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Post by PantherLou on Dec 10, 2009 13:07:44 GMT -6
In regards to this recruiting issue ... What were Bree Perine and Randy Berry last year? Two seasons ago? Two years ago, Bree Perine was the epitome of an afterthought. But he grew and developed in a system and by his junior year, he's bordering on stardom. Berry? A virtual slug for his first two years (actually three, with a redshirt) in the program, last year a serviceable, role-playing big man and this year a double-double machine (this makes three, for you counting at home). Can't believe I'm saying this, but Kowalczyk is starting to remind me of Bo in the way he develops players within the framework of his system and elevates them to a spot in the rotation after other, more experienced players cycle out. When tapped, they're ready when their time arrives. Two ways to get talented players: #1: Recruit and bring in talented players who can immediately produce. #2: Recruit less-talented players and develop then into the type of players your program needs. The best programs do both. Sadly, it appears as we do neither....
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Post by longtimefan on Dec 10, 2009 13:16:30 GMT -6
Hey, ghostofdylan,
You're at least right about Kowalczyk in that he appears to have changed his approach. For too many years he was constantly running kids off, bringing in JCs, not emphasizing defense at all.
Good observation: this year's difference at UWGB might be the chemistry of having guys stay with the program for four or five years. Berry, Cotton as examples of that, perine as a guy who is a late bloomer and now a standout
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Post by panthersteve on Dec 10, 2009 13:18:00 GMT -6
Our approach seems to be one of almost desperation.. We flail about and when lucky enough to snag someone we hope somehow it works on the fly
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 13:25:37 GMT -6
Off topic- (sue me) , but Lou, love the Avatar. That season single-handidly saved IASIP's 5th season. LOL. Great show (with the exception of some pretty unfunny episodes this year...).
The D.E.N.N.I.S. System. Shady guys everywhere are using it and don't even know it. lol.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 10, 2009 14:11:05 GMT -6
Lou:
Here's my thought: when you bring in talented players capable of producing immediately, get them on the court so they can help make the team better. Can you believe that three weeks ago it appeared as though Ja' Rob was destined for a redshirt? I could make a case that at the moment he's our third-best guard. He is, after all, one of perhaps two or three players who actually responded to the big stage Tuesday night.
I can see the benefits of developmentally redshirting big players like Randy Berry or Andrew Smith at this level, given that they're almost universally projects. But well-recruited guards and wings like Ja' Rob and Lonnie should be able to find a niche and be allowed to contribute early and, barring injuries, develop and grow as players throughout their four years.
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Post by uwm97 on Dec 10, 2009 14:44:39 GMT -6
“He has a terrific track record of developing players."
Who said this about whom recently?
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Post by PantherU on Dec 10, 2009 15:06:43 GMT -6
Buzz about Rob?
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Post by uwm97 on Dec 10, 2009 15:47:13 GMT -6
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 10, 2009 16:59:46 GMT -6
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Post by apaladino on Dec 10, 2009 17:00:38 GMT -6
If we are referring to Milwaukee, Lights out is over 45%! As for writing the season off, have you seen this team play? Not to much to brag about or even look forward to. The concerns began when we struggled against D2 schools and nothing they have done nothing to make me feel any better. Actually yes I have. I have been to 4 regular season games (had to work during the Hillsdale game) both exhibition games and the pre-season scrimmage. I'm also going to Saturday's game up in Fargo. So yeah, I have seen this team quite a bit so far this season. I have also seen the depths (06-07) they are coming from and the highs (05-06) they are trying to get back to. I am so far from writing this season off, its not even funny. Mrs Jeter? So what exactly have you seen that is encouraging? Shooting 41%, 21 turnovers? Just squeaking by UIC? Losing to Loyola? Look had they shown any promise or improvement I would agree with you. So my conclusion is that either you are a member of the Coaching staff/School/team or you drink way too much during the games cuz I and many others aren't seeing it.
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Post by gman2 on Dec 10, 2009 21:09:08 GMT -6
Nice quote from pmck: "The last few years, we've gone down (to Madison), and we didn't try to win as a team," Kowalczyk said. "Our guys had a chip on their shoulder and thought they should be playing for them. You can't have that mentality. You have to win together."
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Post by reggiewheelerfor3 on Dec 11, 2009 13:02:04 GMT -6
I was wondering when Mike Dunlap's name would come up in this thread. I'm glad I didn't have to be the one to do it! ;-)
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Post by brewtownbrian on Dec 11, 2009 13:15:22 GMT -6
I was wondering when Mike Dunlap's name would come up in this thread. I'm glad I didn't have to be the one to do it! ;-) Ahhh...the one that got away!
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Post by uwm97 on Dec 11, 2009 13:35:52 GMT -6
I was wondering when Mike Dunlap's name would come up in this thread. I'm glad I didn't have to be the one to do it! ;-) Well someone had to do it. The man is a walking basketball encyclopedia. He perfectly fit the profile of our two previous, successful hires. And he wanted the job.
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Post by gman2 on Dec 11, 2009 13:55:27 GMT -6
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