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Post by PantherU on Mar 27, 2024 16:27:58 GMT -6
We're going to be fine. Erik Pratt is 80% of the player BJ is on offense and he's a better defender. Move him up, bring in McKee and we're just about the same team as we sit. Really wanna get Faizon another post partner who is strong defensively (hopefully stronger) besides Duffy in case one of those guys gets hurt.
If we maintain the rest of the current roster, I'm excited because we're mostly adding depth pieces. I think Elijah could really use an offseason focusing on deprioritizing his own shot in favor of his teammates, some of his best games offensively have been because he looked to get others a shot before himself.
But some of these comments make BJ sound like he was a good but not great player. He's literally top 10, possibly top 5 all-time Panthers. Look at the stats. #3 and #8 seasons all-time for points per game. #1 points per game all-time for anyone who played more than one year (essentially removing Von McDade). Led the Horizon League in assists and by the end of the season, scoring. Like a lot of elite Panthers, he was held back on end of the year voting. POTY caliber season in a year when 3-4 guys had POTY caliber seasons.
Defensively average at best, sure, but let's not act like the guy wasn't one of the all-time greats.
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Post by runninpanthers on Mar 27, 2024 17:00:06 GMT -6
41.0998° N, 80.6495° W
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Post by ghostofpbj on Mar 27, 2024 17:14:57 GMT -6
We're going to be fine. Erik Pratt is 80% of the player BJ is on offense and he's a better defender. Move him up, bring in McKee and we're just about the same team as we sit. Really wanna get Faizon another post partner who is strong defensively (hopefully stronger) besides Duffy in case one of those guys gets hurt. If we maintain the rest of the current roster, I'm excited because we're mostly adding depth pieces. I think Elijah could really use an offseason focusing on deprioritizing his own shot in favor of his teammates, some of his best games offensively have been because he looked to get others a shot before himself. But some of these comments make BJ sound like he was a good but not great player. He's literally top 10, possibly top 5 all-time Panthers. Look at the stats. #3 and #8 seasons all-time for points per game. #1 points per game all-time for anyone who played more than one year (essentially removing Von McDade). Led the Horizon League in assists and by the end of the season, scoring. Like a lot of elite Panthers, he was held back on end of the year voting. POTY caliber season in a year when 3-4 guys had POTY caliber seasons. Defensively average at best, sure, but let's not act like the guy wasn't one of the all-time greats. I wanted to weigh in on the people saying he was good but not great. That’s total BS and you all know it. It’s backed up by the statistics here and we all know he deserved to be 1st team all HL in both seasons here. The fact he wasn’t just shows that those awards have just as much to do with politics as anything. A lot of you all saying good but not great as your argument are just living in the past, thinking nobody could possibly top former Panthers you watched years ago just because the team was possibly better. He was a huge reason why we even contended these past two years, maybe the biggest reason. I will say the turnovers were frustrating, but he was also given primary ball handler duties when that’s not how he is best used in an offense. Defensively, he is what he is. I know not many of us witnessed the 43-point game vs. Stetson in person during the CBI last year, but that was a masterclass of attacking the basket and that leading to opportunities from deep. I know for damn sure it was even more exciting to watch unfold right in front of my eyes. I can’t think of a better way for him to leave the MKE-GB rivalry than with two wins that completely demoralized their entire program and sent many players portaling shortly into the transfer window as well. Say what you want about BJ, but he is an all-time great Panther whether you like it or not.
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Post by mcdubbs on Mar 27, 2024 17:18:08 GMT -6
Since the news of BJ leaving, any chance we get Lovelace from YSU to come home?
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 27, 2024 17:26:10 GMT -6
I want McFarlane from Southeastern Louisiana!
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Post by thetruth on Mar 27, 2024 17:29:32 GMT -6
I saw BJ deleted his tweet from yesterday. I wonder why?
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 27, 2024 17:33:52 GMT -6
We're going to be fine. Erik Pratt is 80% of the player BJ is on offense and he's a better defender. Move him up, bring in McKee and we're just about the same team as we sit. Really wanna get Faizon another post partner who is strong defensively (hopefully stronger) besides Duffy in case one of those guys gets hurt. If we maintain the rest of the current roster, I'm excited because we're mostly adding depth pieces. I think Elijah could really use an offseason focusing on deprioritizing his own shot in favor of his teammates, some of his best games offensively have been because he looked to get others a shot before himself. But some of these comments make BJ sound like he was a good but not great player. He's literally top 10, possibly top 5 all-time Panthers. Look at the stats. #3 and #8 seasons all-time for points per game. #1 points per game all-time for anyone who played more than one year (essentially removing Von McDade). Led the Horizon League in assists and by the end of the season, scoring. Like a lot of elite Panthers, he was held back on end of the year voting. POTY caliber season in a year when 3-4 guys had POTY caliber seasons. Defensively average at best, sure, but let's not act like the guy wasn't one of the all-time greats. I wanted to weigh in on the people saying he was good but not great. That’s total BS and you all know it. It’s backed up by the statistics here and we all know he deserved to be 1st team all HL in both seasons here. The fact he wasn’t just shows that those awards have just as much to do with politics as anything. A lot of you all saying good but not great as your argument are just living in the past, thinking nobody could possibly top former Panthers you watched years ago just because the team was possibly better. He was a huge reason why we even contended these past two years, maybe the biggest reason. I will say the turnovers were frustrating, but he was also given primary ball handler duties when that’s not how he is best used in an offense. Defensively, he is what he is. I know not many of us witnessed the 43-point game vs. Stetson in person during the CBI last year, but that was a masterclass of attacking the basket and that leading to opportunities from deep. I know for damn sure it was even more exciting to watch unfold right in front of my eyes. I can’t think of a better way for him to leave the MKE-GB rivalry than with two wins that completely demoralized their entire program and sent many players portaling shortly into the transfer window as well. Say what you want about BJ, but he is an all-time great Panther whether you like it or not. B.J. is an all-time program great offensive player. One of the most prolific scorers of all time. Of course, this sport has two sides to the court. Does anyone here recall how Clay Tucker used to defend? Or Ed McCants? Or Boo Davis? Remember how they jumped the passing lanes and dived on the floor? Remember how Boo stoned "The Real Deal" Michael Neal in our upset of No. 21 Oklahoma in the 2006 NCAA Tournament, all while scoring a game-high 26 points on 7 of 15 from the field and 8 of 10 from the line? Remember what a nuisance C-Hill was? Those guys were fully invested on both sides of the court. It's what set them apart and ultimately set those '03-'06 TEAMS apart
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Post by ghostofpbj on Mar 27, 2024 17:36:34 GMT -6
I want McFarlane from Southeastern Louisiana! He’s being heavily pursued by a fair amount of schools. We do have a connection, but idk if it is strong enough to get him here. We will see
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Post by ghostofdylan on Mar 27, 2024 17:50:41 GMT -6
I saw BJ deleted his tweet from yesterday. I wonder why? OK, who ponied up the $500,000?!
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 27, 2024 18:04:54 GMT -6
BJs game is a perfect fit for European Pro leagues. That said, I heard Trey Townsend could command up to 500k in NIL money for his services. I would bet BJ would be in a similar stratosphere. I might come off as out of touch, but I hate how NIL is being used. Sure, I wanted the kids to get paid for their NIL, but I don’t think it’s good for the sport to be using it to lure kids to certain schools to play. What I mean by this: Trey Townsend and JG doing a BW3 commercial after beating Kentucky , yes pay them. Trey being offered 500k to go play for Kentucky , not good. I know there is no way to police this, but I just think the new landscape of paying players upwards of a million dollars and getting a scholarship will ultimately hurt the sport, especially combined with the new transfer rules. BJ's lack of defensive effort would mean he wouldnt see the floor in any decent European league. The floor talent wise overseas has gone up considerably in the last 20 years. 0 reason to skip a year of college to go to europe now with NIL. I wonder when the last time you've actually watched some euroleague hoops was Buppie
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 27, 2024 18:09:00 GMT -6
We're going to be fine. Erik Pratt is 80% of the player BJ is on offense and he's a better defender. Move him up, bring in McKee and we're just about the same team as we sit. Really wanna get Faizon another post partner who is strong defensively (hopefully stronger) besides Duffy in case one of those guys gets hurt. If we maintain the rest of the current roster, I'm excited because we're mostly adding depth pieces. I think Elijah could really use an offseason focusing on deprioritizing his own shot in favor of his teammates, some of his best games offensively have been because he looked to get others a shot before himself. But some of these comments make BJ sound like he was a good but not great player. He's literally top 10, possibly top 5 all-time Panthers. Look at the stats. #3 and #8 seasons all-time for points per game. #1 points per game all-time for anyone who played more than one year (essentially removing Von McDade). Led the Horizon League in assists and by the end of the season, scoring. Like a lot of elite Panthers, he was held back on end of the year voting. POTY caliber season in a year when 3-4 guys had POTY caliber seasons. Defensively average at best, sure, but let's not act like the guy wasn't one of the all-time greats. I know we will be fine, because we were generally the same level team without BJ last season as we were with BJ. Cactus pulled up the stats multiple times. One only has to rewatch the HL Final to see we played better without BJ on the floor that game. Away at IUPUI was another example of such a game. Good offensive player yes, Great sometimes on offense Yes. Defensively some large issues that made the team had to literally drop into a zone when he was on the floor. I think some people just didnt watch him play defense. Bart made the mistake not holding him accountable on that end earlier in the year, maybe for the worry that he would enter the portal because of it who knows.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 27, 2024 18:21:21 GMT -6
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 27, 2024 18:36:33 GMT -6
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Post by runninpanthers on Mar 27, 2024 18:42:18 GMT -6
Alright, you got hint number one. Here’s hint number two : 43° 9′ 55.4″ N, 87° 58′ 57.8″ W
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Post by uwmpanther on Mar 27, 2024 18:45:30 GMT -6
Alright, you got hint number one. Here’s hint number two : 43° 9′ 55.4″ N, 87° 58′ 57.8″ W ah, local talent!
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