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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Apr 9, 2016 16:14:49 GMT -6
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Apr 9, 2016 16:16:08 GMT -6
The Panthers under Jeter posted more frustrating seasons than winning ones. Braun said season ticket sales had declined 60 percent over the past five years.
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Post by uwmxctf on Apr 9, 2016 16:28:10 GMT -6
I was unaware that we may also lose Gruber's sponsorship.
And 60%? Wow! I wonder how many left during the KC season and never returned? May bridge a substantial portion of the decline....
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Apr 9, 2016 16:38:36 GMT -6
The KC move during that year I was told was about 50%. Shocked that you couldn't get 25% of those people to come back when Braun moved the Panthers back to the Cell. It's not like the tickets cost that much, wait they don't!
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Post by milwsport on Apr 10, 2016 0:05:42 GMT -6
The more she talks the more I wonder if Amanda Braun knows what she's doing. In response to concerns that we may lose Nichols and Gruber as sponsors, Braun said she wouldn't be surprised if some sponsors leave because of their relationship with Jeter.
Really? Did Nichols relationship with Jeter lead him to endow a scholarships for WOMEN'S Basketball? Was Gruber's prominent presence at games even before the Pearl era due to Jeter?
Braun could have recognized the major contributions both men have made to the program even before Jeter came on the scene. She could have expressed hope that as the program enters a new era, it will attract more sponsors.
Instead she insulted both men by implying they're shallow because their support wasn't for the program, the school and for the community but only for the coach. Even if you believe that was true you don't say it publicly.
Wow, I'd say we'll be lucky if they even renew their season tickets.
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Post by skrapheap on Apr 10, 2016 4:52:29 GMT -6
It seems more and more to me like she resents that anyone even questioned her decision. And that those who do question the decision zeroed in on the implausilibilities in the justifications she offered for it.
It is strange to me that someone who has made a career as an administrator in college athletics could be surprised that some people will be very vocal in their criticism of her decision in the way that Amanda Braun has been, and as ham-handed in her responses to criticism as she is.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Apr 10, 2016 6:32:53 GMT -6
I agree with the both of you. She should not open her mouth. I just wish we could hear what they say to her. Maybe her bitterness is within reason. Hard to say when we are getting one sided stories.
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Post by kingsteve on Apr 11, 2016 10:42:12 GMT -6
The move to the Klotsche almost killed fan interest. Indeed it was most responsible for the dramatic decline in season tickets. That being said season tickets have been lackluster for years and I do think much had to do with the inconsistent results and lack of public relations panache by the head of the program, that being Rob Jeter. He had zero Public speaking ability though a very nice cordial person one on one. Program suffered for that but also not all his fault obviously. It does take a village and the lack of support from the University has been brutal. Another factor was the APR ban. After all the mediocre results at least we could hang our hat on that. Well, I know quite a few season ticket holders that cancelled out of disgust and protest but according to some he had no culpatilbity for this, all the systems fault, like he did not recruit those guys. Can't have it both ways. Some of the season ticket holders have returned but not all. I let my 30 yr season ticket packages lapse this year as things have gotten so stale . I just could not stand the poor game coaching and inconsistent play. Really, in all objectivity the cumulative work for 11 years did not pass the eye test and it was a disappointing though occasionally fools gold just enough to get interest only to have it sag back down. With this roster, 10 -8 in the conference? Really??? Overall D - 1 results barely above .500 despite being in the HL. All the recruiting snafus going back to the days of K Johnson, Flowers, Torre Johnson and others. The academic ban?? No, that was not Rob's fault...St Rob...that evil Bruce Pearl and Bo Ryan...where were their mass transfers, questionable recruiting and academic bans?? Keep hearing what a sleaze Bruce was from various posters but all of these happened under Jeter's watch, no other coaches..I will be renewing my season tickets for next year and look forward to a new era.
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Post by theDarkHawkReturns on Apr 11, 2016 11:01:05 GMT -6
For the record, KingSteve, the APR ban would not have happened were it not for errors in the paperwork submitted by the Athletic Department. Jeter and his staff were not responsible for that paperwork. Add to it the fact that Academic Advisers were cut also.
The NCAA, not some of us here, is the one that, officially, stated that the coaching staff was not responsible and the AD was. This was pre-Amanda Braun, also.
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Post by kingsteve on Apr 11, 2016 11:06:50 GMT -6
Understand but despite what the NCAA said technically , to say coaches were totally not responsible...why even have them involved or responsible then?? Who recruited those kids in the first place that left school , did not graduate etc. Rick Costello? Andy Geiger? Mike Lovell???
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Post by PantherU on Apr 11, 2016 14:14:55 GMT -6
Understand but despite what the NCAA said technically , to say coaches were totally not responsible...why even have them involved or responsible then?? Who recruited those kids in the first place that left school , did not graduate etc. Rick Costello? Andy Geiger? Mike Lovell??? Transferring has become such a big part of college, that I don't think anyone should expect that a 4-year player will automatically stay in the system anymore. That's true of basketball and the general student body, mind you. People see transfers as a terrible thing for the program, but most of the time a transfer is best for both parties. Trinson White and Jimmy Stamas transferred out of here because of playing time. So did Justin Jordan and JayQuan McCloud. Fans want the program to get to a higher level, but then decry coaches for recruiting better players. Justin Jordan got here, saw JayQuan McCloud was going to be eligible and realized his playing time was going to get cut significantly. Is that Jeter's fault? No, Jeter's staff recruited over Jordan. It happens, and a lot more at these high-major programs that you want us to be more like. We'll see how Coach Val does. I'm hopeful. |
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Post by FTA1982 on Apr 12, 2016 11:14:46 GMT -6
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Post by Pantherholic on Apr 12, 2016 12:40:44 GMT -6
Does anyone know what the private contributions goal is for the practice facility? I know the school is looking at $11.8M but didn't know what the fundraising goal was.
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Post by PantherU on Apr 12, 2016 13:20:26 GMT -6
Does anyone know what the private contributions goal is for the practice facility? I know the school is looking at $11.8M but didn't know what the fundraising goal was. As I understood it, everything they were trying to raise was gravy. What I mean by that is the $11.8 million (that will climb now, thanks Scotty) will all come from the $25 facilities segregated fee, and money raised will go towards outfitting that facility with extras to take it to the next level. So I don't know about a specific fundraising goal. You'd have to ask Braun or Jenny Gryniewicz. As for the Business Journals article, I'll say two things: 1. It's nice to see someone say one thing privately to me and then something totally different in print. Nice to know you can't trust someone who says they will join you on a limb until they're sitting next to you on that limb. 2. Rich Kirchen has never been a fan of Jeter. I'll bring back this little chestnut that he wrote while Koonce was setting fire to the athletic department: www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2010/02/22/story9.html?b=1266814800^2916251 |
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Apr 12, 2016 13:30:25 GMT -6
Change of heart, saw the bigger picture for themselves?
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