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Post by Super King on Sept 23, 2012 20:57:09 GMT -6
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Post by royalty414 on Sept 23, 2012 21:04:04 GMT -6
Heard the news about an hour ago. Was waiting to see if someone would post. I can't wait to see what the new baseball facility may look like. I'm excited and we're making big progress for a baseball team starving for attention from fans and students.
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Lutzow10
Freshman
MILWAUKEE PROUD - PANTHER STRONG
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Post by Lutzow10 on Sept 23, 2012 21:40:49 GMT -6
As good news as this is i really hope that the basketball situation is addressed next
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Post by gman2 on Sept 24, 2012 9:33:13 GMT -6
Any meaning in aborted camps arena proposition?
Geiger also announced that the facilities will be primarily be funded by gifts along with the segregated fees raised from the aborted campus arena proposition
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Post by PantherU on Sept 24, 2012 9:53:45 GMT -6
Any meaning in aborted camps arena proposition? Geiger also announced that the facilities will be primarily be funded by gifts along with the segregated fees raised from the aborted campus arena propositionThis was also the part that jumped out at me. Look, I would have voted for the $25 increase if it were for a baseball/track/soccer complex, but I'm fairly certain it wouldn't have passed. Half of the students who had that vote in spring 2010 are graduated now, but I think it's still on the student association to make sure that happens.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 24, 2012 11:19:02 GMT -6
This sounds like great news! Can JSOnline get a hold of this? Where are you Don Walker.
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Post by Super King on Sept 24, 2012 11:55:17 GMT -6
Any meaning in aborted camps arena proposition? Geiger also announced that the facilities will be primarily be funded by gifts along with the segregated fees raised from the aborted campus arena propositionIt's been changed to simply Klotsche renovations. No more on-campus arena. I assume Geiger must think the entire cost can be attained through fund-raising.
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Post by skrapheap on Sept 24, 2012 12:01:39 GMT -6
The Post article states that funding will come in part from "the aborted campus arena" project. Did I miss an important announcement, or is this campus journalism at its usual low level of quality?
The move back to Klotsche was pitched as an interim step while the remaining funds required to build an arena were being raised. Could seg fee monies which were collected for the purpose of building an on-campus arena be lawfully diverted to build this facility? It sounds like the AD was or will be seeking SA's approval for such a move, assuming the Post story was accurately written and properly checked and edited.
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Post by PantherU on Sept 24, 2012 12:04:04 GMT -6
Any meaning in aborted camps arena proposition? Geiger also announced that the facilities will be primarily be funded by gifts along with the segregated fees raised from the aborted campus arena propositionIt's been changed to simply Klotsche renovations. No more on-campus arena. I assume Geiger must think the entire cost can be attained through fund-raising. The Klotsche Center would need extensive renovations. I'm cool with a reno so long as it's Gentile level - as in, completely changing the facility. But it can be done. If they lower the floor and move the equipment, locker and racquetball rooms to the side, they could technically have enough space to fit 8,000 seats or 7,000 with suites. Although I still think we should be in the 5.5-6.5 range. The baseball stadium will have a post on PantherU shortly.
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Post by kingsteve on Sept 24, 2012 13:25:39 GMT -6
Very interesting times and hopefully will get more interesting. Fantastic news . So badly needed and the right thing to do for the student athletes in these sports that have persevered and flourished with minimal logistical backing. I would think also this shows Geiger's fund-raising acumen which down the line gives hope to a new on-campus arena. I am also pleased that this in essence preserves Engelmann as the soccer venue. All good...now, I have to agree with Jimmy. Although not first choice if the money is flat out not realistic for a ground up new on campus arena I could live with a renovated Klotsche similiar to what was done at Loyola by dropping the floor...and a practice facility next door. Not first choice but not the worst thing either.
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Post by illwauk on Sept 24, 2012 15:46:07 GMT -6
I really wish I could get as excited about this as everyone else, but what sense does it make to build a baseball venue 10 minutes from campus when students can already catch a MLB game 7 miles away? I'm sure the Panther baseball players' parents and girlfriends are thrilled, but us core fans are still left with a basketball team playing in a D2-caliber facility for the foreseeable future and still no football team.
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Post by Super King on Sept 24, 2012 15:50:13 GMT -6
Miller Park is 7 minutes from campus? Can I borrow your teleporter?
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Post by illwauk on Sept 24, 2012 16:14:05 GMT -6
Typo... that should read 7 MILES.
Either way, the point is students/Eastsiders can already catch a Major League game by driving relatively the same length of time, so why would they drive out to Glendale to see a much lower level of baseball?
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Sept 24, 2012 16:49:27 GMT -6
So, why don't we get rid of UWM & MU basketball. We have the Bucks.
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Post by BBFran on Sept 24, 2012 17:31:29 GMT -6
The new baseball/track facility is great news for the student athletes but its location a little bit off-campus is not terribly important. College track and college baseball in the north are not really spectator events. If there is provision for 500 fans that is more than sufficient, and would be sufficient at any northern University. You could build a baseball facility in front of Sandburg and there would be no appreciable difference in attendance. That's just the truth of it. But I'm delighted for the student athletes, their families and the coaches, and this is a nice coup for Andy Geiger. As the only D1 baseball team in the state, our program deserves to and should play in a good facility, and he has secured that now.
Ultimately only basketball and soccer have any ability to generate revenue from attendance. The basketball facilities will be a much tougher nut to crack. They require a lot more money, and the logistics are extremely daunting. This is a long term project, not because anybody wants it to be, but because it is the result of very long term neglect. Opportunities (that had absolutely nothing to do with Bruce Pearl's ephemeral success, by the way) were missed, and quite frankly the four year revolving door at the AD position absolutely destroyed any chance of moving the issue forward to resolution.
And just to clear something up, we didn't move back to campus to save money to build a new arena. There may be some marginal financial impact to that end, but we moved back to campus for precisely the reason Andy has said -- college basketball should be played on a college campus. Most if not all of the savings from the Cell contract will have to be spent just to improve the Klotsche in some basic ways.
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