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Post by buppie05 on Jan 18, 2024 20:29:26 GMT -6
18: Milwaukee turnovers 23-9 for NKY in 2nd chance points We certainly need to take care of the ball better. It will come. Need to find a balance between playing fast and being smart.
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Post by buppie05 on Jan 18, 2024 20:39:23 GMT -6
As for the officiating, I thought it was fine the first 17 minutes of the game. Lundy got into it regarding that BJ block vs foul, and I think that changed the course of the officiating.
Whether you think it was good or not, I don’t think Lundy and team are doing us any favors by b****ing at the refs. Refs are human, they make mistakes, and when they get questioned can take it to heart. I think that is one of the reasons Faizon doesn’t get calls going his way a lot.
Just my two cents.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 18, 2024 20:48:23 GMT -6
Again if you're whining about refs you're oblivious. It's hilarious to me that we have posters melting down about refs literally every single game. Just look at the shot chart this game. Over half our FG attempts from 3, not going to get calls. Then look at NKU's shot distribution and think hmm, maybe that's why they are getting calls. When you pressure the rim, you generally get more calls, it's happened for us this year too (and some of you still freaked out about refs that game even when we had stretches drawing shooting fouls on 5-6 possessions in a row).
The reality is we play zero defense. Lundy's teams are consistently giving up 90 points to opponents regardless of their talent level. We don't get back in transition EVER. We never stop the ball. Undisciplined Lundy ball just recklessly playing fast. Is what it is. Also, this game we scored 3 total points the last 7 minutes of the game. It was a 2 point game and then we couldn't execute on either end.
We aren't the team to beat in the HL. We can steal games for sure but some of y'all are straight up delusional, when we get beat wire to wire in these games and then come on here talking like "we are the team to beat". The one thing we are consistent at is being inconsistent.
How can anyone reasonably argue this? I think at some point perhaps all of us simply grew tired of posting, "Our defense is deficient, especially in transition."
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Jan 18, 2024 21:19:24 GMT -6
I wonder what this team would look like with Spencer. Wasn't he all league defense 2nd team.
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Post by Petes on Jan 18, 2024 23:01:24 GMT -6
At 71-69 with 7 minutes left here’s how the next 9 possessions went: Turnover Turnover Missed 3 Missed 3 Turnover Made 3 Missed 3 Missed 3 Turnover Down 85-72
Simply weren’t good enough down the stretch and then add that to the lack of made 3s, turnovers, disadvantage on the offensive glass, and lack of defense and we got what we deserve.
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Post by runninpanthers on Jan 19, 2024 0:47:51 GMT -6
We are a bottom 15 defensive team in the country. Worse than some SWAC/MEAC teams. Straight embarrassing. Playing like a mediocre AAU team. Start playing defense and maybe they can do something
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Jan 19, 2024 9:16:09 GMT -6
"We gave up points in transition and put them on the free throw line," head coach Bart Lundy said about the close of the game. "And then I thought we panicked a little bit offensively. It comes down to my fault – we needed to have them play with a little more composure and a little more toughness – we will have to be more resilient than that on the road to win at a place like Northern Kentucky." "We just have to worry about us … tonight was on us," Lundy said about bouncing back. "They played well – give Northern Kentucky credit – but that breakdown at the end was us. We have to get back to being tougher and getting stops. We had gone 2-0 against them last year and they were really motivated to win tonight. Now we have to regroup and get ready for a Wright State team that will also be hungry after a loss."
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Jan 19, 2024 9:17:17 GMT -6
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Post by Petes on Jan 19, 2024 11:23:16 GMT -6
We are a bottom 15 defensive team in the country. Worse than some SWAC/MEAC teams. Straight embarrassing. Playing like a mediocre AAU team. Start playing defense and maybe they can do something Doesn’t look like Lundy has ever coached defense before or instilled any principles. Whether it’s a make or a miss everyone turns their heads looking to see where their matchup is running down the floor. Too bad basketball is not just a game of 1v1 and guarding your man but actually 5v5. Big men either jogging back because the opponents big man is trailing the play or just being lazy. Sprint back and get your ass in the paint to protect the rim from the drive and see the floor. These are all simple things that are taught at about 10 years old that this team simply doesn’t do and why it’s a bottom 15 defense in the country.
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Post by PantherU on Jan 19, 2024 16:21:49 GMT -6
As long as we're able to outscore people, we're fine. But as soon as the shots aren't dropping, it's difficult to win. I think it's asking a lot from these guys to have at least 3 of the top 4 on their game every single time out.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 19, 2024 18:09:08 GMT -6
As long as we're able to outscore people, we're fine. But as soon as the shots aren't dropping, it's difficult to win. I think it's asking a lot from these guys to have at least 3 of the top 4 on their game every single time out. The great mystery is why K.P. and E.J. can't ever play well on the same day/night. Can't get on the same page!
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 19, 2024 19:23:49 GMT -6
Is this right?! K.P. is shooting 23.9% from 3 for the season and E.J. is shooting 28.1%? I know what the scouting report is!
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Post by TBone on Jan 19, 2024 20:06:18 GMT -6
Is this right?! K.P. is shooting 23.9% from 3 for the season and K.P. is shooting 28.1%? I know what the scouting report is! You said KP for both. EJ is currently at 28%. I believe was at 23% prior to his latest two game hot streak. (20 full percentage points worse than last year) Meanwhile, KP was at 26.5% prior to his two game cold streak. In fairness to KP, he was in foul trouble in the CSU game where he went 0-3, then came off the bench for the first time in a while in this game against NKU. But yes, these guys are struggling big time from outside and have overall for the entire year, and they continue shooting a lot. I like the fact that shooters shoot themselves out of a slump. BJ indeed can do that. I've not seen enough from KP and EJ to consider them able to shoot their way out of slumps and allow them to keep chucking. BTW, last year KP was 39.2% from 3 and EJ was 43.1%.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Jan 19, 2024 20:39:16 GMT -6
Is this right?! K.P. is shooting 23.9% from 3 for the season and K.P. is shooting 28.1%? I know what the scouting report is! You said KP for both. EJ is currently at 28%. I believe was at 23% prior to his latest two game hot streak. (20 full percentage points worse than last year) Meanwhile, KP was at 26.5% prior to his two game cold streak. In fairness to KP, he was in foul trouble in the CSU game where he went 0-3, then came off the bench for the first time in a while in this game against NKU. But yes, these guys are struggling big time from outside and have overall for the entire year, and they continue shooting a lot. I like the fact that shooters shoot themselves out of a slump. BJ indeed can do that. I've not seen enough from KP and EJ to consider them able to shoot their way out of slumps and allow them to keep chucking. BTW, last year KP was 39.2% from 3 and EJ was 43.1%. It's fixed now.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Jan 20, 2024 12:57:26 GMT -6
UWM folds down the stretch, falls at Northern Kentucky Todd Rosiak Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
There wasn't much to be happy about for coach Bart Lundy after a 90-72 loss at Northern Kentucky. The sight of a huge come-from-behind victory for UW-Milwaukee last season, Truist Arena turned out to be a house of horrors this time around.
Within a basket of either tying the game or taking the lead after a Faizon Fields dunk with 7 minutes 4 seconds remaining, the Panthers allowed Northern Kentucky to blow their doors off the rest of the way instead.
The Norse scored 19 of the game's final 22 points and UWM was left to absorb a hugely frustrating 90-72 defeat on Thursday night in Highland Heights, Kentucky.
The Panthers allowed 53.4% shooting, committed a season-high-tying 18 turnovers leading to 21 points and saw Northern Kentucky go 20 for 26 from the free-throw line compared to just a 5-for-7 effort for UWM.
They also never led.
"We didn't handle the frustration tonight," said coach Bart Lundy, whose Panthers entered having won five of their last six and their last three over the Norse. Now, they're back to .500 at 9-9 and 4-3 in the Horizon League.
Northern Kentucky, meanwhile, improved to 11-9 and 6-3. The Norse were picked in October to finish first in the regular-season standings.
"The refereeing, the turnovers, the physical play – we just kind of gave into it at the end," he continued. "That's my fault; I've got to make them a more resilient group. We've got to be a little more defensive-minded. We're making it too much about our offense and not getting stops. We can say what we want, but we still gave up 90 points."
Elijah Jamison set career highs with 22 points and 5 three-pointers. BJ Freeman added 15 points and Erik Pratt 14 – all in the first half – but none of the three were able to get UWM over the hump as the game was decided in the second half.
Four times the Panthers were in position to either tie or take the lead, and each time they fell short thanks to turnovers, missed shots or fouls.
The Fields dunk made it 71-69. A pair of free throws by Northern Kentucky's best player, Marques Warrick, then began a 10-0 run that was finally halted by a three-pointer off the bench from Angelo Stuart – his only basket of the game.
Northern Kentucky continued its march to the free-throw line from there while UWM missed three after three on the other end. The Panthers hit just 2 of 13 from beyond the arc over the final 20 minutes after hitting 9 of 22 in the first half.
"We did shoot a lot threes but I thought we were driving the ball pretty hard," Lundy said. "At the end of the day we've got to be a little cleaner defensively as well as offensively and be a little more resilient down the stretch. We had it to 71-69 and had a chance, then obviously the doors fell off after that."
Six players finished in double figures for the Norse as Warrick led the way with 21. Northern Kentucky also outscored UWM, 44-28, in the paint and 23-9 in second-chance points.
Freeman was in the starting lineup for the first time since Dec. 2 but it was the duo of Pratt and Jamison that did the heavy lifting for the Panthers in the first half.
Pratt hit his first four shots in the opening 5:46 then Jamison scored eight quick points midway through the first half to keep it a one-possession game despite UWM's laxity with the basketball.
Northern Kentucky opened its largest lead of the game to that point at 46-38 on a pair of free throws with 4.3 seconds left but Freeman swished a three from in front the Norse bench with just over a second remaining to make it a 46-41 game.
Pratt and Jamison scored 14 points and canned 4 three-pointers apiece while Freeman added seven points.
UWM won't have much time to dwell on the defeat, as it next travels to face what figures to be a revved-up Wright State team on Saturday.
The Panthers used a big second-half comeback to down the Raiders, 91-83, on Dec. 31 in Milwaukee.
"They'll be ready," Lundy said. "We've got one day to make it about us. We lost at Wright State last year in a game that was similar to tonight and we were able to find a way to bounce back and win at Northern Kentucky.
"We beat Northern Kentucky both times last year and they were extremely motivated tonight to beat us. We're going to get the same thing from Wright State. Our guys are going to know how hard it is to win on the road.
"We've got one day to figure it out."
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