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Feb 24, 2005 13:51:17 GMT -6
Post by nohopspanther on Feb 24, 2005 13:51:17 GMT -6
What rival hopes for a good game rather than a bloodbath smashing of their hated opponent? Second, since when does that affect how many people watch a game when it's a real rivalry and the intensity of the fans? The Packers have owned the Bears for a decade, do you wish the Bears would make a game of it? Now that would be stupid! All those who didn't enjoy watching the Pack go into Soldier Field and waste them on the final game this year raise your hand.
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Feb 24, 2005 14:35:57 GMT -6
Post by dunzz on Feb 24, 2005 14:35:57 GMT -6
off your first question. 1. the student section does not feel that gb is our rivals. nor do i care to make them our rivlas. there fore there is no real hope for a rivarly. we have bigger and better fish to frye in order to make a rival. 2. since most UWM fans despise Gb a blood bath feels great. especially when its an inner state team. additioanlly, the more dominance we have in state such as blood baths better for instate recruiting something UWM has not done such a good job of. ie. when speaking to a recruit our progam can claim, "you could go to gb but gb lost to uwm by 30" now the counter to this is, yeah but gb beat UWM. but still , when it comes to compeition a recruit is more likly to be warm to a team that won by 30 and lost by 4 rather than won by 4 and lost by 30. 3. If UWM dominates other news papers in other areas will have to print that. and that looks better than winning by 4.
off your second question
1. gb is not our rival. man alive. 2. rivals change over time. the packers used to be rivals with the bears, however, the packers are rivals with the vikings. and yes, the type of media coverage is different for the packers v vikings than packers v bears. the packers played the vikings on national television, while the bears were a day game for the region. so even though you raise the same ole question it doesnt apply bc gb is not our rival and the packers and the packers fans have got a new rival. 3. if you use the packers as your standard then you are wrong about how rivals works. and it will prove that gb is not our rival. first of all the packers usually end up having go through the viks to ensure nfc champ or play off berth. Thus we have to beat them. We do not have to beat the bears to gurantee play off berth. rivarlies are sparked mostly by teams needing to beat each other , in consecutive years in order to go onto the post season. 4. now to go off your standard. the viks and packs have made two great games this year. which only feeds into my argument that the bears are nobodies and the viks are our rivals. but that also strenghtens your argument that rivarly games are good only when they are close. but i had to make that argument for you. which only reflects on your argument. 5. i dont really enjoy watching football to begin with and i would rather stick to college hoops. mostly bc there are different standards to how college basketball and how football teams become rivals. except for one golden standard all sports teams usually hate each other bc of point 3. not your point that the game is played close. 6. taking a poll of who will rather watch a close game between the bears and pack does not even come close to the subject at hand. maybe you should ask. would you rather see gb and the panthers play a close game. stay on topic. this isnt football. in that instance i would love to see us bash the hell out of gb. not bc we are rivals but bc i just despise gb.
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Feb 24, 2005 15:47:22 GMT -6
Post by dutchpthr on Feb 24, 2005 15:47:22 GMT -6
Dutchpthr..... You really seem like a great guy. I haven't once personally attacked anyone on this board, yet for some reason you feel the need to? That's so nice of you guys to have an open board, but as soon as someone disagrees with you, you make them feel not welcome. that's the whole point of a discussion board isn't it? All I was saying was open your minds a little bit, create a in state rivalry. of course i am not for seeing gb beat uwm, but wouldn't it be nice if the game meant something? i never once said any sucess that gb should have should come at the expense of uwm. my simply question had the ability to piss you off this bad, im sorry.... that's not my problem. You can't tell me that everytime the two rival teams play, the fans aren't hoping for a good game. if it was a blow out all the time, no one would watch. You are hooked on the fact that i used a geographical reference to the two schools. let that go, I am talking about some wisconsin pride. sending 4 teams to the dance. everyone playing good ball, getting good press, and everyone having a damn good time. but what's my point of view worth anyway? it wouldn't even be taken into consideration. And god forbid you spell something wrong... Go Panthers BBall30, look man i wasn't trying to personal attack you, if thats the way you took it my bad sorry, but i guess i just don't agree with your post or the question that you are trying to bring up with it. I think the 2 games vs. GB do have meaning, meaning in the sense that not only is it a conference rival (granted not to the degree of UIC IMO) but also for the fact to some degree we (UWM & UWGB) are trying to go after the same in state guys to get to come to our respective programs. It just so happens that at the moment we are the better program between us and GB(even though yes they beat us in GB, their biggest win of the year IMO).I guess also your idea for us to root for them to win though just cuz they are an in state school i just can not agree with, to me that is like asking me to root for Marquette cuz they are an in state school, sorry ain't gonna happen not any time soon. So do you see my point with the rebute to your notion? I got nothing against GB or UW, MU is another story but that is done and over anyway, so yes that would be nice to have of the programs as an overall be given that equal amount of press that they deserve but we should know that isn't going to happen anytime soon, since the JS caters to both UW and MU. That was really the reasoning for my post, like i said wasn't meant to be mena spirited towards you or anything i guess after reading what i wrote i should have maybe phrased it differently, like i said before sorry for that, and really the only posters that i actually do try to give a hard time to on purpsoe are UIC ones anyway (just want to clearify that was heavy sarcasum UIC people)so anyway sorry if you felt attacked, i was just trying to counter your idea with reasons why i don't agree with it. Oh and i'm not in any way trying to tell you to actually leave the board, i agree with you that having an open discussion board does make things interesting but i guess in this situation it can also make them complicated.
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Feb 27, 2005 9:35:50 GMT -6
Post by mcdadenets50 on Feb 27, 2005 9:35:50 GMT -6
I hope GB goes 3 - 25 every year with 30 point victories over UW and home and away thrashings of UIC.
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Feb 27, 2005 15:03:49 GMT -6
Post by Hack on Feb 27, 2005 15:03:49 GMT -6
The UWGB downward spiral continues ... about to lose at Wright State. Nothing like losing 4 of your last 5 for momentum into the tournament.
UWM ended up winning the conference by 5 games ... 4 more victories plus UWM would own a tiebreaker over UWGB.
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Feb 27, 2005 16:12:30 GMT -6
Post by jvaldon on Feb 27, 2005 16:12:30 GMT -6
Wrigth State - 94 @ Green Bay - 80
talk about sucking it up down the stretch. i dont think anyone is scared of green bay in the tournament anymore
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Feb 27, 2005 22:44:55 GMT -6
Post by uwfenske aka hardhat on Feb 27, 2005 22:44:55 GMT -6
wow. that is a tough one. (there is my sympathetic, too bad, shucky darn for the state team)
But how true, I can't decide who I 'want' to see in the finals. Before anyone jumps on me for expecting be there, I know what I just said. It's a confidence thing of our HL record, playing at home and being a rampant UWM fan. Ok, I hope that covers me for expecting to be in the finals ;D
Soo many teams can be dangerous or jokingly bad on a given night
I will move the analysis of why I fear/want teams to a different thread.
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Feb 28, 2005 14:21:16 GMT -6
Post by FLAMERimNOTone on Feb 28, 2005 14:21:16 GMT -6
personally i would love to see 4 WI teams in the tourney.
BUT(and i do mean BUT) it will not happen, unless we get an at large and they win the tourney! so i dont want to cheer on any other team in the horizon except for UWM.
the only time i will EVER cheer on another team from the horizon is when it will benafit UWM. and I havent seen a need to do so for GB all year so, GO UWM and i wish GB good luck in the NIT that is all ;D
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Feb 28, 2005 14:24:09 GMT -6
Post by Hack on Feb 28, 2005 14:24:09 GMT -6
i wish GB good luck in the NIT that is all ;D They won't get there. GB needed at least 20 wins to get in ... and that's not going to happen. Losing so often down the stretch eliminated their chance.
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Mar 2, 2005 0:15:49 GMT -6
Post by WiscStHoopsFan on Mar 2, 2005 0:15:49 GMT -6
Here's my take about UWGB overall - uwmfreak.proboards5.com/index.cgi?board=cool&action=display&n=1&thread=1107586806I posted this maybe like a week after the last UWM vs. UWGB b-ball game. dutchpthr and Milwaukee's Best already replied to this (thanks). For the rest of you on this post - let me know what you think, biased or unbiased! See y'all at the Cell on Saturday. For those of you planning on drinking before the game, just a warning...going 2+ hours without a brew will literally be a living hell! B.T.W. - Where is this "craptacular" b-board of UWGB's?
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dutchpthr
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Mar 2, 2005 0:48:24 GMT -6
Post by dutchpthr on Mar 2, 2005 0:48:24 GMT -6
here is a link to their discussion board (not really sure if you can even call it that though uwgbphoenix.com/
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