMT -6
Need a good reason why Pratt didn't play He did play two minutes in the first half. After the prior game, Bart Lundy simply said he did not play because of a "coaches decision." I assume his playing time was limited against GB for the same reason. Sounds like the dog house to me.
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Post by Petes on Dec 3, 2023 2:31:43 GMT -6
Need a good reason why Pratt didn't play He did play two minutes in the first half. After the prior game, Bart Lundy simply said he did not play because of a "coaches decision." I assume his playing time was limited against GB for the same reason. Sounds like the dog house to me. “He doesn’t play good enough defense…” when you have the 349th beat defense why does it matter if a guy is a little worse than the others? We can’t stop a walk-on point guard transfer from Valparaiso so I don’t see why it matters.
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Post by tyrunner0097 on Dec 3, 2023 8:26:18 GMT -6
"We didn’t share the ball as well as we’d like, but I thought we just didn’t make shots and we had open ones." I'm sorry Bart, but we can't keep going on with this chuck-n-duck, live by the 3 die by the 3. We're dying EVERY GAME with this strategy.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 3, 2023 8:53:25 GMT -6
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Bart coaches defense like Adrian Griffin ... and he doesn't have Giannis, Damian, MarJon, Khris, Beasley, Bobby, Connaughton, etc. to bail him out.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 3, 2023 9:35:13 GMT -6
Have any of you guys glanced at our shooting or defensive stats or ratings this morning? It's like turning on the horror channel!!!
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Dec 3, 2023 10:19:11 GMT -6
I agree with this in terms of player development. On our long drive home tonight, we were wondering what exactly our assistant coaches do. There is zero fire in any of them on the bench during the games. In timeouts they just aimlessly look at each other while Bart draws stuff up on the whiteboard. Time will tell if the staff has what it takes. Year 1 was over performance. Year 2 looks to be under performance. Head scratcher for sure. Well one of them gets teched up in close games. I believe hes also the holds the board so our guys know who they are guarding on defense lol.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 10:43:52 GMT -6
"If we had that type of intensity in the FIRST HALF, they probably don’t make nine." Green Bay dominates Panthers, another L in the books (can we still bounce back?)www.milwaukeepanthertracks.com/2023/12/green-bay-dominates-panthers-another-l.htmlI am very much hoping that @pantheru and buppie05 and the other few not panicking are right on that there is so much time left that to worry so much rn is pretty silly. We gotta turn this around, Panther Nation. But rn it looks bad from all angles. We haven't put together sh*t yet. I think that the rotation needs to shrink and stabilize (give max minutes to max producers) and that the 5-8 guys we play most in that smaller rotation need to resolve to playing structured offense and defense (coached better by the staff). Our defense is embarrassing. Our offense only works in spurts.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Dec 3, 2023 13:36:55 GMT -6
I’m still very angry about last night. I really hope the team is too.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 3, 2023 13:57:48 GMT -6
I’m still very angry about the game last night. ... and about the postgame altercation when they called us blankety-blanks! When is this team going to get ANGRY?!?!
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