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Post by mcdadenets50 on Jan 31, 2006 16:46:12 GMT -6
I've stayed out of the Bobbi fray but have one simple question after reading this article, UWM gets assignment for Bracket Buster, www.jsonline.com/sports/coll/jan06/388686.aspShe mentions Missouri State's RPI of 41. Would it kill her to mention that Milwaukee's currently sits at 18th? Why Bobbi why? |
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Post by milwsport on Jan 31, 2006 19:47:15 GMT -6
Why should she?
It's a news article.
She mentioned their RPI because most fans wouldn't know they are a good team without that. What would be the point of mentioning ours? It's not news and has been put out there before.
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Post by nohopspanther on Jan 31, 2006 22:02:26 GMT -6
I hope you're kidding Milwsport, the point of the article was to list a comparison between UWM and Missouri St. Our rpi should have definitely been included in that along with Mid-major top 25 rankings. It isn't hard to dig up the info as a journalist. For an example of a good college beat person, check out Jeff Potrykus.
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Post by JimmyLemke on Jan 31, 2006 22:09:52 GMT -6
I hope you're kidding Milwsport, the point of the article was to list a comparison between UWM and Missouri St. Our rpi should have definitely been included in that along with Mid-major top 25 rankings. It isn't hard to dig up the info as a journalist. For an example of a good college beat person, check out Jeff Potrykus. Mid major top 25 rankings are not recognized by many people, and I've never seen the JS even mention it. |
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Post by nohopspanther on Jan 31, 2006 22:13:19 GMT -6
You haven't done much reading.
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Post by mcdadenets50 on Jan 31, 2006 22:40:53 GMT -6
Why shouldn't she?? Milwaukee's RPI is as high as it has EVER been this late in the season; mention that as much as possible. God knows MU's and UW's RPI are all over the JS. That article was not written for the UWM fan. It was written for the hoops fan who would not have known Milwaukee and MO State were paired together. What a perfect time to mention that Milwaukee has a higher RPI than about 300 colleges and universities. I guess mentioning our RPI would make too much sense...or involved too much research. Garbage. |
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Post by Pantherholic on Jan 31, 2006 22:56:14 GMT -6
What would be the point of mentioning ours? It's not news and has been put out there before. 1. our RPI changes almost daily (regardless of how much) 2. are you really expecting the average Sports section reader to remember what she said our RPI was besides "pretty good right"? would it hurt her to compares theirs to ours considering the RPI was a factor in us being paired w/ them in the first place? btw- i wanna say thanks to Kraw for posting daily updates on our RPI and noteworthy games. keep up the good work! |
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Post by milwsport on Feb 1, 2006 0:53:50 GMT -6
News papers write about news. They keep their readers informed. The readers of UWM articles already know we have a high RPI. They don't know what Missouri's State's is. That is news to them.
Writers also have editors, its possible she did mention it and it was edited out for space.
Bobbi has written more about us then we've ever gotten from any UWM beat writer in the past and it seems all some people can do is pick apart just about everything she writes.
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Post by bball30 on Feb 1, 2006 9:11:19 GMT -6
I agree with half of what you say here. I have stayed out of this Bobbi thing so far, as I believe this is actually my first post about it. Yes, I think she should have included UWM's RPI in her article also. One of the first rules of credibility in journalism and public speaking is Point - Counterpoint. HOWEVER, I feel she is WAY over criticized on this board at times. I agree with milwsport that the amount of coverage is nothing to complain about, this IS what all of us wanted. And as beggers, we shouldn't be choosers.
GO PANTHERS
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Post by PantherLou on Feb 1, 2006 9:29:45 GMT -6
After multiple e-mail exchanges with Bobbi, I have come to this conclusion.:
The JS is not doing much to help Bobbi as UWM's beat writer. She is given difficult deadline requirements, and pretty stringent editor reviews. I get the feeling that the issue really is with Garry Howard, the Sports Editor at the JS.
I don't know this, but I would be willing to bet that any reference to our RPI is not allowed, just the same as any reference to us as "Milwaukee" is not allowed. Not sure what the reasoning is for this, but i can tell you that I think it stinks.
(Keep in mind that this is based on my opinion, not any direct quote)
p.s. milwsport, you continually seem to be blindly defending the Bobbi and the JS. While I agree that Bobbi gets too much criticism, you are kidding yourself if you think that they are doing a great job.
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Post by dylanrocks on Feb 1, 2006 10:16:13 GMT -6
Two things:
1, I agree 100 percent with Lou's post. Clearly, there are factors at play that are way out of Bobbi's control.
2, How many times has UWM's RPI been mentioned in the J-S. (Frankly, I don't remember it being published once.)
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Post by PantherLou on Feb 1, 2006 11:21:55 GMT -6
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Post by SRT4driver on Feb 1, 2006 11:42:40 GMT -6
I've seen our RPI listed in past years in the paper, but don't remember seeing it in any article posted on JSonline this season. Emmett Prosser has mentioned it several times on his blog (calling it "inflated" among other derisive comments). Does that count?  His blog posts lately (Jan. 23-present) regarding the RPI have been somewhat more intelligent, though. It sounds like he was just taking cheap-shots at the RPI earlier in the year because he failed to understand how it works, but is starting to have a better grasp on it lately (heavy emphasis on starting to). I like how he says "Some of this number crunching is just out of whack. New calculators are needed." New calculators?!? You mean like the ones that kept a sorry-ass Louisville team in the top 25 weeks and weeks after they should have been booted? No thanks Emmett, but I think I prefer something that takes stupidity & bias OUT of the equation. It's no wonder the selection committee utilizes it. www.jsonline.com/sports/site/weblogs.asp?id=55&month=1&year=2006 |
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Post by damasa on Feb 1, 2006 11:53:36 GMT -6
This Prosser fellow has no freaking idea what he's talking about when it comes to RPI. Just another tool that has his tongue up Marquette's collective bunger.
I think he needs a new calculator.
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Post by milwsport on Feb 1, 2006 14:29:22 GMT -6
p.s. milwsport, you continually seem to be blindly defending the Bobbi and the JS. While I agree that Bobbi gets too much criticism, you are kidding yourself if you think that they are doing a great job. I'm not blindly defending them just pointing out the facts. They have given us more coverage than we've ever had before. It's not perfect but it is not horrid either. Constant sniping, showing no appreciation of the sea change in their attitude (and that's what it has been ) can lead them to think that no matter what they do they can't please us so why bother. The point is that people in general don't listen to those who are constantly criticizing their every move. Show some apprecitation, then make suggestions as in "It was a nice article but I wish they had mentioned our RPI too" instead of "Why Bobbi Why do you have to be so ignorant" (not the words used here but that seems to be the sentiment) |
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