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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 19, 2019 8:02:56 GMT -6
CSU Northridge, who went 13-20 on the season, "qualified" for the CBI. Just keep telling yourselves these tournaments mean something. Did you notice the CIT has only 26 teams and the remaining "top three seeds" after the first round have a second round bye? After having a bracket-friendly numbers of 16 and then 32 in it's first six years, the CIT has had 26, 20 and 26 participants in the past three seasons, respectively. I assume this is all they can get, or alternatively the CIT decides to stop "inviting" teams with even worse records. Nevertheless, the CIT and CBI are opportunities for teams to have post season success. After the opening tip in the opening round games that should be all that matters to participants and their fans.
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Post by skrapheap on Mar 19, 2019 8:56:00 GMT -6
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 19, 2019 11:05:22 GMT -6
The NBA should be put on hold for a couple of weeks so that we don't miss any Bucks games! All of its national announcers are involved in tournament coverage anyway!
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 19, 2019 11:16:21 GMT -6
The NBA should be put on hold for a couple of weeks so that we don't miss any Bucks games! All of its national announcers are involved in tournament coverage anyway! For many the NBA can be on hold forever. Most don't care until the playoffs. Heck, their own players say it. Bucks fans can't wait until April.
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Post by nickpanther on Mar 19, 2019 12:34:10 GMT -6
i would agree about merging the CBI and CIT into the NIT, have 2 68 team tournaments. instead of 1 68, , 1 32 1 26 and 1 16 team tourneys. yes that would mean 6 teams that currently qualify for the ' postseason" are left out, but really, does a 13-20 team deserve to be in the postseason? no. short of wining an NCAA autobid _ like we almost did in laval's only season here- a team with that bad of record should not sniff the postseason.
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Post by BBFran on Mar 19, 2019 13:38:06 GMT -6
Nevertheless, the CIT and CBI are opportunities for teams to have post season success. After the opening tip in the opening round games that should be all that matters to participants and their fans. Well, as everyone knows, these low bourgeois tournaments inviting the likes of Drake or West Virginia or Seattle or Marshall are not appropriate opportunities at a University with our amazing standards. Standards that we hew to faithfully and rigorously; standards that were not at all, in any way, created as a post facto bullsh!t excuse for firing one coach someone didn't like. We can all eagerly await this spring's press conference (I suggest booking the Panther Arena -- it would easily draw more than any BB game this year) where the coaches of every sport at the University except, maybe, women's soccer, will be publicly dressed down for their abject failure to meet the goals set by our inspirational standard creator -- and then dismissed in a glorious mass firing, because, by God, the devolution of our athletics program just couldn't be HER fault! It will be blood-curdling! Peanuts! Popcorn! Get your popcorn here!
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Post by nickpanther on Mar 19, 2019 18:40:42 GMT -6
Nevertheless, the CIT and CBI are opportunities for teams to have post season success. After the opening tip in the opening round games that should be all that matters to participants and their fans. Well, as everyone knows, these low bourgeois tournaments inviting the likes of Drake or West Virginia or Seattle or Marshall are not appropriate opportunities at a University with our amazing standards. Standards that we hew to faithfully and rigorously; standards that were not at all, in any way, created as a post facto bullsh!t excuse for firing one coach someone didn't like. We can all eagerly await this spring's press conference (I suggest booking the Panther Arena -- it would easily draw more than any BB game this year) where the coaches of every sport at the University except, maybe, women's soccer, will be publicly dressed down for their abject failure to meet the goals set by our inspirational standard creator -- and then dismissed in a glorious mass firing, because, by God, the devolution of our athletics program just couldn't be HER fault! It will be blood-curdling! Peanuts! Popcorn! Get your popcorn here! well because of our record we wouldnt have qualified for them anyway. 9-22 aint getting you into anything, absent some literal miracle where you start 6-22 and win your conference tourney.
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Post by nickpanther on Mar 19, 2019 18:58:33 GMT -6
Farleigh Dickinson wins the opener and advances to get creamed, er PLAY Gonzaga.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 19, 2019 20:16:15 GMT -6
Farleigh Dickinson wins the opener and advances to get creamed, er PLAY Gonzaga. I am guessing Poor Man's Coach K was mighty impressed.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 19, 2019 20:26:22 GMT -6
Clemson beat Wright State 75-69 in the NIT.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 20, 2019 4:18:08 GMT -6
Belmont gets the opportunity that too few programs like it ever do ... and makes the most of it against a GOOD Temple team!
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Post by nickpanther on Mar 20, 2019 8:09:54 GMT -6
we've had teams make runs from the play-in round. VCU got all the way to the Final 4 in 2011 from the play-in round .Belmont is a good team, they could make a run.
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Post by BBFran on Mar 20, 2019 9:48:34 GMT -6
Well, as everyone knows, these low bourgeois tournaments inviting the likes of Drake or West Virginia or Seattle or Marshall are not appropriate opportunities at a University with our amazing standards. Standards that we hew to faithfully and rigorously; standards that were not at all, in any way, created as a post facto bullsh!t excuse for firing one coach someone didn't like. We can all eagerly await this spring's press conference (I suggest booking the Panther Arena -- it would easily draw more than any BB game this year) where the coaches of every sport at the University except, maybe, women's soccer, will be publicly dressed down for their abject failure to meet the goals set by our inspirational standard creator -- and then dismissed in a glorious mass firing, because, by God, the devolution of our athletics program just couldn't be HER fault! It will be blood-curdling! Peanuts! Popcorn! Get your popcorn here! well because of our record we wouldnt have qualified for them anyway. 9-22 aint getting you into anything, absent some literal miracle where you start 6-22 and win your conference tourney. What if we had been, say, 20-13, with road wins against two Big Ten teams? Ah, doesn't matter. It's not like that will ever happen again here.
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Post by nickpanther on Mar 20, 2019 10:11:58 GMT -6
well because of our record we wouldnt have qualified for them anyway. 9-22 aint getting you into anything, absent some literal miracle where you start 6-22 and win your conference tourney. What if we had been, say, 20-13, with road wins against two Big Ten teams? Ah, doesn't matter. It's not like that will ever happen again here. you are referring of course to 2015-16 when we beat Bucky and ended up with 20 wins, but were not allowed to accept a postseason invite. yes, we should have gone to the Nit, at the least. for a program like ours any postseason experience is a good thing, the NIT is something to be proud of playing in, even if it isn't the Big Dance. it was a stupid move on braun's part, its rare that this school reaches 20 wins in a season. since then, the closest we've gotten to postseason play is the miraculous Horizon league tourney run that very nearly resulted in us going to the dance with the most losses of any team to ever make the field. Not that you, or I, or anyone here would have given a damn. even if we lost in the 16 playin, or more likely , got stomped by the 1 seed on the following Thursday, getting to the Dance is a huge deal regardless of what our record was in getting there. we would have another year to add to our tally on the board , alongside 2003, 2005, 2006, and 2014. but since laval left for Butler ( and he's done a good job there) we've declined, theres no denying that . this year was the worst for us record wise since 2012-13 when we went 8-24, i went to several UWM home games this year as part of covering the team for ESPN Milwaukee, and while i think the team has pieces to be quite good next year, the team this year just didn't have enough to finish games, whether it was depth or defense. this was borne out in dropping 11 in a row. yes i'm well aware our attendance stunk this year. in order for the attendance to grow, you need to win first. chicken and egg, after all. it also wouldn't hurt to have more consistent coverage of the team, whether in the journal sentinel or on the radio, or, ideally, both.
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Post by BBFran on Mar 20, 2019 10:31:17 GMT -6
Things that would help considerably more than the things you mentioned:
1. AD with a, you know, clue?
...(very large gap)...
2. Better coach
3. Much better players
Unfortunately, the chance of any of these things happening in the next three years is low. The chance of all of them happening is very, very low.
The program is years away from just being as good as an average Jeter team with about 18 wins and averaging 2500 fans a game. (Real fans, not imaginary friends.) Frankly, under the current "leadership," there is really no chance it will ever get back there.
For heaven's sake, how much proof does Chapman Hall need? How many years does the program have to crater?
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