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Post by FTA1982 on Nov 26, 2023 10:48:18 GMT -6
We can speculate all we want about who at the university is ultimately responsible for non-conference scheduling until and unless the backroom secrets are openly and honestly revealed. What is making scheduling so difficult that results in the head coach apologizing and criticizing it? The lack of transparency regarding scheduling can lead us to all types of innuendo, including unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. If we fans we are way off base regarding this issue, it is because we have no valid information to rely on, as it seems scheduling shouldn't be that hard. We only have the eye test. And please, no "nobody wants to play us" excuse. That's code for "next question, please." All I know is Mike Winans is in charge of the scheduling.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Nov 26, 2023 11:20:17 GMT -6
I don’t like these lazy excuses Lundy is making. I understand not liking the travel, but welcome to life as a D-1 mid major. Every team in our conference travels more than they would like to. Nobody in our conference has been as bad in the non conference as Milwaukee.
I’d respect him more if he simply said “we didn’t play well today. That’s unacceptable. The team needs to be better. I need to be better. No excuses.”
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Post by thetruth on Nov 26, 2023 11:32:30 GMT -6
Rob Jeter never had issues scheduling Midwest high-level mid-major teams. Heck, we even played Midwest programs under Baldwin. During his tenure, we played Iowa State, Western Illinois, Belmont, Loyola, Western Michigan, North Dakota, Cincinnati, Drake, UMKC, Eastern Illinois, Kansas, Kansas State, Eastern Kentucky, Wisconsin.
I get this team was projected to be better than any of Baldwin's teams, but still, don't tell me you can't find any Midwest non-conference games.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 26, 2023 12:00:33 GMT -6
I don’t like these lazy excuses Lundy is making. I understand not liking the travel, but welcome to life as a D-1 mid major. Every team in our conference travels more than they would like to. Nobody in our conference has been as bad in the non conference as Milwaukee. I’d respect him more if he simply said “we didn’t play well today. That’s unacceptable. The team needs to be better. I need to be better. No excuses.” Save and paste. These excuses come across as wishy-washy and not especially authoritarive.
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Post by PantherU on Nov 26, 2023 16:18:05 GMT -6
Rob Jeter never had issues scheduling Midwest high-level mid-major teams. Heck, we even played Midwest programs under Baldwin. During his tenure, we played Iowa State, Western Illinois, Belmont, Loyola, Western Michigan, North Dakota, Cincinnati, Drake, UMKC, Eastern Illinois, Kansas, Kansas State, Eastern Kentucky, Wisconsin. I get this team was projected to be better than any of Baldwin's teams, but still, don't tell me you can't find any Midwest non-conference games. Conferences are larger and therefore have fewer non-conference dates. Not saying it's impossible, but it's a harder job than it was 10 years ago and it was hard as hell 10 years ago.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Nov 26, 2023 20:44:31 GMT -6
I don’t like these lazy excuses Lundy is making. I understand not liking the travel, but welcome to life as a D-1 mid major. Every team in our conference travels more than they would like to. Nobody in our conference has been as bad in the non conference as Milwaukee. I’d respect him more if he simply said “we didn’t play well today. That’s unacceptable. The team needs to be better. I need to be better. No excuses.” Yes. Bart has not lost much as a head coach. It appears he does not know how to lose. Bart came here with a reputation of being a winner. He can maintain that reputation in an occasional losing year using DTP's script. Using excuses like travel is losers mentality. If the Panthers struggle at GB next week, will it be because of too many potholes on I-43? I'm already concerned about the game at UC-Davis. With the players hearing how tough distant travel into another time zone is, will they approach the game with a self-defeatist attitude? The tough teams don't let things like travel, altitude, arena environment, three games in a week, etc. get in their heads.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Nov 26, 2023 21:06:20 GMT -6
We can speculate all we want about who at the university is ultimately responsible for non-conference scheduling until and unless the backroom secrets are openly and honestly revealed. What is making scheduling so difficult that results in the head coach apologizing and criticizing it? The lack of transparency regarding scheduling can lead us to all types of innuendo, including unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. If we fans we are way off base regarding this issue, it is because we have no valid information to rely on, as it seems scheduling shouldn't be that hard. We only have the eye test. And please, no "nobody wants to play us" excuse. That's code for "next question, please." All I know is Mike Winans is in charge of the scheduling. Is he really in charge of scheduling? Or is he in charge of the administration of scheduling? I would like to know who the buck truly stops with and understand the challenges/obstacles/limitations they face.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 26, 2023 21:42:17 GMT -6
Agree with DTP and CP. This program needs a paradigm shift.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 26, 2023 21:58:36 GMT -6
Non-conference games shouldn't be seen as an inconvenience, but as an opportunity.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 27, 2023 8:54:17 GMT -6
Not really sure what the issue is in the schedule. Went to Rhode Island, no big deal. Then, went out to Colorado. Sure, that can be rough, came home. Play a non-D1 on that Friday. Then went down to warm Florida for 2 days.
Lundy also talks about wanting more home games. You feel he wants to be the Jim Boeheim of the schedule. Never leave the state.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 27, 2023 12:01:35 GMT -6
Not really sure what the issue is in the schedule. Went to Rhode Island, no big deal. Then, went out to Colorado. Sure, that can be rough, came home. Plan a non-D1 on that Friday. Them went down to warm Florida for 2 days. Lundy also talks about wanting more home game. You feel he wants to be the Jim Boeheim of the schedule. Never leave the state. Love this post. It's not the Wagon Trail days! Our players are 18 to 24 years old for crying out loud!
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Post by Cactus Panther on Nov 27, 2023 15:06:49 GMT -6
Rob Jeter never had issues scheduling Midwest high-level mid-major teams. Heck, we even played Midwest programs under Baldwin. During his tenure, we played Iowa State, Western Illinois, Belmont, Loyola, Western Michigan, North Dakota, Cincinnati, Drake, UMKC, Eastern Illinois, Kansas, Kansas State, Eastern Kentucky, Wisconsin. I get this team was projected to be better than any of Baldwin's teams, but still, don't tell me you can't find any Midwest non-conference games. Conferences are larger and therefore have fewer non-conference dates. Not saying it's impossible, but it's a harder job than it was 10 years ago and it was hard as hell 10 years ago. There are fewer non-conference games, so why are there as many non-D1 games on the schedule as ever? Five in the last two seasons. And even those have less appeal than ever, all D3 or NAIA. Shouldn't those be the first ones to drop off the schedule? Expanding on what GoD stated in a recent post, the thought that non-conference scheduling is so hard these days should be viewed as an opportunity. It is just as hard for other nearby peer programs such as UIC, Valpo, NIU, WMU, UNI, etc. Get together with some of them on home and homes. Expanding on what PNP stated, why is playing Cardinal Stritch and Luther at home in back to back seasons better for the program than playing a home and home with say, UIC? Yes, it is hard for those involved with scheduling, that is why they call it work. Let's sell these home and homes to peer programs, not just wait until late in the offseason and take whatever scraps are left. If current individuals in the program are not capable or unwilling, get someone who is. I repeat my disclaimer - we have not had an honest, transparent detailed explanation of how scheduling works for this program. Until we do have the facts, we are left to speculate and form opinions like this.
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Post by buppie05 on Nov 27, 2023 15:46:52 GMT -6
Conferences are larger and therefore have fewer non-conference dates. Not saying it's impossible, but it's a harder job than it was 10 years ago and it was hard as hell 10 years ago. There are fewer non-conference games, so why are there as many non-D1 games on the schedule as ever? Five in the last two seasons. And even those have less appeal than ever, all D3 or NAIA. Shouldn't those be the first ones to drop off the schedule? Expanding on what GoD stated in a recent post, the thought that non-conference scheduling is so hard these days should be viewed as an opportunity. It is just as hard for other nearby peer programs such as UIC, Valpo, NIU, WMU, UNI, etc. Get together with some of them on home and homes. Expanding on what PNP stated, why is playing Cardinal Stritch and Luther at home in back to back seasons better for the program than playing a home and home with say, UIC? Yes, it is hard for those involved with scheduling, that is why they call it work. Let's sell these home and homes to peer programs, not just wait until late in the offseason and take whatever scraps are left. If current individuals in the program are not capable or unwilling, get someone who is. I repeat my disclaimer - we have not had an honest, transparent detailed explanation of how scheduling works for this program. Until we do have the facts, we are left to speculate and form opinions like this. There most certainly is an explanation we aren’t privy to. Just look at the peer teams we had closed door scrimmages with. Why couldn’t those be games ?
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 27, 2023 15:56:37 GMT -6
There are fewer non-conference games, so why are there as many non-D1 games on the schedule as ever? Five in the last two seasons. And even those have less appeal than ever, all D3 or NAIA. Shouldn't those be the first ones to drop off the schedule? Expanding on what GoD stated in a recent post, the thought that non-conference scheduling is so hard these days should be viewed as an opportunity. It is just as hard for other nearby peer programs such as UIC, Valpo, NIU, WMU, UNI, etc. Get together with some of them on home and homes. Expanding on what PNP stated, why is playing Cardinal Stritch and Luther at home in back to back seasons better for the program than playing a home and home with say, UIC? Yes, it is hard for those involved with scheduling, that is why they call it work. Let's sell these home and homes to peer programs, not just wait until late in the offseason and take whatever scraps are left. If current individuals in the program are not capable or unwilling, get someone who is. I repeat my disclaimer - we have not had an honest, transparent detailed explanation of how scheduling works for this program. Until we do have the facts, we are left to speculate and form opinions like this. There most certainly is an explanation we aren’t privy to. Just look at the peer teams we had closed door scrimmages with. Why couldn’t those be games? Mic drop!
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Nov 27, 2023 16:42:12 GMT -6
I cant believe people put any stock in joint practices and be like why arent those games. They arent even close to the same things. Next thing im gonna be hearing about Zac Howell hitting jumpers over a chair or some sh*t.
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