"We didn't have room there and nothing came about, and I almost let it go when I came here because I thought he was at a different LEVEL from a recruiting standpoint," said Baldwin. "But we stayed persistent with him and got the release, and he committed to us sight unseen because he trusted in what we're doing."
I actually find the second part more concerning than the first part. Admitting you're talking to a player pre-release is opening yourself to the NCAA in ways you don't need to. Also, a player committing sight unseen is also risky. I'm sure he's seen several videos and/or virtual tours of the campus but committing without stepping foot in the city, let alone campus, seems unnecessarily risky.
As for the first part, no doubt it was dumb but I'm willing to give it a pass considering he's just under 4 months on the job in his first stint as a HC. Hopefully he saw his comments in print later saw how cringeworthy it was.
Post by Black PantherU on Oct 23, 2017 14:48:05 GMT -6
If you guys are looking for someone to be polished in public speaking from Day One, you're going to be disappointed. I bet even Pearl took a couple licks down in Evansville when he started as a head coach.
Then again, I can tell how something like this happens. Kevin O'Connor would have spent some time coaching Baldwin on how to speak with the media, and what to say/not say with fans. With O'Connor over in Chapman Hall, the SID (Sports Information Department, or media relations) has been run by Chris Zills and Tim Prahl. This is normally a three-person job, and after a couple years of Zills and Prahl holding down the fort, they finally got help from Ashley Steltenpohl. Except Pat Baldwin got here later than other hoops coaches, who have traditionally been hired here in April. Add in the fact that their job is much more complicated, with graphic design, social media and video production being part of each of their job descriptions now - and Zills probably hasn't had the time to really get Baldwin a full education on the program.
That education would absolutely involve him getting schooled on how to talk about the program at "our level." As in, don't talk about it like we're a mid-major that struggles to get people to come to games.
Of course, I probably would have had conversations like this with Baldwin if I were AD, but my expectations for this one are dark-depths-of-Hades-low. Or, hey, if soon-to-be-married Paul were SID for men's basketball (or if Zills weren't stretched thin, as he undoubtedly is considering he's still on-season for men's and women's soccer as the primary SID for those sports).
I'd love to sit down with Baldwin and give him an education on the fan base - including where guys like Holic, Lou, Cactus and Kenny had major bones to pick with Jeter. This, right here, is one of those bones.
For those of you who still have access to the basketball offices, just communicate that he will want to avoid the "level" talk because of how it irks a great amount of our fans.
I wouldn't show SRT these comments either. He might take PB for a little ride!
He just needs a series of conversations with someone who understands the fan base and supports the program. Maybe Amanda can find someone for him.
Jimmy, stop — you’re killin’ me!
"She would constantly try to throw [Coach Jeter] off and create distractions," said another source who worked in the athletic department and no longer is at UWM. "All the time. It was bad. I felt bad for him all the time. I told him, 'You're a bigger man than I am.' It was brutal. Sabotage was in the cards." -- From the JS story, March 17, 2016
In his interview with Scaffidi and Bilstadt on WTMJ (see other thread), Coach Baldwin answered a question about competing with MU in recruiting. He pretty much said they do not recruit the same "LEVEL" of players as MU. That was way too Jeteresque for my liking. Ghost of Dylan and I have had several discussions over the years about this very issue.
Why the public display by Coach Baldwin of self defeatism? Whether true or not, he could have expressed more optimism about pursuing some of the same caliber of players. We need to go no further than seeing Sandy Cohen on Green Bay's roster.
I'd rather have a coach spending his time developing players he recruited because their personality and skills fit the team than someone who chases big names he'll never get.
Wisconsin FB Coach Paul Chryst has said similar things, although he doesn't say it so plainly. The Badger system works well for them. They seldom get a four or five star recruit. They go after the underrated two and three star guys who are overlooked, like RB Jonathon Taylor. He leads the country and Wisconsin was one of the few schools who offered him a free ride.
They also specialize in taking those two and three stars and turning them into four and five stars. They look for guys who fit their team chemistry and who are coachable. And year after year they are in the mix to win the Big 10.
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Post by MKEPanthers45 on Feb 12, 2018 12:39:41 GMT -6
From my seat at the last home game he looked just about as tall as Brett Prahl when they were next to each other. With Abram, CWN, Shae Mitchell(6'6) and Tyronn Mosley(6"5),our guards/wings are gonna actually have some real height/length.