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Post by bigjim98 on Mar 31, 2005 20:26:42 GMT -6
You are paranoid regarding the regents and misinformed....though the big-10 is untouchable this self-inflicted mid-major attitude will keep uwm as a stepping stone for coaches and a back-up fror legit ballers...we have come along way in 15 years.....by aggressively pushing to the next level....
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Post by CreamCity on Mar 31, 2005 20:37:04 GMT -6
Just put this up on another related thread, but it seems related here, too. I tend to agree. The Board of Regents is pretty friendly to UWM these days. The post below is regarding a name change. But I think it applies to potential for a conference change, too.
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I'm such a longtime UWM alum that I can tell you that a chancellor tried to get the okay for the University of Milwaukee in the '70s. And it got good local media support. But, yes, the UW Board of Regents seemed to be the ones behind putting a stop to it.
But that was then, this is now, and the Board of Regents has more Milwaukee members on it now.
But if it's going to happen, it ought to start fast, and under the current governor, the one who put most of the Milwaukee members on the Board. (After the governor who said he wanted to "stick it to Milwaukee" went to D.C.) If the current governor doesn't get re-elected -- in 2006, I think -- the Board could change again. And probably not for the better for Milwaukee.
I bet Milwaukee business would be behind it. Start with the companies that lit up the UWM in the skyscraper -- and on the west side facing Marquette.
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Post by bigjim98 on Mar 31, 2005 20:39:53 GMT -6
They are driven by $$$$$$$ and politics .....many uwm alum were huge fund raisers for Doyle.....our team is not midmajor material....SWEET 16 MOFO
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Post by pnthr97 on Mar 31, 2005 21:09:13 GMT -6
one sweet 16 does not change our mid major status
is butler still a mid major? yes is kent state still a mid major? yes
the list goes on and on. until we're consistently in the top 25, a la, gonzaga, we're a mid-major.
Conference USA is impossible due to football, as is the MAC for the same reason. The only conference to switch to right now is the MVC, but it doesn't make sense demo/geographically.
Until a "Super Mid-Major" Basketball conference is put together, we're in the Horizon.
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Post by bigjim98 on Mar 31, 2005 21:11:18 GMT -6
my point is to use the cusa model...choose to win
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Post by pnthr97 on Mar 31, 2005 21:14:32 GMT -6
I agree with the "choose to win" part, but it will definitely be a long time before we see another conference started. IMO, we're "stuck" in the Horizon for at least the next 3-5 years.
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Post by bigjim98 on Mar 31, 2005 21:23:43 GMT -6
you may be correct...I certainly don't want to be argumentive.....I tip my hat to all that support this site.....it's great. You may be right about the time span but that conference was not built overnight...it's the only model available to us, IMO, because of the distance between us and other good programs.( please see distance between cusa charter members) Our time to start is now because of the emotional bank account we have built up on so manyt levels and the current political climate in Madison. The governor's election was financed by some east siders, who also happen to be huge UWM donor's, though something like this must come from fans, students and bball program b4 the money matters....if we want it in 3-5.....we must start now....EAT BIG.....THINK BIG....BE BIG....
like it or not the panthers on the way to the top....
CBP was interviewing for weeks.....
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Second best is the first loser
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Post by Womack on Apr 1, 2005 2:07:00 GMT -6
I'll echo Hoffmans thoughts on that one
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Post by PantherFanTKE on Apr 1, 2005 12:26:29 GMT -6
I have to agree about the Board of Regents. UWM has been and indefinetly always will be in the shadow of UW-Madison. When it comes to Alumni support, research inititives (stem cell anyone?) and out of state draw of students (='s out of state tution and more money), UW-Madison has us beat, which is sad that a friggin land grant college can beat out a instituion with education as is founding stone.
My question, what all is considered to be in a different conference, and is it similar to the criteria for changing divisions? I am willing to bet that the answer is more then a few years of good performance in a couple of sports; only one of which being major. There are other factors I am assuming, correct?
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Post by PantherAlumBB on Apr 1, 2005 13:27:57 GMT -6
<i>I'm such a longtime UWM alum that I can tell you that a chancellor tried to get the okay for the University of Milwaukee in the '70s. And it got good local media support. But, yes, the UW Board of Regents seemed to be the ones behind putting a stop to it.</i>
Werner von Braun - or whatever his name was - did that?
I'm not sure that there'd be the same opposition now, regardless of the composition of the Regents.
If MU can join the Big East, why can't we join the A-10?
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Post by rq756 on Apr 1, 2005 20:12:55 GMT -6
I think the MVC would be a good move. The MAC would be a little step up, but they generally have football. One interesting possibility is the A10. They just expanded adding Charlotte and St. Louis. With conference alignments in a constant state of flux these days, its within the realm of possibilty they could lose a member or two and look to replace them. They are a hoops league, not a FB league, so that would be good. Geographically, it might be a stretch, but they added St. Louis which is too Milwaukee's West and UWM already goes to Dayton to play Wright State. It would be a nice step up if it could be pulled off.
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Post by mwu on Apr 1, 2005 21:10:52 GMT -6
the main thing i dont like about changing conferences is we lose our rivals. it seems like everyone on the board doesnt want to change the name of the student section because we dont have alot of traditions here and all. if we move to A-10/MVC we lose probably our biggest traditions, hating UIC and GB. I for one don't want to give that up just yet. just think how dull some of the games could be not knowing anything about the teams we face. plus we could never go to any away games if half of them are in the carolinas and such, even st. louis can be a stretch.
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Post by UICJason on Apr 2, 2005 9:41:35 GMT -6
I think the best solution and the only one that really works well is the creation of the super mid-conference. Teams like SIU and Creighton and Northern Iowa get to continue to be rivals, and UIC, UWM, Butler & Detroit get to as well.
If you had a conference that had the top ends of the HL and the MVC, you'd have a conference consistently ranked in the top 7 or 8 conferences. It's be great, and would get tons of media attention for it's lovable mid majors.
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Post by CreamCity on Apr 2, 2005 10:24:13 GMT -6
To PantherAlumBB: It was Chancellor Frank Horton (or, actually, under him; it was one of his VC's) who made moves toward renaming us the University of Milwaukee.
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Post by CreamCity on Apr 2, 2005 10:26:35 GMT -6
Also, PantherAlumBB, if you look back at my post, you'll see I agree that the time is good now to try it again under this governor's Board of Regents, with so many from Milwaukee (including one of his major donors and campaign advisors who lives only blocks from campus).
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