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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 14, 2014 7:25:38 GMT -6
If this does get done, and we are stuck playing back at the Klotsche, I pledge to never set foot in the new NBA palace, ever. That's an easy one, given that I never set foot in the place now. The last time I was there, in fact, was the Milwaukee-Marquette game when Ryan Allen had 16 points, 13 rebounds and 6 blocked shots (officially). My worry is that far too few fans will come back to Klotsche and that 17-year-old recruits will never see it a second time ... until and unless they visit it as an opposing player. ... and then there's the matter of the 6,500 folks who will want to attend their child's/nephew's/niece's/sister's/brother's graduation ceremony.
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Post by JG Panthers on Nov 14, 2014 7:46:34 GMT -6
maybe the Bucks will lend us their go-go girls Be careful now. Those girls aren't responsible for this, and they have families too. Many of them are UWM girls themselves.
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Post by BBFran on Nov 14, 2014 10:12:39 GMT -6
JG, I think you may have slightly missed the point I was making. So to be clear, if the Arena comes down and is replaced by the Taj Mahal, that venue will be totally inappropriate for any of the University's events, athletic or academic.
I hope people truly understand this. Large University events will literally be out on the street. The Arena has actually been home to the University's academic exercises as much as to men's basketball -- and more consistently. This is a looming DISASTER.
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Post by nickpanther on Nov 14, 2014 21:30:45 GMT -6
obviously i'd rather have the arena stay. its good enough for the Wave and Panthers, and frankly the area north of the BC should be the site of the new place with the site of the bc being use for parking. i would think UWM would sue to stop the Arena being torn down.
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Post by jhart05 on Nov 14, 2014 22:13:21 GMT -6
SPEAK UP to your legislators and elected leaders NOW. Done.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 18, 2014 8:34:45 GMT -6
Oddly, the Journal-Sentinel has still not published any photos of the newly renovated UWM Panther Arena.
It's almost as if the paper wants people to believe that the place is dilapidated and needs to be torn down.
But that couldn't be, right?
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Post by BBFran on Nov 18, 2014 9:15:26 GMT -6
Wonderful editorial in the JS yesterday about how inappropriate it was for Mr. Vos to inject -- heavens -- politics into the discussion WHILE AGAIN NOT MENTIONING THE JS'S FINANCIAL INTEREST IN DESTROYING THE ARENA AND KICKING THE UNIVERSITY TO THE CURB.
But why should we expect the Milwaukee area's news monopoly to report the news in an unconflicted way? We are, after all, just sheep. Right?
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 18, 2014 10:31:38 GMT -6
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Post by BBFran on Nov 18, 2014 12:11:22 GMT -6
"Even though we don't have a confirmed location, we value our relationship with UWM and feel it's important to have an open dialogue with all the key stakeholders," Suski said. "We believe this is an opportunity to do something transformative that will positively impact every organization in the city."
Weasel words. If they value their relationship with UWM then they should stop threatening to harm the University by tearing down the UWMilwaukee Panther Arena when there are multiple perfectly good alternative sites available. They can prove they value the relationship VERY easily -- by announcing they will NOT seek to destroy the UWMilwaukee Panther Arena.
You can't "value your relationship" and simultaneously gut our program and thwart our institution. The Bucks are on notice; if they decide to move ahead to try to destroy the Panther Arena, every stakeholder in the University needs to "value" his or her relationship with the Bucks in EXACTLY the same way -- by doing everything possible to make them fail in every way possible.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 18, 2014 12:15:19 GMT -6
I sure would love to read the word "fight" in statements by university officials.
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Post by GB BB is Back! on Nov 18, 2014 14:16:34 GMT -6
I don't want this taken as a trolling statement so I'll tread lightly. It seems the stunt Andy Geiger pulled a couple years ago continues to haunt your school. By pulling out of the then US Cellular Arena, he sent a (incorrect) message to the power brokers of Milwaukee that this building was irrelivent to the school.
By only returning for a greatly reduced lease, it may have inadvertently sent a similar message. It put a price tag on how the school values the arena, and that price was set pretty low.
The teams attendance also doesn't help its cause. Your fans will need to show up triple Wednesday night from the number that attended last nights game to show a need for the building. Drawing under 2,000 (like last night) at an 11,000 seat venue unfortunately hurts your cause.
I hope some type of positive solution is found. Green Bay and Milwaukee are linked together as a voice in this conference. At some point conference expansion will happen, and it needs to be a move that helps the Wisconsin teams. A weakened UWM lowers our collective voice at the negotiating table. I wish you the best of luck, though I admit I'm also excited for a new Arena in your city, as I've been to Bucks games, high school games and concerts at the BC. I would also like to attend Phoenix/Panthers games in Milwaukee in the future, but those tickets would be impossible to get if games moved to your present on campus venue.
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Post by BBFran on Nov 18, 2014 14:40:59 GMT -6
There is no doubt that the move to the Klotsche was extremely counterproductive, but that's history. We are back where we should be. This program averaged about 5,000 a game not long ago in the Arena (and by the way, its configuration for Milwaukee basketball is about 7000 seats, not 11,000). With the upswing in the talent on the roster and the recent success of the team there's no reason that can't happen again. What we pull for IUPUI in a meaningless non-con game on a frigid Wednesday night in November will have no influence on the discussion.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Nov 18, 2014 20:23:21 GMT -6
www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2014/11/18/uwm-bucks-striving-to-keep-panthers-downtown-says.htmlAccording to this article, UWM seems somewhat optimistic that even if the Panther Arena is torn down, they would still have a "presence" downtown. My big question with regards to this is what exactly a "presence" is. If it means that a new 7,000 + seat arena is built, perhaps in conjunction with the Bucks' new arena, that would make me feel ok. Keeping the Panther Arena, to me, is the most preferable option, but if the Panthers have a home that would be suitable for a mid-major program with potential to grow, I'd feel ok about it. My fear is that a "presence" could be a game or two (or even half of the schedule) played at the Bucks' new arena as the fourth of fifth tenant. The Panthers need a permanent home, and the term "presence" is very ambiguous... especially if it's UWM saying it and not the Bucks.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 18, 2014 20:30:25 GMT -6
www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2014/11/18/uwm-bucks-striving-to-keep-panthers-downtown-says.htmlAccording to this article, UWM seems somewhat optimistic that even if the Panther Arena is torn down, they would still have a "presence" downtown. My big question with regards to this is what exactly a "presence" is. If it means that a new 7,000 + seat arena is built, perhaps in conjunction with the Bucks' new arena, that would make me feel ok. Keeping the Panther Arena, to me, is the most preferable option, but if the Panthers have a home that would be suitable for a mid-major program with potential to grow, I'd feel ok about it. My fear is that a "presence" could be a game or two (or even half of the schedule) played at the Bucks' new arena as the fourth of fifth tenant. The Panthers need a permanent home, and the term "presence" is very ambiguous... especially if it's UWM saying it and not the Bucks. This is all such a pipedream. If he really, truly believes this, I've got some marvelous farmland in Shorewood to sell him. Here are the current realistic options: The Arena or the Klotsche Center. That's it.
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Post by A Statement By SHAUN on Nov 19, 2014 5:59:31 GMT -6
So to be clear: us fighting for the arena is the same thing as saying that it will be our permanent home, correct? As in, we will not build our own arena ever?
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