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Post by Petes on Mar 22, 2024 9:49:46 GMT -6
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 22, 2024 14:18:56 GMT -6
Or losing 4 of 5 and then crashing out to temple in the conference tournament talks. Dude hasn’t exactly won much and they are moving up to the ACC no reason to stick with average coaches when you don’t have too. We should know all about riding with a crap coach for too long and the damage it can do.
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Post by PantherU on Mar 22, 2024 17:20:25 GMT -6
Or losing 4 of 5 and then crashing out to temple in the conference tournament talks. Dude hasn’t exactly won much and they are moving up to the ACC no reason to stick with average coaches when you don’t have too. We should know all about riding with a crap coach for too long and the damage it can do. Yeah Bo Ryan was here way too long
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Post by Pantherholic on Mar 22, 2024 18:09:04 GMT -6
I'm curious how much longer Calipari is going to last in Lexington. They haven't survived the first weekend since 2019, including a 9-win season in '20-21. For any other coach, this would've been grounds for termination.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Mar 22, 2024 18:26:17 GMT -6
I'm curious how much longer Calipari is going to last in Lexington. They haven't survived the first weekend since 2019, including a 9-win season in '20-21. For any other coach, this would've been grounds for termination. There are $34,968,749 reasons for him to stay. But this is UK, so maybe those are not enough reasons. From today's Louisville Courier Sentinel: According to the terms of a new contract he signed in 2019, Calipari would be owed a buyout of $34,968,749 as of April 1 if he is fired without cause.
Calipari’s new deal came during an offseason in which he received interest from UCLA for its vacant head coaching position, which ultimately went to Mick Cronin. At the time, it was described as a “lifetime contract,” though the 10-year deal worth a total of $86 million isn’t technically that. It’s just financially onerous for the university to get out of should it want to move on from its coach.
As large as that buyout figure is, a school stomaching such a massive payment to an ousted coach isn’t unprecedented. Last year, Texas A&M paid fired football coach Jimbo Fisher more than $75 million to buy out the remaining years on his fully guaranteed contract.
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Post by Pantherholic on Mar 22, 2024 20:09:32 GMT -6
I'm curious how much longer Calipari is going to last in Lexington. They haven't survived the first weekend since 2019, including a 9-win season in '20-21. For any other coach, this would've been grounds for termination. There are $34,968,749 reasons for him to stay. But this is UK, so maybe those are not enough reasons. The new SEC tv contract with ESPN begins this next year as well as any offsetting money he'd make at his next coaching job will help alleviate this issue. My guess is he'll get one more year and few things short of a Final 4 appearance will save him.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Mar 22, 2024 22:19:57 GMT -6
Or losing 4 of 5 and then crashing out to temple in the conference tournament talks. Dude hasn’t exactly won much and they are moving up to the ACC no reason to stick with average coaches when you don’t have too. We should know all about riding with a crap coach for too long and the damage it can do. Yeah Bo Ryan was here way too long if we just made the right hire after Robbie j we probably aren’t even in this league anymore. The guy who wanted this job currently has his team as a two seed and fills it with Wisconsin kids. Can’t live in the past but my contacts told my jeter alienated the local talent and clearly that’s been a big issue for us. People always ask why some local kid comes back and sh*ts on us. Well it’s cause we don’t recruit them the right way. Seems Lundy atleast sees the talent
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Post by PantherU on Mar 23, 2024 10:44:44 GMT -6
Yeah Bo Ryan was here way too long if we just made the right hire after Robbie j we probably aren’t even in this league anymore. The guy who wanted this job currently has his team as a two seed and fills it with Wisconsin kids. Can’t live in the past but my contacts told my jeter alienated the local talent and clearly that’s been a big issue for us. People always ask why some local kid comes back and sh*ts on us. Well it’s cause we don’t recruit them the right way. Seems Lundy atleast sees the talent The problem with the local scene when you're the mid-major is everyone thinks their kid should be playing and starting for you, so if you don't recruit their kid because you don't think they will be a good fit or you think their talent isn't up to snuff, you can cause some bad feelings. It's easier for the parent of a City Conference kid to accept it when Marquette or Wisconsin doesn't recruit their son. That said - and I've brought this up in the past but often I write so much in posts that people get glossy-eyed and miss points - there were extenuating circumstances surrounding Jeter's program that limited some parts of recruiting. I know of two local players who Jeter's staff were not allowed to bring on-campus for an official visit because their grades were not NCAA qualifying at the time they submitted them to UWM. Both of those kids ended up qualifying and were All-Horizon League at other schools. If the university-imposed restrictions on Jeter's program post-2008 were in place from the start, Ricky Franklin would not have played here - and I'd say he's safely one of the 20-25 best players in program history. He's also a successful businessman who graduated with honors and learned a trade after college for that business, so I'd say he's a sterling example of how it matters less what grades a kid has in high school compared to what he will do with the opportunity to attend a great university like Milwaukee if given the chance. Now I will also say regarding Jeter that they never made Milwaukee a priority in recruiting. If they saw a kid they really wanted (Ricky Franklin, Anthony Hill) they'd go grab them, but they didn't really try hard to recruit a lot of Milwaukee kids. And I understand - why put the effort in once you see a kid's grades are borderline when you know the university is going to restrict your ability to recruit them? At the end of the day, the Jeter program was judged on its achievements - good, not great, steady but never soaring, shaky early on but consistent eventually - and those achievements were not good enough for our fan base. Pearl gave Panther fans a taste of the good life and we've been chasing that high ever since. Bart Lundy's been close two years now. I think he's the right guy for this job right now. My primary concern regarding the Jeter era is that Lundy's program is not shackled with any of the same restraints. I'm not here to relitigate the past. I'm here to shed light on how we need things to be moving forward. I've told every coach who has come through this program since Jeter was fired that we need to build a wall around southeast Wisconsin. Any kid who fits in at the mid-major level, our coaching staff needs to basically have first right of refusal. If you can do that you're dancing from the Horizon League every year.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 23, 2024 10:53:25 GMT -6
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Post by Petes on Mar 23, 2024 15:35:26 GMT -6
Or losing 4 of 5 and then crashing out to temple in the conference tournament talks. Dude hasn’t exactly won much and they are moving up to the ACC no reason to stick with average coaches when you don’t have too. We should know all about riding with a crap coach for too long and the damage it can do. And 98% of teams wouldn’t fire a coach after a 10 game improvement in their 2nd year even if they lost 4-5. But money talks and SMU will spend any dollar amount until they become relevant
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Mar 23, 2024 19:42:09 GMT -6
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