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Post by nickpanther on Feb 28, 2023 19:09:43 GMT -6
at half tonight. davis has 23. 41 away from the record. more importantly. Detroit is winning.
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Post by ghostofpbj on Feb 28, 2023 20:11:27 GMT -6
Davis only needs 26 points to break the record. Dare I say he gets it and they knock off YSU??? Or is that too crazy
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 28, 2023 20:16:00 GMT -6
Davis only needs 26 points to break the record. Dare I say he gets it and they knock off YSU??? Or is that too crazy NOT crazy!
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Post by nickpanther on Feb 28, 2023 20:21:48 GMT -6
its not crazy Davis drops 40-45, they have a shot. wouldnt that be something. ' breaks an unbreakable record knocks youngstown ST into the NIT AND sends his team to Indy? Its March!
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Post by PantherNation on Mar 1, 2023 8:14:01 GMT -6
Just think… if Detroit didn’t get Covid in 2020-2021, he probably scores at least 70 in the two games against us that got canceled.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 3, 2023 20:52:14 GMT -6
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Post by GoPanthers33 on Mar 3, 2023 20:53:43 GMT -6
I think it’s almost certain they’ll be playing in the CBI at this point.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 3, 2023 20:59:31 GMT -6
Time for notable alumni to step up. Willie Green, etc.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 6, 2023 23:34:48 GMT -6
UDM is getting a lot of pushback from some who think Pistol Pete's record should stay intact. Here is an example:
Three points shy of Pistol Pete, Antoine Davis, Detroit Mercy should say no to postseason | Opinion Dan Wolken USA TODAY
Records are made to be broken, but they’re not made to be pursued to the point of disrespect and farcicality.
There are more important things to worry about than Pete Maravich remaining college basketball’s all-time scoring leader or whether Antoine Davis of Detroit Mercy passes him to become one of the great niche sports trivia answers in history.
But statistical records, for all their flaws and lack of context, can help tell the story of the sport. And Maravich’s 3,667 points scored in three years at LSU tell a very specific story about a uniquely gifted player who did things nobody else before or since has done on a college basketball court. It doesn’t mean Maravich’s record must stand forever, but it should be treated with reverence.
And with Davis coming up three points shy of tying Maravich last week as his Detroit Mercy team lost in the Horizon League quarterfinals, any further pursuit of Pistol Pete would fall squarely into the category of crass record-chasing for no other purpose than to take down one of the most memorable marks in sports.
When Davis missed his last 3-point attempt in the final seconds against Youngstown State, leaving Detroit Mercy at 14-19 and nowhere near deserving of a postseason bid, that should have been that. The basketball gods had spoken.
The question is whether Davis and Detroit Mercy will listen.
When the dust settles at the end of this week, there’s a possibility the College Basketball Invitational – a pay-for-play tournament that generally caters to mid-majors – will invite Detroit Mercy. And there’s a possibility that they will accept, writing a $27,500 check for the chance to put Davis on top of the scoring list.
Mike Davis, the head coach and father of Antoine Davis, said after the loss to Youngstown State he would "definitely" be inclined to accept an invitation but would leave it up to the players. Let’s hope it doesn’t get that far.
Nothing against Davis, who seems like a terrific young man and has been fun to follow throughout his college career, but enough's enough. With ample opportunity to chase down Pistol Pete, he came up just short. That feels right. That feels like it should be the end.
Detroit Mercy guard Antoine Davis drives to the basket against Cincinnati guard David DeJulius during the second half of their game at Fifth Third Arena in Cincinnati, Ohio on Dec. 21, 2022. Just don’t do it, Detroit.
Some of the criticism this season directed at Davis, a dynamic 6-foot-1 guard who makes shots from all over the court, was completely irrational. It wasn’t his fault that Maravich played in an era without a shot clock or a 3-point line, or that Maravich had to sit out as a freshman due to NCAA rules at the time while Davis got to play five seasons because everyone’s eligibility was extended due to COVID-19 shutting down the 2020 season.
Those were all important pieces of context to understand how Davis came close to chasing down a 53-year old record, but nobody would have disputed that Maravich’s achievements as a scorer were far more impressive. Records fall all the time simply due to evolution of the sport, and Davis taking over as the NCAA Division 1 scoring king would have fallen squarely in that category.
But for Detroit Mercy to take this any further would be artificial. Extending a season solely for the glorification of one player would make a previously hallowed record seem like a mockery of the sport. It would feel wrong.
And let’s not let the CBI off the hook here, either.
Postseason tournaments outside of the one that matters are generally worthy of little more than an eye roll, but they don’t hurt anyone. Sometimes there are legitimate reasons why teams want to extend their seasons, even if it’s not on the big stage.
Last year, UNC Wilmington tied for the Colonial Athletic Association regular season title but lost a tiebreaker to Towson for the No. 1 seed. When UNC Wilmington lost the NCAA automatic bid to Delaware in the conference championship game, Towson got the league’s NIT bid, which squeezed Wilmington out of the traditional tournaments. Going to the CBI was a reward for players who deserved a postseason opportunity, and they took advantage by winning the thing.
Though the CBI has invited teams with losing records before, there is no competitive reason to include a Detroit Mercy team that finished tied for eighth in the 11-team Horizon League. It would strictly be because Davis setting the record would earn the tournament some notoriety and, frankly, because Detroit would be willing to pay the entry fee. Had Davis set the record because his team advanced in its conference tournament and earned more opportunities for him to play, that’s one thing. But being gifted a spot in a second-rate tournament just so he can break it looks cheap and unworthy of the career Davis has had.
Even now, three points shy of Pistol Pete, that career should be able to stand on its own as something great. But if the CBI and Detroit Mercy take it any further, they’ll turn one of the unique records in sports into a sham.
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Post by nickpanther on Mar 7, 2023 0:45:48 GMT -6
that article smacks of stuff said in 1961 when Maris was chasing Ruths record of 60 homers. the then-Commissioner even said there would be an asterisk next to Maris' number if he didnt hit 61 homers in 154 games, as was the season length in Ruths day.because by that point the season was 162. that was ridiculous then, this is ridiculous now. records are made to be broken. there wasnt the extra tournaments and extra games in Pistol Petes day that there are now. Let them play and honor him after his first 2 baskets. he's earned it. If Pete were alive today, I'm pretty sure he;d be calling for them to play in the tournament.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 7, 2023 10:56:15 GMT -6
If Pete were alive today, I'm pretty sure he;d be calling for them to play in the tournament. We don't know this. The surviving 1972 Miami Dolphin players celebrate every year that another season goes by without an undefeated team.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 8, 2023 9:48:02 GMT -6
If Pete were alive today, I'm pretty sure he;d be calling for them to play in the tournament. We don't know this. The surviving 1972 Miami Dolphin players celebrate every year that another season goes by without an undefeated team. In an interview with The Detroit News on Monday, Pete's son, Jaeson Maravich called the situation a “farce.” “You know, it's nothing against Antoine. I don't know him. I've heard he's a good kid. This is not directed toward him,” Jaeson Maravich said during a phone call from his home in Louisiana. “It's more directed toward the whole CBI thing. There were eight teams in the conference with a better record than them. Where's their invite? I think it's an extremely cheap and shameful attempt to break an all-time record. He had five years to break it.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 8, 2023 9:50:41 GMT -6
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 10, 2023 10:21:04 GMT -6
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 10, 2023 10:24:34 GMT -6
The Ps8? Is that the latest gaming device from Sony? Will Antoine break the record virtually???
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