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Post by jayrob on Feb 26, 2009 19:40:36 GMT -6
Now, I'm all about enthusiasm within the student section, but I have to comment about a few things I've noticed during the season. For the most part, we do a good job at keeping the student section clean and being a good representation for our school, but when I hear someone yell "f*****" at the opposing coach, and the entire section cheering "10 likes men", I'm a bit saddened. Let's keep it loud and passionate, but let's be smart and classy while we do it folks.
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Post by PantherU on Feb 26, 2009 21:24:19 GMT -6
The random "f*****s" that were yelled at the opposing coach are dealt with if we can find the guy. We try our best to police it, but the game is going on and with a larger student section it is harder to catch who says those things. Also, the 10 likes Men started out as Ben likes Men...it was directed at Ben Woodside. It was a random part of the section.
We do talk to them before games about the things they say. We are doing a better job of this since the UIC game, when a lot of students showed up drunk and were very terrible to the UIC coaching staff. Dr. Helen got a letter from Jimmy Collins' wife telling her about some of the things directed at JC and his team.
I strongly discouraged the "Vanderqueer" reference at the UIC game, but in lieu of creativity, the "party section" went ahead with it anyways. We had a long meeting about creativity and the cheers came up with more and more were better.
I talk to other teams' players, coaches, and fans regularly throughout the season, and our student section has the reputation of being the dirtiest. We don't want that; we'd rather be the best.
A lot of the problem surrounding this is that the section got very big very quickly...it is back up to the size it was my freshman year of 2006, maybe bigger. We didn't have time to get organized. But we will have things for fans to learn how to cheer when the season begins again next year, perhaps off the bat with soccer.
The reason this keeps cropping up, we're sure, is because we aren't structured within the section. The SBGC as a whole did a great job getting students to games this year (and we're not done, with the tourney game plus baseball) and will focus this offseason on structuring the student section, and creating tutorials and such on how to cheer at Panther games.
I do apologize, we will keep things as clean as we can.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2009 23:02:44 GMT -6
Yeah I've noticed this a few times...it tends to happen when you get people jumping into the section who really don't have much sportsmanship. Most of the section is pretty good but I usually end up being near the few who decided to add alcohol and a lack of sportsmanship and it gets pretty annoying.
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Post by jayrob on Feb 26, 2009 23:17:12 GMT -6
Is there any way to try and organize an official "Student Section", get some standard t-shirts that those people wear, and by doing so and being with others in this group, they agree to abide by certain rules of conduct? We could also make it a social thing, organize social events as well (bar crawl, softball games, etc). This would be a way to unify some of the students as well as try and make them accountable in a way.
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Post by PantherU on Feb 27, 2009 1:01:11 GMT -6
jayrob, the problem isn't the people in the SBGC, it's the people who are outside of it and only come to the occasional game drunk.
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Post by beartrap on Feb 27, 2009 3:42:32 GMT -6
first of all i will say i am against the "dirty" cheers, and those of us that have been around for a year or more that know better and show the maturity do ask students to not do the "10 likes men" cheers and others like it.
But you have to understand you get anywhere from 200-400 students in that section, it is impossible to control them, and i am not one for "policing" the student section.
and jimmy that "ben likes men" is complete bs, idk the countless times ive seen you start "10 likes men" and you know dang well it started in the party section,
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Post by milwsport on Feb 27, 2009 10:21:41 GMT -6
I talked a lesbian alum at work into going to a game.
I got an earful about it he next time I saw her. She said the fans sitting around her said it was par for the course and that they didn't like it either.
That's not even mentioning how my partner and I feel when we hear those things. He decided not to rearrange his schedule to go to the Butler game with me.
It kinda sucks to rush dinner, change, drive downtown, walk six blocks in the cold, put out $30.00 for tickets and then listen to people insulting you. Especially now when money's tight.
The thing is that over the last few years, I've gone to games at UIC, Chicago, UW-GB and Butler. I never heard any of those things from their student sections.
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Post by PantherU on Feb 27, 2009 11:00:10 GMT -6
beartrap, I know it started in the party section...that's why I said it earlier.
One way we could discourage it is by starting louder chants when those start.
P.S. What's the difference if it's Ben or Ten? They have the same connotation.
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Post by jayrob on Feb 27, 2009 11:08:11 GMT -6
jayrob, the problem isn't the people in the SBGC, it's the people who are outside of it and only come to the occasional game drunk. That's understandable, but I mean what about having a group of students, sitting together in identical apparel, setting an example for the rest of the students. Kind of an unofficial official student cheering section?
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Post by milwsport on Feb 27, 2009 11:30:43 GMT -6
and jimmy that "ben likes men" is complete bs, idk the countless times ive seen you start "10 likes men" and you know dang well it started in the party section, Are you saying you've seen Jimmy start these cheers?
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Post by DunneDeal on Feb 27, 2009 11:37:03 GMT -6
That's what we have in the SBGC. But we don't have authority or an ability to police the people that are there for the first time or drunk. We can set an example, we can yell at them tell them to be respectful but we cannot do anything if they tell us to F_ck Off. We can set an example, we can only do so much.
Not to sound like an ass but frankly I feel bad for the fans that get offended and whatnot cause some d-bag said something. But what do you really expect at a sporting event, esp in college. have you not been to a Brewers game where people yell anything and everything do you think it's going to change in college basketball.
If your offended by what someone says, hey im sorry but frankly its going to happen, and you know that. Nothing can be done, you can not arrest someone for yelling something at some player and it offended you in the seat. Deal with it, I guess
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Post by uwmfutbol on Feb 27, 2009 11:39:16 GMT -6
It was always my experience that when a game was televised on ESPN2 the student section got considerably more annoying. All the students who just want to get drunk and be on tv would come.
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Post by jayrob on Feb 27, 2009 11:44:07 GMT -6
That's what we have in the SBGC. But we don't have authority or an ability to police the people that are there for the first time or drunk. We can set an example, we can yell at them tell them to be respectful but we cannot do anything if they tell us to F_ck Off. We can set an example, we can only do so much. Not to sound like an ass but frankly I feel bad for the fans that get offended and whatnot cause some d-bag said something. But what do you really expect at a sporting event, esp in college. have you not been to a Brewers game where people yell anything and everything do you think it's going to change in college basketball. If your offended by what someone says, hey im sorry but frankly its going to happen, and you know that. Nothing can be done, you can not arrest someone for yelling something at some player and it offended you in the seat. Deal with it, I guess I feel sorry for those of you who aren't offended. This is your school, be proud of it. I can guarantee you that it is not this way at every sporting event. Having been an avid fan at many different sporting events for 6 years at another public university, I can assure you that we did not include any comments like this in our chants. The fact that there are people who just shrug their shoulders and say "deal with it" is half the problem.
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Post by PantherU on Feb 27, 2009 13:49:24 GMT -6
Korry, I'm not in the party section, I'm 5 rows in front of it, just like I'm 5 rows behind you...to be the intermediary and get chants from you to the back.
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Post by DunneDeal on Feb 27, 2009 13:50:37 GMT -6
Tell us how to police it then...don't say to stop it..cause I will say that no active poster starts these chants
Edit: We are not as bad as the UW students, they were quoted on ESPN as the worse students in the country.
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