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Post by Pantherholic on Feb 22, 2019 22:48:56 GMT -6
Show me where Bruce, Bo or Rob drove off nearly all of his inherited players and started almost from scratch. My point is essentially that our depth issues are mostly the fault of our bench general. Face it, PBS is in the midst of a long learning loop. Irrespective of the talent level, HE still has much to learn. Rob’s (good) inherited players graduated after his first year causing a complete rebuild in year 2. That year 2 record? 9-22. Year 3? Well Rob and the staff brought in Torre Johnson, Tim Flowers, Kevin Johnson, Roman Gentry and Anthony Hill. Would you care to remind everyone how that went? As for PBS still being in a learning loop, who said he wasn’t still learning on the job? No one? If anyone has claimed he’s close to a finished product, I’d love to see it.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 22, 2019 23:01:58 GMT -6
Show me where Bruce, Bo or Rob drove off nearly all of his inherited players and started almost from scratch. My point is essentially that our depth issues are mostly the fault of our bench general. Face it, PBS is in the midst of a long learning loop. Irrespective of the talent level, HE still has much to learn. Rob’s (good) inherited players graduated after his first year causing a complete rebuild in year 2. That year 2 record? 9-22. Year 3? Well Rob and the staff brought in Torre Johnson, Tim Flowers, Kevin Johnson, Roman Gentry and Anthony Hill. Would you care to remind everyone how that went? As for PBS still being in a learning loop, who said he wasn’t still learning on the job? No one? If anyone has claimed he’s close to a finished product, I’d love to see it. 14-16 with a 180 RPI. Hey, I'm not saying that the guy was John Wooden, Coach K or Bruce Pearl, but that was better than THIS!!! At the moment, our RPI is 314!!
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Feb 23, 2019 6:05:07 GMT -6
"It was a tough way to lose tonight because our guys gave a lot of effort," Baldwin said. "It's unfortunate with that effort – we had some poor execution down the stretch, some turnovers that allowed them to score on the other end."
"I believe in our guys 100 percent," Baldwin said. "We obviously want to be on the other side of a game like this. Our guys are going to continue to fight. And I am not letting down – and I don't suspect anybody in that locker room will quit either. We are going to continue to fight; we have a lot to play for still."
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Post by bizzork on Feb 23, 2019 9:18:43 GMT -6
In the spirit of Justin Lettenberger, here's a common theme we've seen with this year's team failing to close out games by making good decisions and being disciplined: vs. Boston College up 40-27 with 19:30 remaining in the game, BC goes on a 46-13 run. Result: 73-53 Loss vs. Florida International up 76-74 with 5:30 remaining in the game, FIU goes on a 12-7 run. Result: 86-83 Loss vs. North Dakota up 48-44 with 17:00 remaining in the game, ND goes on a 39-24 run. Result: 83-72 Loss vs. Green Bay up 65-62 with 11:00 remaining in the game, GB goes on a 30-17 run. Result: 92-82 Loss vs. Wright State up 34-30 with 17:00 remaining in the game, WSU goes on a 12-0 run and never trails again. Result: 56-54 Loss vs. Northern Kentucky up 34-30 with 18:45 remaining in the game, NKU goes on a 34-10 run and never trails again. Result: 73-60 Loss vs. Youngstown State up 70-66 with 0:12 remaining in the game, Amir Allen fouls YSU on a layup and a missed Darius Roy FT leads to a YSU game-winner. Result: 72-71 Loss vs. Detroit up 61-54 with 13:50 remaining, Detroit goes on a 14-2 run and never trails again. Result: 90-84 Loss vs. IUPUI up 50-45 with 10:45 remaining, IUPUI goes on 9-0 run and never trails again. Result: 67-60 Loss mediamilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Braun-Emails_.pdf
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 10:02:44 GMT -6
Wow those emails are mean-spirited. Talk about someone who loves to pat themselves on the back... Those emails are a textbook case of how NOT to lead. Email after email, Ms. Braun sends detailed, personalized thank you notes to all supporters who emailed her. She whips up a big "US vs. THEM" straw dichotomy insinuating that all detractors- (some of us who have been following since 2000's- some since the 1960's!!)- merely don't "get it".
And to her detractors and anyone bold enough to question her easily questionable motives- ArrrggghBegone!! (I may have missed one, but every reply to extremely-concerned Panther fans and parents was responded to with a cold, tasteless, hypocritical canned PR statement).
What. The. Frack??? This is seriously the person DIRECTING OUR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT? This makes my blood boil. Maybe that's a good thing. It has been a while since I was passionate about the Milwaukee Panthers.
Is it a given that this person is going to continue to run our AD like Machiavelli until.... 2025? 2050? I'd take Rick Costello over this AD in a heartbeat. Because so much originates from the top- it is vital that we have a high-character, motivating leader with management skills. These emails certainly do not point to that kind of leader. Not by a mile.
The line (from our current Athletic Director) that I'll never forget is, "Leading with values of conviction rather than values of convenience" -I would say firing a guy who beat Wisconsin, Minnesota and had the team on a big upswing is not a value of conviction.
To me at least, this is an increasingly worrisome situation and not in the "rear-view" by any stretch. Why did Bud have to retire... Why did we not give Paul Plinske a shot? How much longer will a toxic political personality be running what is left of the show?
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Post by Pantherholic on Feb 23, 2019 10:07:22 GMT -6
14-16 with a 180 RPI. Hey, I'm not saying that the guy was John Wooden, Coach K or Bruce Pearl, but that was better than THIS!!! At the moment, our RPI is 314!! True, Rob's 3rd year was better than PBS' 2nd year but Rob's 2nd year was also a complete waste of time. I don't know what Rob's 2nd year RPI was and I don't really care b/c no one watches a 9-22 team and says "well, at least their RPI is respectable!" I had low expectations for this year and apparently the team said "Aim lower". Regardless, much bigger things are expected for next year so I'm ready to bury this season and look towards a brighter future.
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Post by bizzork on Feb 23, 2019 11:29:51 GMT -6
Wow those emails are mean-spirited. Talk about someone who loves to pat themselves on the back... Those emails are a textbook case of how NOT to lead. Email after email, Ms. Braun sends detailed, personalized thank you notes to all supporters who emailed her. She whips up a big "US vs. THEM" straw dichotomy insinuating that all detractors- (some of us who have been following since 2000's- some since the 1960's!!)- merely don't "get it". And to her detractors and anyone bold enough to question her easily questionable motives- ArrrggghBegone!! (I may have missed one, but every reply to extremely-concerned Panther fans and parents was responded to with a cold, tasteless, hypocritical canned PR statement). What. The. Frack??? This is seriously the person DIRECTING OUR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT? This makes my blood boil. Maybe that's a good thing. It has been a while since I was passionate about the Milwaukee Panthers. Is it a given that this person is going to continue to run our AD like Machiavelli until.... 2025? 2050? I'd take Rick Costello over this AD in a heartbeat. Because so much originates from the top- it is vital that we have a high-character, motivating leader with management skills. These emails certainly do not point to that kind of leader. Not by a mile. The line (from our current Athletic Director) that I'll never forget is, "Leading with values of conviction rather than values of convenience" -I would say firing a guy who beat Wisconsin, Minnesota and had the team on a big upswing is not a value of conviction. To me at least, this is an increasingly worrisome situation and not in the "rear-view" by any stretch. Why did Bud have to retire... Why did we not give Paul Plinske a shot? How much longer will a toxic political personality be running what is left of the show? Agree with everything but the Costello part, I think it was a good move to remove him given what happened. That said, there's a vast ocean of possible ADs that would be an improvement on both.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Feb 23, 2019 12:13:49 GMT -6
In the spirit of Justin Lettenberger, here's a common theme we've seen with this year's team failing to close out games by making good decisions and being disciplined: vs. Boston College up 40-27 with 19:30 remaining in the game, BC goes on a 46-13 run. Result: 73-53 Loss vs. Florida International up 76-74 with 5:30 remaining in the game, FIU goes on a 12-7 run. Result: 86-83 Loss vs. North Dakota up 48-44 with 17:00 remaining in the game, ND goes on a 39-24 run. Result: 83-72 Loss vs. Green Bay up 65-62 with 11:00 remaining in the game, GB goes on a 30-17 run. Result: 92-82 Loss vs. Wright State up 34-30 with 17:00 remaining in the game, WSU goes on a 12-0 run and never trails again. Result: 56-54 Loss vs. Northern Kentucky up 34-30 with 18:45 remaining in the game, NKU goes on a 34-10 run and never trails again. Result: 73-60 Loss vs. Youngstown State up 70-66 with 0:12 remaining in the game, Amir Allen fouls YSU on a layup and a missed Darius Roy FT leads to a YSU game-winner. Result: 72-71 Loss vs. Detroit up 61-54 with 13:50 remaining, Detroit goes on a 14-2 run and never trails again. Result: 90-84 Loss vs. IUPUI up 50-45 with 10:45 remaining, IUPUI goes on 9-0 run and never trails again. Result: 67-60 Loss mediamilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Braun-Emails_.pdfI just can't emphasize enough how much I love this post!
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Post by Spirit of Bruce on Feb 23, 2019 12:39:47 GMT -6
In one of the responses, she claims, "Mediocre is not our standard."
Apparently, she's right. Absolutely terrible is her standard.
What a f**king b****. She should have been run out of town long ago.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Feb 23, 2019 17:03:56 GMT -6
In the spirit of Justin Lettenberger, here's a common theme we've seen with this year's team failing to close out games by making good decisions and being disciplined: vs. Boston College up 40-27 with 19:30 remaining in the game, BC goes on a 46-13 run. Result: 73-53 Loss vs. Florida International up 76-74 with 5:30 remaining in the game, FIU goes on a 12-7 run. Result: 86-83 Loss vs. North Dakota up 48-44 with 17:00 remaining in the game, ND goes on a 39-24 run. Result: 83-72 Loss vs. Green Bay up 65-62 with 11:00 remaining in the game, GB goes on a 30-17 run. Result: 92-82 Loss vs. Wright State up 34-30 with 17:00 remaining in the game, WSU goes on a 12-0 run and never trails again. Result: 56-54 Loss vs. Northern Kentucky up 34-30 with 18:45 remaining in the game, NKU goes on a 34-10 run and never trails again. Result: 73-60 Loss vs. Youngstown State up 70-66 with 0:12 remaining in the game, Amir Allen fouls YSU on a layup and a missed Darius Roy FT leads to a YSU game-winner. Result: 72-71 Loss vs. Detroit up 61-54 with 13:50 remaining, Detroit goes on a 14-2 run and never trails again. Result: 90-84 Loss vs. IUPUI up 50-45 with 10:45 remaining, IUPUI goes on 9-0 run and never trails again. Result: 67-60 Loss Is it poor decision making and/or discipline, fatigue from lack of depth or something else? What quality did the Panthers have in their come from behind wins against LIU Brooklyn, UMKC and Western Michigan that they did not have in the referenced losses? If a combination of reasons, how would it be apportioned? I do not know the answers to these questions. They may be easier to answer after next season.
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Post by bizzork on Feb 23, 2019 18:06:20 GMT -6
In the spirit of Justin Lettenberger, here's a common theme we've seen with this year's team failing to close out games by making good decisions and being disciplined: vs. Boston College up 40-27 with 19:30 remaining in the game, BC goes on a 46-13 run. Result: 73-53 Loss vs. Florida International up 76-74 with 5:30 remaining in the game, FIU goes on a 12-7 run. Result: 86-83 Loss vs. North Dakota up 48-44 with 17:00 remaining in the game, ND goes on a 39-24 run. Result: 83-72 Loss vs. Green Bay up 65-62 with 11:00 remaining in the game, GB goes on a 30-17 run. Result: 92-82 Loss vs. Wright State up 34-30 with 17:00 remaining in the game, WSU goes on a 12-0 run and never trails again. Result: 56-54 Loss vs. Northern Kentucky up 34-30 with 18:45 remaining in the game, NKU goes on a 34-10 run and never trails again. Result: 73-60 Loss vs. Youngstown State up 70-66 with 0:12 remaining in the game, Amir Allen fouls YSU on a layup and a missed Darius Roy FT leads to a YSU game-winner. Result: 72-71 Loss vs. Detroit up 61-54 with 13:50 remaining, Detroit goes on a 14-2 run and never trails again. Result: 90-84 Loss vs. IUPUI up 50-45 with 10:45 remaining, IUPUI goes on 9-0 run and never trails again. Result: 67-60 Loss Is it poor decision making and/or discipline, fatigue from lack of depth or something else? What quality did the Panthers have in their come from behind wins against LIU Brooklyn, UMKC and Western Michigan that they did not have in the referenced losses? If a combination of reasons, how would it be apportioned? I do not know the answers to these questions. They may be easier to answer after next season. You know, you bring up some good questions. In 2015-16, Milwaukee had 18 come-from-behind wins in addition to the games Justin pointed out. Yet per Justin, the lack of discipline and poor decision-making was showing up only when losing the 9 basically 50-50 games to an average KenPom rating of 153. (Comeback wins that year were vs. an average rating of 223). I can only imagine that the same is true with this year's team losing to an average KenPom rating of 189 in the 9 above games. The 3 games you bring up where Milwaukee came back were vs. an average KenPom rating of 256, so one hypothesis is that this year's opponents that coughed up leads were just that terrible.
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