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Post by UWMownsmarquette on Mar 27, 2005 19:06:30 GMT -6
If Pat is so great offer her the mens job and leave us Bruce
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Post by NeedMoreFans on Mar 27, 2005 20:15:34 GMT -6
I read the pros and cons, and one of the "pros" was he would not be behind anyone in terms of other teams/coaches in Tennessee. He would have to contend with John Calipari at Memphis (which should be a descent team in the empty CUSA next year, unless they too are jumping to the East?) and he would have to compete with his women's counterpart at Tennessee. On top of that, recruiting would be pretty difficult. Surrounding him would be Kentucky, Louisville, Memphis, Georgia Tech, UNC, Duke, Wake, 'Bama (the list goes on). Sure he's in the SEC, but all of those schools will go after the same recruits as Bruce would at Tennessee (though all the schools in NC recruit nationally). It doesn't matter how much money they can offer for recruiting, he'll have competition (granted, here he has UW, Marquette, Illinois, Mich. St., ect...).
Also, let's not forget Kevin O'Neil. I saw his name mentioned earlier. He left Marquette to go to a bigger school after basically rescuing Marquette. Look what happened...he spent a couple years at Tennessee and got no support and he ended up at Northwestern, by far and away a step down from what UWM is today. He regressed in his coaching career. I just don't think Tennessee has a rabid men's basketball fan base. They are a football school first, then a women's basketball school.
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Post by PantherAlumBB on Mar 27, 2005 20:30:22 GMT -6
If Pat is so great offer her the mens job and leave us Bruce
Exactly ! She is so great. If the AD at UT (Hamilton?) would hire her, he'd the Branch frickin' Rickey of college basketball. He would be taking an historical step. He wouldn't just be hiring a good coach, he'd be striking a blow for equality. Dare to be great, Rocky Top. Don't just change your basketball team, change the world !
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Post by Hack on Mar 27, 2005 22:33:20 GMT -6
Not taking anything away from Summitt. It's a great accomplishment. As great as Smith's? No way.
What I'm saying is the differences between the "haves" and the "have nots" in women's basketball is still fairly large. When you have a No. 1 seed beating a No. 8 or 9 seed by 50 points just a few days ago, that tells me there is still a huge gap.
Now just imagine how large that gap was 20 years ago.
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Post by volntitan on Mar 27, 2005 23:01:23 GMT -6
OK...just stopped in to see what is being said about Pearl. I am very excited about the possibility of getting him and think he would be an excellent choice. I can certainly understand Panther fans being upset about his leaving, if you weren't, I would be concerned. But I think you should be somewhat flattered at the attention your coach and program are getting. You certainly can't blame him for looking at stepping up.
Now, on to the misinformation on Pat Summitt. I cannot understand any uproar on naming the floor after her. There isn't a coach that deserves it more. She is the single most successful coach in her sport. Period. She is the leading pioneer who is credited with not only building the UT program, but women's BBall itself. As far as her playing "Helen Keller Univ", half of her 880 wins have been against ranked teams. No one in the sport of women's BBall plays a tougher schedule than UT...no one. The SEC is the toughest conference. All 12 of the out of conference teams on this year's schedule were tourney teams/ranked last year. She has the highest winning percentage in the NCAA Tournment.
I am not going to get into a debate about mens/womens BBall. It is different level of competition, but competition none the less. But to try to lessen the importance of what she has done for the sport of women's bball and the sport of bball itself.
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Post by Hack on Mar 27, 2005 23:13:44 GMT -6
Your point? Did I say what Summitt did wasn't a great accomplishment? No.
What I did say ... again ... is that Smith's accomplishment is more worth IN MY OPINION because there is greater competition in men's basketball.
I don't need a lecture telling me that women's basketball is a worthy sport. I've covered it for newspapers for nearly 10 years now and have been one of its biggest proponents.
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Post by Unimane on Mar 27, 2005 23:27:47 GMT -6
Personally, I don't think it is fair to compare the two, nor fair to say that Summitt is necessarily inferior than Smith. The two faced entirely different obstacles. It's true that Summitt has faced less difficult competition, but that disparity has also been something she's created. Smith never had to build a program from literally nothing. So, it's really not fair to compare.
Plus, another thing. There's all this big deal about Summitt passing Smith, but, last week, there was this big deal about Coach K at Duke being the all-time winningest coach in the tournament. Problem is, he's 20 games behind Summitt. I wonder why they compare Smith and Summitt, but not K and Summitt.
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Post by johnjaymilwaukee on Mar 27, 2005 23:29:42 GMT -6
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Post by johnjaymilwaukee on Mar 27, 2005 23:42:55 GMT -6
Sunday, 03/27/05 Pearl top choice for UT coaching jobBy CHRIS LOW Staff Writer KNOXVILLE — Wisconsin-Milwaukee's Bruce Pearl has moved to the forefront of Tennessee's search for a new men's basketball coach. Two other candidates, Alabama-Birmingham's Mike Anderson and Creighton's Dana Altman, withdrew their names from consideration yesterday. Anderson's agent, Jimmy Sexton, confirmed that he notified UT Athletics Director Mike Hamilton last night that Anderson was no longer a candidate. CHRIS LOW's coverage continues at: www.tennessean.com/sports/ut/archives/05/03/67478240.shtml?Element_ID=67478240tennessean.com Pearl moves up Tennessee's list
After weekend meeting, UWM coach awaits offerBy DAN MANOYAN dmanoyan@journalsentinel.com Posted: March 27, 2005 The Bruce Pearl era at UW-Milwaukee appears to be in its final stages after Pearl had a very positive meeting with University of Tennessee officials Saturday in Knoxville, Tenn. Pearl has emerged as the leading candidate for the vacant Volunteers coaching position after meeting with Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton and university President John D. Petersen. Pearl, who returned to Milwaukee on Sunday to tape his television show, said he was very interested in listening to Tennessee's overtures. Tennessee reportedly plans to offer Pearl a contract in excess of $1 million per year. His current contract at UWM pays him a salary of $275,000 per year, not including extras. DAN MANOYAN's coverage continues at: www.jsonline.com/sports/coll/mar05/313307.aspMilwaukee Journal Sentinel |
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Post by volntitan on Mar 27, 2005 23:43:26 GMT -6
There was a comment made infering that Summitt had "fluffed" up her record by playing sisters of the poor. I was just correcting your statement.
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Post by nohopspanther on Mar 27, 2005 23:51:16 GMT -6
Any women's team outside the top 25 is fluff. Women's teams are still hoarding talent like football used to because of the extra scholarships allowed. The difference between a have and have not is massive in women's ball.
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Post by Hack on Mar 27, 2005 23:52:36 GMT -6
Bingo. Not that it's Summitt's fault. She does put together an impressive schedule by women's bball standards.
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Post by volntitan on Mar 27, 2005 23:59:57 GMT -6
That is why Summitt rarely schedule teams outside of the top 25. Any teams in your conference you play, you can't really help. Here is the bottom line....Dean Smith, Great Coach. Pat Summitt, Great coach. I think they would both succeed at any level and both have tremendous respect for each other and both care less about all the hoopla.
OK...on to Pearl. As a UT fan, I will be the first to admit I am more of a football guy than a BBall guy, so I really don't know much about Pearl other than Illinois fans don't like him. What can you tell be about him, i.e. recruiting, floor coaching, x & o's? I know there is nothing settled, but I believe UT is going hard after him. I know there are some players on the UT team talking about leaving and recruits balking, so how Pearl approaches them would be key. That being said, I don't think you ever choose a coach because some high school kid says so. No player is bigger than a program in the long run.
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Post by nohopspanther on Mar 28, 2005 0:04:39 GMT -6
Quite frankly, I hope he gets paid since he's headed to the coaching graveyard of Tenn men's b-ball. It's a team I've watched go through coaches and players like grass through a goose. Good luck though, Bama will already hate him.
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Post by Unimane on Mar 28, 2005 0:06:11 GMT -6
Pearl's teams play at a fast tempo. A lot of pressing and trap defenses, 1-2-1-1 press (Diamond Press) and 1-2-2 halfcourt. And they play with INTENSITY. I watched a Panther game this year and thought this was what I wanted to see all those years I watched the Vols try to win by just being better athletes.
On offense, Pearl like to utilize the three-point shot, UWM chucked up a bunch, but is very adept at running a half court offense when the defense takes away the three. I really like how Pearl spread out the offense in the NCAA's when Bama and BC made adjustments and allowed Tucker to break down defenses.
As a UT fan, you can be happy that you'll get a great coach, much better than Buzz or Jerry. One who can make adjustments and get his players to play to the best of their abilities (And, a new concept at UT, player development.)
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