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Post by GoPanthersGo23 on Jan 21, 2024 13:05:57 GMT -6
To expand on our defensive woes, we are now allowing a whopping 81.8 points per game against our 17 Division 1 opponents. There are now 12 regular-season games left to straighten this out. Are we capable? Great opportunity to start on Thursday with Mercy.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Jan 21, 2024 14:02:43 GMT -6
I would be more worried about the defense if Lundy didn't address it in the post-game. Totally agree. The team started playing better after he started blaming the team’s poor performance on the team and the coach rather than the travel schedule earlier this year. You need to acknowledge the problem to fix it. If any of our “star” players don’t want to play defense, then we should bring in somebody who will give a full effort. Even if that guy is a walk on.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 21, 2024 14:39:57 GMT -6
Reflecting on this season, Lundy appears to have largely fixed the offense with Browning's dismissal, but hasn't yet been able to repair the defense.
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Post by TBone on Jan 21, 2024 18:53:47 GMT -6
Offense was easy to fix because we have a bunch of players that want to play offense.
Defense takes a different type of heart and desire, and I frankly haven't seen a whole lot of that heart and desire from the guards. The bigs show it. The guards playing the big portion of minutes - not so much. Hopefully coach can motivate them to find the attitude to play defense, but I don't think he's recruited the type of guys that have that attitude - or any semblance of a mix of offensive and defensive players at the guard position.
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Post by PantherU on Jan 21, 2024 19:16:19 GMT -6
Individually I have confidence in most players on the roster defensively. Together they have yet to really shine. I still think we lack true defensive presence in the post. Unfortunately, like the Bucks I think the Panthers are too reliant on the offense to outscore everyone.
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Post by mattg on Jan 21, 2024 20:20:06 GMT -6
Honestly the biggest problem that hasn't been consistently mentioned here is sort of that BJ has a garbage on court attitude. He didn't play a lick of defense last year, and this year he still doesn't. Dude walks up court in transition, never gets low in a stance, he flat out doesn't try on that end. And for better or for worse, teams follow the lead of their best player or perceived best player. I think ultimately that's a big thing with Lundy, he has trouble holding BJ accountable for anything he does, and the team follows that. BJ plays lazy asf defense, has suspect body language, and bad shot selection and the team has taken on all of that as their identity this year. It was a problem last year too.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Jan 22, 2024 9:30:22 GMT -6
I think the Panthers should press more. Sure we give up easy basketball off of it, yet we do already. It's seems like the guys get energy from it. I also don't think it needs to be a 2nd half thing when trailing. This would be a nice touch in the 1st half. Get bench guys mixed in. Guys like Stuart, Davis, Wilson, Murchison and Riek a run of turning the game into Panthers controlling the pace of the game.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 23, 2024 11:19:28 GMT -6
Lundy is now 26-22 against D-1 teams as the head coach at Milwaukee. Thanks for the much needed perspective. That's pretty good considering the state of the program when he got here. Of course, moving forward, I will be looking for the winning percentage to improve. This is an interesting point. Bart is now winning at a 54.2% clip against D-1 schools and 58.5% overall. What benchmarks are written into his contract? 60%? 65% In other words, what are the administration's expectations for our program? Are there any?!
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Post by TBone on Jan 23, 2024 12:17:16 GMT -6
Thanks for the much needed perspective. That's pretty good considering the state of the program when he got here. Of course, moving forward, I will be looking for the winning percentage to improve. This is an interesting point. Bart is now winning at a 54.1% clip against D-1 schools and 58.5% overall. What benchmarks are written into his contract? 60%? 65% In other words, what are the administration's expectations for our program? Are there any?! There may be a bit too much recency bias going on in this board. Did anyone envision at the time of the hire that within the first two years we'd make a post-season tournament for the first time in nine years and win a postseason tourney game for the first time in seventeen years? We've had a season and a half that's included a good year as well as half of a mediocre year at this point. It's far too early to be asking these types of questions. While the transfer portal makes it easy to "start from scratch", it has also changed everything with the ability for players to leave and having to re-recruit your own players each year. With the changes in the overall landscape of college athletics, a year and a half is just not enough time to know what you've got. You're going to need a coach that can re-recruit and build a team dynamically due to the turnover. Do we know that yet? We still have the offensive talent to compete in this conference and potentially win the league tournament. The question is can we come up with a defensive system that overcomes the defensive shortcomings of some of our players, or can we get them to step it up on the defensive side. (or both?) Let's all just take a deep breath. But if you really want an answer to that question, one really only needs to look at recent history with the AD to know what the administration's expectations truly are.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Jan 23, 2024 19:22:42 GMT -6
This is an interesting point. Bart is now winning at a 54.1% clip against D-1 schools and 58.5% overall. What benchmarks are written into his contract? 60%? 65% In other words, what are the administration's expectations for our program? Are there any?! There may be a bit too much recency bias going on in this board. Did anyone envision at the time of the hire that within the first two years we'd make a post-season tournament for the first time in nine years and win a postseason tourney game for the first time in seventeen years? We've had a season and a half that's included a good year as well as half of a mediocre year at this point. It's far too early to be asking these types of questions. While the transfer portal makes it easy to "start from scratch", it has also changed everything with the ability for players to leave and having to re-recruit your own players each year. With the changes in the overall landscape of college athletics, a year and a half is just not enough time to know what you've got. You're going to need a coach that can re-recruit and build a team dynamically due to the turnover. Do we know that yet? We still have the offensive talent to compete in this conference and potentially win the league tournament. The question is can we come up with a defensive system that overcomes the defensive shortcomings of some of our players, or can we get them to step it up on the defensive side. (or both?) Let's all just take a deep breath. But if you really want an answer to that question, one really only needs to look at recent history with the AD to know what the administration's expectations truly are.Here we go again. Theres no recency bias the conference is complete garbage. Also calling the CBI a postseason birth is hilarious. Pretty sure thats pay to play and we lost.
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Post by TBone on Jan 27, 2024 16:35:16 GMT -6
There may be a bit too much recency bias going on in this board. Did anyone envision at the time of the hire that within the first two years we'd make a post-season tournament for the first time in nine years and win a postseason tourney game for the first time in seventeen years? We've had a season and a half that's included a good year as well as half of a mediocre year at this point. It's far too early to be asking these types of questions. While the transfer portal makes it easy to "start from scratch", it has also changed everything with the ability for players to leave and having to re-recruit your own players each year. With the changes in the overall landscape of college athletics, a year and a half is just not enough time to know what you've got. You're going to need a coach that can re-recruit and build a team dynamically due to the turnover. Do we know that yet? We still have the offensive talent to compete in this conference and potentially win the league tournament. The question is can we come up with a defensive system that overcomes the defensive shortcomings of some of our players, or can we get them to step it up on the defensive side. (or both?) Let's all just take a deep breath. But if you really want an answer to that question, one really only needs to look at recent history with the AD to know what the administration's expectations truly are.Here we go again. Theres no recency bias the conference is complete garbage. Also calling the CBI a postseason birth is hilarious. Pretty sure thats pay to play and we lost. Here you go again... There's plenty of recency bias if people are questioning Bart as a coach based on the half season this year and not considering what he did in the first season with a bare cupboard. The CBI is a postseason birth - they invite teams. Yes, teams also pay to play, but they can't pay for the tournament without an invite. We beat Stetson in the CBI before losing to Charlotte.
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Jan 27, 2024 17:56:26 GMT -6
Here we go again. Theres no recency bias the conference is complete garbage. Also calling the CBI a postseason birth is hilarious. Pretty sure thats pay to play and we lost. Here you go again... There's plenty of recency bias if people are questioning Bart as a coach based on the half season this year and not considering what he did in the first season with a bare cupboard. The CBI is a postseason birth - they invite teams. Yes, teams also pay to play, but they can't pay for the tournament without an invite. We beat Stetson in the CBI before losing to Charlotte. Hang a banner we beat one of the worst teams in the country in a meaningless postseason game.
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Post by panther on Jan 27, 2024 18:30:02 GMT -6
IN BART WE TRUST ? LMAO !!!
GO BACK TO D2 BL AND TAKE THAT GOOFY LOOKING COACH WITH YOU !
SEASON IS OVER DISCUSSION BOARD......
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Post by reginaldkdwight on Jan 27, 2024 18:51:53 GMT -6
IN BART WE TRUST ? LMAO !!! GO BACK TO D2 BL AND TAKE THAT GOOFY LOOKING COACH WITH YOU ! SEASON IS OVER DISCUSSION BOARD...... Only the most rose colored glasses fans were saying in bart we trust. The dude needs to bring some legit D1 players in. Not sure who the hell you are but damn you have some of the stupidest takes on this board. Imagine signing in just to post some goober sh*t like this. Many of us have been here before Bart Before PBS before Jeter and the rest of them. We arent f***ing leaving. Youre more then welcome to go get a red shirt and join that bandwagon before they get knocked out in the first round again. The true fans will stick it out and do what we can to cheer the team on.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Jan 27, 2024 23:36:09 GMT -6
IN BART WE TRUST ? LMAO !!! GO BACK TO D2 BL AND TAKE THAT GOOFY LOOKING COACH WITH YOU ! SEASON IS OVER DISCUSSION BOARD...... Only the most rose colored glasses fans were saying in bart we trust. The dude needs to bring some legit D1 players in. Not sure who the hell you are but damn you have some of the stupidest takes on this board. Imagine signing in just to post some goober sh*t like this. Many of us have been here before Bart Before PBS before Jeter and the rest of them. We arent f***ing leaving. Youre more then welcome to go get a red shirt and join that bandwagon before they get knocked out in the first round again. The true fans will stick it out and do what we can to cheer the team on. Don’t be too harsh. He had a tough loss against Missouri State today.
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