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Post by pnthr97 on Oct 24, 2005 9:15:39 GMT -6
Ok, how bout we change topics to the team itself Has anyone had a chance to watch a practice? If so, can you elaborate on the focuses? What style of play should we be expecting? Any insight at all? I know RJ has talked about playing up tempo, but what about defensive schemes, etc.? I hope someone can shed some light on what they've seen (or heard from an informed source). Thanks.
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Post by Hack on Oct 24, 2005 9:18:09 GMT -6
E-mail Bobbi Roquemore. Maybe she can fill us in.
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Post by BBFran on Oct 24, 2005 11:25:54 GMT -6
I have not had a chance to talk to Coach Jeter yet, but when I do I am really hoping to be able to ask him to what extent he intends to continue the "Iowa" pressure approach. (Extreme pressure on the inbound and to half court, then a quick drop into good fundamental half-court D that Bruce coached so well.) It's not antithetical to the Bo Ryan approach (in fact Bo has coached variations of it over the years) but it's not been in use by Jeter and Ryan in their six years in D1. On the other hand, this team is built for it.
On offense, I'm sure we'll see Swing principles come into play, particularly the importance of touching the post on every possession and putting the other teams in a defensive "discomfort" zone that will lead to more fouls on them and more free throws for us. Consequently, we'll see fewer three point shots jacked up early in the clock. That's probably okay, given that Ed McCants was the true game changing threat in that regard. I will be very interested to see Joah and Boo posting up. With their strength I think they could be terrific at it. And Adrian was born (and in fact, recruited) for this offense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2005 12:26:00 GMT -6
I think RJ is going to try to put his own stamp on the program with his own ideas (swing off), however I'm a bit worried that the players may not buy into it because of the style that they are used to and like, which is a frantic playground style. Sure will be exciting to watch and see in the coming weeks.
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Post by BBFran on Oct 24, 2005 12:52:56 GMT -6
With the exception of shooting threes early, I never saw the Pearl system as "playground." In fact, what was so impressive about it was the discipline on both O and D. To run a press effectively without exposing yourself requires great discipline. Moreover, on offense we had a very nice motion approach, although the players had a bit more freedom than they do in the swing. There might be a noticeable change in pace, but it will hardly go from fast-break basketball to slow-down basketball, because UWM really didn't play fast-break (think Loyola Marymount) and Bo Ryan doesn't play anything resembling slow-down (think Dick Bennett). You are right that there could be some issues in transitioning from Pearl's approach to Jeter's, even though the changes won't be radical. I think what will overcome those issues is the fact that our squad is very mature, and that in fact two of our most important team leaders (Tigert and Hill) were actually recruited by Robbie in the first place. So he will have had a lot of credibility with the team right off the bat. Having said that, I have heard that some of the players were a little surprised by the intensity and expectations Rob has for conditioning and practice -- and when they would be conditioning and practicing. Nothing some good alarm clocks won't cure.
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Post by pnthr30 on Oct 24, 2005 13:43:08 GMT -6
I think RJ is going to try to put his own stamp on the program with his own ideas (swing off), however I'm a bit worried that the players may not buy into it because of the style that they are used to and like, which is a frantic playground style. Sure will be exciting to watch and see in the coming weeks. I agree with BBFran on this one........while the offense that BP ran allowed some "freedom" it certainly wasn't a playground style. There were certain points/situations that allowed for players to break off sets and go into a one-on-one mentality. However, this was usually due to a match up, a player that was hot, something seen from the bench, to exploit something/someone, or to set something up. Basically, while the offense looked helter skelter, it was far more calculated that it appeared at first blush. Likewise, although the defense may have appeared random and chaotic, was very calculated and required a great deal of discipline. IMHO, the style that BP lives by is VERY difficult to coach successfully - in that you have to have players who understand the fine line between playing hard, frantic, and fast, but still remaining in the "system" and in control.
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Post by PANTHERfan on Oct 24, 2005 13:53:01 GMT -6
i'm most eager to see what sort of half court offense develops. IMO, if there was any area we could have used improvement last year that was it. with our best 3 point shooter gone we'll have to wait and see how our perimeter game develops. though if the scouts have it right, it sounds like Young could slip right into that role. if we're able to maintain the same three point threat and implement an even more effective half court set that would be exciting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2005 14:00:02 GMT -6
Let me be clear, I was not saying that Pearl's style was not difficult to coach, but his style was more frantic and up tempo as oppossed to the majority of college programs(many consider that a run and gun playground mentality, I have talked to several local city high school coaches who also called pearl's style more of a playgorund mentality because his style is seen mostly in the urban playgrounds). That doesn't mean he didn't have an offense with set plays or defensive sets with schemes.
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Post by pnthr30 on Oct 24, 2005 14:13:13 GMT -6
I hear what you are saying, now......I initally took it as: playground = no structure, no discipline, no sets, etc. (i.e. roll out the balls and play) For those of you old enough to remember, Steve A. and Ric coached a true "playground" game.
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Post by hardhatfenske on Oct 24, 2005 15:12:15 GMT -6
Did Ric, and I love the guy, really 'coach' a 'style'. I frankly remember some good pre-game talks that more or less sounded like, let's not go get beat by 40 this game.
I am looking forward to see the swing, or a variatle of it, this season. If Young, or another 3 point shot maker, and be smart enough to read the flex cut off the high screen... there is a great possibility for many points out on the perimeter.
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Post by pnthr30 on Oct 24, 2005 15:51:34 GMT -6
You, my friend, are correct. I most definitely used the terms "coach" and "style" very loosly in my previous post. ;D
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