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Post by Hack on Nov 9, 2011 22:49:07 GMT -6
Wilson Park could only be a temporary home. The Milwaukee County Parks System isn't going put money into an expansion, and UWM shouldn't either.
Like you've said with football, "go big or go home" ... settling on Wilson Park just isn't feasible for a D1 hockey program. Not if you want to do it the right way.
This coming from someone who's played hundreds of hockey games there over the past 25 years (including UWM's club team).
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Post by PantherU on Nov 9, 2011 23:32:31 GMT -6
Wilson Park could only be a temporary home. The Milwaukee County Parks System isn't going put money into an expansion, and UWM shouldn't either. Like you've said with football, "go big or go home" ... settling on Wilson Park just isn't feasible for a D1 hockey program. Not if you want to do it the right way. This coming from someone who's played hundreds of hockey games there over the past 25 years (including UWM's club team). If the money is there, you can build a facility that has a basketball arena in one part and a hockey arena in another section. That would fit on the Norris/grassy knoll space.
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Post by Hack on Nov 10, 2011 0:26:08 GMT -6
I'm fine with that. I just don't think you start your hockey program 20 miles from campus in a 50-year-old facility that's more suited to serve a D3 hockey program. What you are talking about has been done at Notre Dame. I played a few games in high school at the Joyce Center prior to Notre Dame games. Cool dual facility, although the hockey portion left something to be desired. Granted this was in 1995 and I believe they've made upgrades since then. Hindsight being an incredible 20/20 (and if UWM was pursuing hockey years ago) ... it would've been great to partner with MSOE when it built the Kern Center for basketball/hockey facilities. EDIT: Upon further examination, looks like they just closed Joyce for hockey last month. Here's Notre Dame's new arena (seats over 5,000):
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Post by PantherU on Nov 10, 2011 2:25:05 GMT -6
Surprising, the hockey arena was built in just about one year. After some digging, I've found that the place is a palace and cost $50 million. We can expect that from the Irish. How much would a facility cost for us? Not quite sure, but I'm interested enough to look into it.
I talked to a donor for our program as well as Madison's hockey program on Saturday. He's very well-connected in the hockey community and is passionate about bringing hockey to campus. I'm told that with Wisconsin's departure to the Big Ten, the WCHA will be losing not only the Badgers, Buckeyes, and Gophers to the new B1G, but a much larger chunk to a new National Collegiate Hockey Conference that guts the current membership down to 5. The WCHA wants to get back up to 12, however, and is willing to go deep into their own pockets to start a program. The state of Wisconsin is the second-biggest following of the WCHA, and they don't want to lose the entire state, so they're very much interested in helping a program start at Milwaukee.
Also, don't discount the cutting of women's golf at UIC last year. That very well could have been a move toward a hockey program. They would be a logical choice, having already fielded a program and the obvious existence of the UIC Pavilion meaning they don't need to build a facility. Maybe a practice facility.
I do know that the conference shake-up in BCS football is nothing compared to the earth-shattering Penn State did when they added NCAA hockey. The WCHA and CCHA have practically been gutted, a new nationally prominent conference has begun, and there is room for a lot of new programs. It would seem that we could be nationally competitive quickly; a team can ride a hot goalie all the way to the Frozen Four. We'd certainly be able to be strong long before we would in football.
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Post by mwu on Nov 13, 2011 0:25:06 GMT -6
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Post by PantherU on Nov 26, 2011 13:54:08 GMT -6
I don't know if anyone here enjoys FCS football, but there's a great game on ESPN3 in the NCAA Tourney first round between James Madison and Eastern Kentucky.
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Post by PantherU on Nov 26, 2011 14:04:22 GMT -6
For those of you who are unconvinced that Milwaukee could possibly win immediately in I-AA FCS, the Old Dominion Monarchs, in their third year and first year of playoff eligibility, are winning 21-7 over crosstown rival Norfolk State in the first round of the tournament.
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Post by uwmfutbol on Nov 26, 2011 15:35:00 GMT -6
Thank God UW-Madison is getting that long-needed Women's Hockey arena. It must be nice to be loaded.
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Post by Hack on Nov 26, 2011 18:33:44 GMT -6
Thank God UW-Madison is getting that long-needed Women's Hockey arena. It must be nice to be loaded. Anyone who has been to a game at the Dane County Coliseum knows this was long overdue.
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Post by uwmfutbol on Nov 26, 2011 18:52:12 GMT -6
Thank God UW-Madison is getting that long-needed Women's Hockey arena. It must be nice to be loaded. Anyone who has been to a game at the Dane County Coliseum knows this was long overdue. Yeah I know I was just kidding. It's only amusing because we're struggling to get a new arena for our flagship program and they're sprouting up new buildings every year. That new hockey arena looks amazing, by the way.
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Post by skrapheap on Nov 28, 2011 11:47:43 GMT -6
Thank God UW-Madison is getting that long-needed Women's Hockey arena. It must be nice to be loaded. Anyone who has been to a game at the Dane County Coliseum knows this was long overdue. i've never been to any event at the Kohl Center, but i am sure it is a major improvement over the Coliseum. i forget what the capacity of the Coliseum is for hockey, but i am sure the Kohl Center seats many more fans. i'm not sure why the women's program needed an arena of its own...since they've won NCAA championships with greater frequency than the men's team in recent years, perhaps the women's team should have first claim on the Kohl Center?
i will say this for the Coliseum, it got really loud in there when the fans were into the game.
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Post by PantherU on Nov 28, 2011 13:22:17 GMT -6
The women's team will never average the attendance of the men's team - this is true for just about every sport.
3,000 packed into that place will kill. The part no one talks about is that Madison's men's hockey team will have its locker room under the street between the two facilities, and practicing in the new Ice facility will save the university a ton of money setting up and taking down the rink for games and practices.
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Post by thegreengull on Dec 12, 2011 0:17:00 GMT -6
Northern Illinois won the MAC title this year and finished with a 10-3 record while making their fourth straight bowl appearance. If Northern Illinois can do it, and their located in the bustling metropolis of Dekalb, IL, there’s no reason why Milwaukee can’t do the same or better with the right facilities and leadership in place. www.niuhuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120411aaa.html
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Post by thegreengull on Dec 12, 2011 16:45:23 GMT -6
The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee including its predecessor institutions, the Wisconsin State Normal School, Milwaukee State Teacher's College, and the Wisconsin State College-Milwaukee, had a varsity football program from 1898-1974. During those years Milwaukee produced some prolific coaches and players and some great teams. The golden age of Milwaukee football was during the tenure of Herman Kluge, who starred at Milwaukee as an All-Conference guard and tackle from 1924-1927. Kluge was head coach from 1931 to 1955 and led the Milwaukee State Teachers College to six conference titles (1931, 1938, 1939, 1942, 1947 and 1948). When Milwaukee State Teachers College became the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee in 1956, Kluge was appointed the Athletic Director and served until 1969. One of the most accomplished players in UWM history was its team captain during Milwaukee’s last year of varsity football in 1974, Mike Reinfeldt. Reinfeldt was a team leader and a four year starter at safety for the Panthers. Reinfeldt later played safety in the NFL from 1975 to 1983 and played with the Oakland Raiders during his rookie season and then starred with the Houston Oilers during the remaining of his career. As a Houston Oiler Reinfeldt established himself as an all-pro safety and made the pro bowl in 1979. Since his playing days Reinfeldt became an executive in the NFL and he is currently in his fifth year as the General Manager of the Tennessee Titans. Another memorable player during the Panthers last years of varsity football was its starting quarterback from 1970-73, Bill Carollo. After graduation Carollo went on to become a successful referee in both the high school and college ranks. Carollo later became a Big Ten Official from 1980-1988, and he officiated the 88’ Rose Bowl. Then, Carollo became a well respected referee in the NFL during his tenure from 1989 to 2008. In the NFL Carollo officiated two Super Bowls, and seven conference championship games, and served as the Director of the NFL Referees Association from 2001-2006. Carollo is currently the Director of Officiating for the Big Ten Conference, a post he’s held since 2008. We can build on the football tradition we do have while looking to forward to the potential of the Milwaukee Panthers Football program. Let’s bring back football to Milwaukee, it’s been long overdue!
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Post by illwauk on Dec 13, 2011 14:29:09 GMT -6
The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee including its predecessor institutions, the Wisconsin State Normal School, Milwaukee State Teacher's College, and the Wisconsin State College-Milwaukee, had a varsity football program from 1898-1974. During those years Milwaukee produced some prolific coaches and players and some great teams. The golden age of Milwaukee football was during the tenure of Herman Kluge, who starred at Milwaukee as an All-Conference guard and tackle from 1924-1927. Kluge was head coach from 1931 to 1955 and led the Milwaukee State Teachers College to six conference titles (1931, 1938, 1939, 1942, 1947 and 1948). When Milwaukee State Teachers College became the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee in 1956, Kluge was appointed the Athletic Director and served until 1969. I thought we were Wisconsin State College of Milwaukee, then Wisconsin State University of Milwaukee before becoming UWM. Is that really Corollo? If so, this is the first Panther football picture that I've seen with what appears to be a logo on the helmet, but I have no idea what that logo is.
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