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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 13:50:53 GMT -6
Post by PANTHERfan on Jan 11, 2005 13:50:53 GMT -6
i totally forgot about the turner event. they actually sent out the info in their email to alumni. here it is:
Men’s Basketball Rallies You can rally before the big rivalry on Saturday, January 15 as the Panther Men’s Basketball team takes on UW-Green Bay. The rally starts at 11:30 a.m. on the second floor of Turner Hall, before the 1 p.m. game at the U.S. Cellular Arena. You’ll hear Coach’s Chalk Talk and enjoy performances from the UWM cheerleaders and team mascot Victor E. Panther. There will also be a cash bar and sandwich plates available for purchase.
Can’t make it on the 15th? There will be another rally (same place, same time) on Saturday, February 5 before the Panthers vs. UIC game. Turner Hall is located at 1034 N. 4th Street across from the U.S. Cellular Arena. For game ticket information, call the Panther Ticket Office at (414) 229-5886.
Men’s Basketball Rally in Green Bay Rally before the game and see Coach Bruce Pearl’s UWM Panthers play UW-Green Bay at the Resch Center in Green Bay on Saturday, January 20. The tailgate buffet and Coach’s Chalk Talk begin at 5:30 p.m. on the second floor of the Resch Center, located at 1901 S. Oneida Street. The Panthers take on the UW-GB Phoenix there at 7:05 p.m. Tickets are $25 per person and include the tailgate and game tickets. A cash bar will be available.
For parking, the Lambeau Field lot will be accessible for $5. Or, avoid the drive from the Milwaukee area and hop on the bus with students and other fans. A bus will leave campus from Merrill Hall at 3:15 p.m. to transport riders to the Resch Center in time for the 5:30 tailgate. Call the Panther Ticket Office for more details about the bus trip packages. For further event information, contact Peppy O’Neill at the Alumni Office at (414) 906-4655 or peppy@uwm.edu.
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 14:02:04 GMT -6
Post by Guido13 on Jan 11, 2005 14:02:04 GMT -6
This sounds cool, and I had no idea about it either, isn't there a mailing list for stuff like this? Otherwise I am willing to start one and even orginize some official gatherings. I don't want to get into all the official Alum. Assoc. stuff but geez, I get enough letters asking for money you'd think I could get one about this, both my wife and I are grads!?!?!?! Not really mad at anyone, just want to find the best place to have a good time, I had my hopes up for a BBQ rib sando at Goolsby's but if the party is at Turner's I'm headed there.
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 14:52:54 GMT -6
Post by uwmfootball on Jan 11, 2005 14:52:54 GMT -6
The bottom line is we need more help everywhere (especially in my situation), and we are just trying to get ready for a doubleheader on saturday, along with another game on monday.
I have been on both sides of the fence, and I see both arguments. I think that the department, given its resources, has done a wonderful job, but I believe that athletics has almost too much pressure placed on it to do everything for its program. Other groups must step up and take a share of that load, and until the new director of the AA is announced, its gonna be difficult.
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 15:00:02 GMT -6
Post by bball30 on Jan 11, 2005 15:00:02 GMT -6
I know I have posted on here before about people placing too much blame on the athletic department, and how they do what they can with the budget that the have. But I would just like to say one more time, THERE ARE ABOUT 15 OTHER ATHLETIC PROGRAMS ON THIS CAMPUS. A lot of money goes into those as well, although you may not go to a swimming and diving meet, you still need officials, concessions, and amenities for the other athletes that are participating. Please, take some time to consider attending some of these other events, all while continuing to support the bball program. Mens and Womens, thank you,
GO PANTERS
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 15:13:00 GMT -6
Post by Hack on Jan 11, 2005 15:13:00 GMT -6
Can they please dump women's tennis and add women's bowling?
;D
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 15:13:26 GMT -6
Post by Hack on Jan 11, 2005 15:13:26 GMT -6
Or Panthers even.
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 15:56:17 GMT -6
Post by Guido13 on Jan 11, 2005 15:56:17 GMT -6
I'm not really blaming anyone, or any orginization, but how much does it cost to have flyers printed and mailed once a week? Or not even mailed, make a sked of events, print up 20,000 copies of it and distribute it on campus and at games... ...Again, I'm not blaming anyone, when I went to school at UWM, there was no fan support or cool crap ever going on so I am excited about anything that gets put together.
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 16:14:06 GMT -6
Post by pnthr30 on Jan 11, 2005 16:14:06 GMT -6
I know I have posted on here before about people placing too much blame on the athletic department, and how they do what they can with the budget that the have. But I would just like to say one more time, THERE ARE ABOUT 15 OTHER ATHLETIC PROGRAMS ON THIS CAMPUS. A lot of money goes into those as well, although you may not go to a swimming and diving meet, you still need officials, concessions, and amenities for the other athletes that are participating. Please, take some time to consider attending some of these other events, all while continuing to support the bball program. Mens and Womens, thank you, GO PANTERS Just to clarify, there are six men's intercollegiate athletic teams (keeping swimming/diving together and cross country/track together) and seven womwen's intercollegiate athletic teams (keeping swimming/diving together and cross country/track together). With that being said, it is CRITICAL, not nice, but CRITICAL, especially at a mid major (that is not the #1 publically funded school in the state) to milk whatever they can out of each program. Seeing as how men's bball is BY FAR the most attended sports program at UWM it is CRITICAL to keep fans interested and at the games. The Cell is not cheap, and the athletic department (assuming competent management) should by all means spend more time, money and effort pushing the men's bball team. You can jump down my throat all you want about equal opportunity this and that, but is the women's tennis team really helping support the athletic department? I am in no way, shape, or form, saying that I am against the other sports, women's sports, or anything else you want to try to twist my words into, but you gotta make hay when the sun is shining. I had MANY, MANY friends that participated in other sports at UWM, and I can honestly say, that I saw at least one event in every sport (swimming, but no diving, and track but no cross country). All I am saying is that the budget as a whole is slim......but it should not be (and isn't) split up evenly. There needs to continue to be more time, energy, and money devoted to marketing the sports that make money, whatever they are (women's bball, soccer, etc.) The men's bball team is starting to gain momentum and notarity around the area - we need to find a way to milk that. For example, iIf Ed gets hot, like he did in the Detroit game, we would be mad as hell if BP took him out and suddenly became an "equal opportunity" coach and put in player "x" from the bench because he went to practice just like Ed did and he felt bad for him. .............This isn't grade school ball here, we are playing DI ball at a high level, if you can't cut it you sit on the bench. The same needs to be true when you are counting pennies - feeling need to be put aside and the hard numbers need to be looked at. Besides being partial to bball, from a strictly business perspective, the athletic department must strive to make any money they can, however they can (namely by putting butts in the seats) all the while keeping the other balls in the air. It isn't easy, don't get me wrong, but college athletics is about money, like it or not. With all that being said, I think we were talking about the lack of advertising by the Alumni Association for their "get together"............not the athletic department.
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 19:52:42 GMT -6
Post by bball30 on Jan 11, 2005 19:52:42 GMT -6
Pnthr30 I am not saying that you need to split funds up equally, please dont twist my words as I have not done that to yours. I am not on here to be a pain in the you know what, however it is frustrating sometimes the lack of comprehension that SOME, not all, people have on the university's situation as a whole. Obviously bball gets the majority of the money, and obviously it is the most attended. However, these other sports do need some attention. That is all that I was saying. On a further note, as far as UWM playing bball on a "high" level, I would have to disagree. Now hear me out on this one please, before whoever reads this jumps to any conclusions. As far is if you don't cut it, you sit the bench, that applies at all levels. I have played AAU basketball my entire life, and been around sports my entire life, and I have seen many many teams as young as 4th grade, (not even an AAU team) going by the theory of if you don't cut it, you sit the bench. Winning ONE, YES ONE confrence title does not constitue a move to US cellular, a plethora of media coverage, all of the states recruits, and so on. Until UWM starts doing these things year in and year out, people have no reason to complain. Not one time this year has UWM had over 5,000 people. DO YOU ALL THINK THAT CONSTITUTES A MOVE TO THE US CELLULAR ARENA? ? I don't. Until the Klotsche Center was a "tough ticket" to get, there was no reason for a move. Now this was a decision to move there based off of one season. Don't you guys think the money for the move could have been spent on promoting other things within the bball program? I for one do. Our beloved coach Pearl pushed for the move, however i disagree with the push..... as of yet. UWM struggles to get 1,000 students at their games downtown, I could only imagine the student attendance numbers being higher at the Klotsche. Not to mention the fact we are one of the only D1 programs where students do not have to pay for tickets seperate, it is included in tuition. Not meaning to rant on anyone in particular, just some of the thoughts i have on this whole issue. Hope all have a good weekend, and a safe drive to the arena on saturday. GO PANTHERS!
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 21:56:55 GMT -6
Post by spgrl on Jan 11, 2005 21:56:55 GMT -6
Just a side note, but in order to maintain D I status an institution must have 7 mens & 7 womens sports (or 6 mens & 8 womens sports).
Ours breakdown M BASE M BKB M CROSS M SOC M SWM/DIVE M TRK/FLD OUTDOOR M TRK/FLD INDOOR
W BKB W CROSS W SOC W SWM/DIV W TENNIS W TRK/FLD OUTDOOR W TRK/FLD INDOOR W VOLLEYBALL
In addition, membership of teams (i.e., number of players on the teams) must be equal men's vs. womens. Due to baseball being larger than its offset (W volleyball) W Tennis is used to balance out the numbers.
The NCAA also has a part in dividing funds among sports and gender equity is always an issue.
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UW-GB
Jan 11, 2005 23:41:25 GMT -6
Post by brettpanther17 on Jan 11, 2005 23:41:25 GMT -6
im not going to jump to either side on this issue because no matter which side you take you cannot win the argument. but i agree with the comments about more funds going to the sport that draws in the most revenue. but i also agree that all of the sports whether mens baseball or womens tennis need an equal oppurtunity to put a competive team on their field of play which involves spending much of the money that is made by mens basketball(at this university) or football at say... USC or Miami i personally think that the basketball team should be able to keep a percentage of their revenue for themselves as a reward for putting a competitive team on the floor day in and day out and then dispursing those other funds equally amongst the rest of the sports.
Great topic i see lots of discussion ahead but we have a 2 games to win this week.
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UW-GB
Jan 12, 2005 2:21:11 GMT -6
Post by fan22 on Jan 12, 2005 2:21:11 GMT -6
Long, long, long time since I've last posted. still getting over finals. I have not given my opinions in a long time. i think we will beat uwgb big. My new years resolution is to start being bold with perdictions, and I think we will win by 15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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UW-GB
Jan 12, 2005 7:58:00 GMT -6
Post by UWMKrazie on Jan 12, 2005 7:58:00 GMT -6
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the move to the US Cellular prompted by Klotsche construction and lack of parking?
It's a win lose situation either way. At the KC, it's probably easier to get students from the dorms, and all around for that matter. It also looks a lot more full with sub 5,000 attendance.
However, the USC is definately a step forward. Having Goolsby's to meet at before the game and water steet just blocks away for a big win celebration. Plus, when hosting the HL tournament there's less unfamiliarity and more of a homecourt advantage.
Let's face it, few of us attended the "extra" sports in highschool, so why would we start now? Start attending out of pitty?
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UW-GB
Jan 12, 2005 8:28:32 GMT -6
Post by Hack on Jan 12, 2005 8:28:32 GMT -6
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the move to the US Cellular prompted by Klotsche construction and lack of parking? Why yes it was. Ideally, I wish the construction at the KC would've included converting the facility into a basketball arena bowl setting.
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UW-GB
Jan 12, 2005 8:34:23 GMT -6
Post by jvaldon on Jan 12, 2005 8:34:23 GMT -6
ok, the attendence at the cell has been sub 5000 every game according to you, i didnt look that up so i'll just take your word. look at who we have played and when we have played. before 2nd semester starts we will have had 5 home confrence games played, none of them while the students are at school. air force was on thanksgiving weekend. so that is 6 of our 9 home games played when students arent on campus. i would think that hurts attendance. after this we have only 3 more home regular season games. but i can bet you that these will have much better attendance being UIC, Butler, and Youngstown State. if these games were held at klosche during 2nd semester it would be a fight to get into the games. the move to the cell is nessesary. hell even this weekend the gb game will draw over 7,000. i just cant believe that people cant see the need to move to the cell....even if the klosche wasnt under construction i think the move is justified. the program is growing and hopefully will continue to grow. staying at klosche would be like dressing a fat man in a medium shirt.
as for the supporting other sports...im not an athlete and this may be an uneducated opinion, but i'll give it anyways. wouldnt the members of other sports at uwm enjoy the fact that basketball is doing well? they may wish their sport had all the attention, but with the exception of soccer they dont draw a crowd or make money for uwm. Basketball does though, and will make more and more the better and bigger it gets. this will help keep all of the programs afloat here at uwm. the school should put its money where it will get the best return.
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