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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 11, 2018 7:51:33 GMT -6
I see my email to the athletic department did no good this spring with the piss poor way of security when you enter the arena. Ladies can you lift your shirt? WTF!
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Post by thrillho on Nov 11, 2018 7:53:54 GMT -6
My other observations... -Intro video this year is probably one of the best I've seen. Great job with that. -Concessions were disappointing. Only 1 main stand opened. Could not even get a hot dog for my son. Luckily the chicken strip place was open. -I noticed an usher spending half the game kicking fans out of the courtside seats..including a couple former players. Kind of awkward. If they are allowed to be there...get them the correct tickets. - Glad that they are keeping up the giveaways, time-out activities, extra t-shirt toss, etc.
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Post by PantherNation on Nov 11, 2018 9:06:15 GMT -6
I see my email to the athletic department did no good this spring with the piss poor way of security when you enter the arena. Ladies can you lift your shirt? WTF! Surprised they didn’t ask my 3 year old to lift his shirt. With only a few “security stations” when walking in, you’d think they could afford a couple of metal detector wands. What are they... $100 each maybe?? Do they do the same for Admirals games? I’m guessing an email would need I go to WCD and not the Athletic Department.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Nov 11, 2018 9:55:48 GMT -6
It was a little vexing that the Arena was 18.3% filled to capacity and only 11.1% of its concession stands were open. We chose to not wait in line and miss six minutes of the second half.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 11, 2018 10:12:25 GMT -6
I see my email to the athletic department did no good this spring with the piss poor way of security when you enter the arena. Ladies can you lift your shirt? WTF! Surprised they didn’t ask my 3 year old to lift his shirt. With only a few “security stations” when walking in, you’d think they could afford a couple of metal detector wands. What are they... $100 each maybe?? Do they do the same for Admirals games? I’m guessing an email would need I go to WCD and not the Athletic Department. I have an Admirals voucher ticket plan. There is zero security stations at Admirals games. I don't know what the Wave do. This is a UWM thing. Also, you can go outside at smoke for Admirals games. UWM doesn't allow it.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Nov 11, 2018 10:53:31 GMT -6
After returning from the GCU home opener last night it was disappointing to see that a replay of the Panther game was not available on the ESPN app despite the Panther's schedule having listed it. I cannot recall the last time a Panther regular season home game was not available for streaming. I wonder if this has something to do with the game being on My24. I would be surprised if it did, as I assume UWM buys the TV time from the station's owner and has complete control regarding any exclusivity consideration.
I was relegated to the three or four minute video highlight package on the Panther's YouTube channel. I could not get a feel for the game or atmosphere from that, other than to see a lack of early scoring and a late rally fueled by CWN 3's.
One nice thing about the in-season home and home series with North Dakota is we will get to see how this still-new group of Panther players progress when the two teams play again in December.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 11, 2018 11:08:04 GMT -6
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on Nov 11, 2018 11:08:44 GMT -6
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fan
Sophomore
Don't shoot so much Tone.
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Post by fan on Nov 11, 2018 15:21:59 GMT -6
I really like Darius Roy. That's about it. Him and Lucas will be pretty dynamic next year. banking on anyone staying with the program for more than a year is dangerous.
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Post by tom22 on Dec 9, 2018 20:54:37 GMT -6
After returning from the GCU home opener last night it was disappointing to see that a replay of the Panther game was not available on the ESPN app despite the Panther's schedule having listed it. I cannot recall the last time a Panther regular season home game was not available for streaming. I wonder if this has something to do with the game being on My24. I would be surprised if it did, as I assume UWM buys the TV time from the station's owner and has complete control regarding any exclusivity consideration. I was relegated to the three or four minute video highlight package on the Panther's YouTube channel. I could not get a feel for the game or atmosphere from that, other than to see a lack of early scoring and a late rally fueled by CWN 3's. One nice thing about the in-season home and home series with North Dakota is we will get to see how this still-new group of Panther players progress when the two teams play again in December. Regarding paragraph 3 above - did anyone see any progress? (For Milwaukee?)
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Post by Cactus Panther on Dec 12, 2018 10:15:40 GMT -6
As stated in the quoted paragraph, I did not watch the November game, so my comparison is limited.
I now understand that like Milwaukee, North Dakota has 11 new players this season, so both teams were very green in the first matchup and had the same opportunity to progress going into the second one. In the first matchup, CWN came off the bench and hit 4 consecutive 3's in a short span of the 2nd half, which resulted in a game that went down to the buzzer. In the second game, he hardly played. Some Panther fans, including me, do not understand why his minutes are down lately.
The biggest change since the first game is perception of the team and program by the few of us who still post on this board, and probably others. At the time of the first game, there was still a feeling out process and curiosity. After the second game, there is frustration and even despair regarding the program. The latter has happened during low points in almost all of the past 14 seasons.
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Post by ghostofdylan on Dec 12, 2018 11:57:23 GMT -6
In short, this team simply isn't wired to win at all without any contribution from Carson Warren-Newsome.
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Post by BBFran on Dec 12, 2018 13:02:43 GMT -6
As stated in the quoted paragraph, I did not watch the November game, so my comparison is limited. ... The biggest change since the first game is perception of the team and program by the few of us who still post on this board, and probably others. At the time of the first game, there was still a feeling out process and curiosity. After the second game, there is frustration and even despair regarding the program. The latter has happened during low points in almost all of the past 14 seasons. I just don't see the point of pretending that what's happening now is ANYTHING like the years between 2000 and 2016. Doing so simply allows those in the administration who would rather not have athletics to deal with at all to ignore the crisis. This isn't even mostly about the current abysmal state of the team itself. Sure, it's possible that in a year or two Coach Baldwin could get the team back to .500 or even better, especially considering how terrible the league is now. That's not the most pressing issue. This is about what has happened to the PROGRAM. And most important, what has happened to support for the program. It's GONE. This board is just a microcosm, literally. The fans have DISAPPEARED since Braun made her big move. The biggest donors said "WE'RE OUT." Have you noticed the disappearance also of many old advertising sponsors? Why in the world should they stick around? dylan pointed out to me recently that on February 26, 2018 -- barely more than 2 1/2 years ago -- we played a rollicking great college basketball game in the Arena against Valpo in front of over 5,000 actual fans. I was there and remember it well. Would anyone here HONESTLY bet their paycheck that we will see 5,000 total fans in the entire HL home slate (9 games) in the Arena this year? I'm not talking about whatever comically inflated attendance figures the department reports that sweep in band members paid to be there and dance team members and cheerleaders and managers and for all I know the ushers and (three) concessionaires. I mean real fans, in the stands. This is NOTHING like any "low point" from 2000 - 2016. Even in the terrible Klotsche banishment year we had actual attendance that dwarfed what we are seeing now. And this isn't some momentary issue. It has been like this for 2 1/2 seasons now! Our University had one sports program capable both of selling tickets and generating significant positive publicity for the rest of the University. One. How in the world does the administration continue to ignore its dying "[n]ot with a bang but a whimper?" There may only be a few of us left who care -- which I suspect does not bother some in Chapman Hall -- but I'm not going to pretend there's nothing to see here. We are watching the devolution of a once proud program.
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Post by Cactus Panther on Dec 12, 2018 15:12:45 GMT -6
I agree that the primary issue is what has happened to the program. Your focus is on on the latter stages of the downfall, particularly your preferred coach's firing on 3/17/16 and subsequent developments. My focus is on the beginning of the downfall, which many others and I believe started with Bud Haidet's mistake in hiring Bruce Pearl's replacement, subsequent contractual extensions that paralyzed the program, a series of terrible AD hires and many other subsequent developments. We and others have stated our respective cases ad nauseum. Let's not rehash again, please. I just point this out to explain the primary difference of our viewpoints. I was not trying to suggest that the low point of today is identical to low points of prior seasons. We agree that the program is at a lower point now. My point is fans' reaction at relative low points of prior seasons is similar - frustration and despair. Here is an example from a season that led to a postseason NCAA tournament berth uwmfreak.proboards.com/thread/6593/game-29-uic?page=6. I have used this thread as an example before. Looking back on our board, you will find similar threads each and every season in which frustrated fans vent. Meanwhile, I remain a fan of the team. I go to games when I am in Wisconsin and watch or listen to games every chance I get. I continue to look at this board almost daily and absorb the little media attention about the program that there is. I talk Panther athletics, especially basketball, with friends and acqaintances. None of my fan involvement will have any bearing on the future direction of the program. I wish I had control over the program's destiny, but I don't. There is a chance that things will get much better some day. It has happened before, especially after the Steve Antrum scandal/Ric Cobb era. Next time maybe it will come from a change in university administration. Maybe a Pat Richter-like AD hiring. Maybe getting lucky again with Bo Ryan/Bruce Pearl-like coaching hires. Maybe landing a coach's son who happens to be a top prospect in the nation. If we are pretending, it is because sports fanatism is an escape from the realities of everyday life. Some of us are fans who just want to be entertained. Some of us prefer to approach our interest in certain sports programs or teams with a glass-half-full approach. There is nothing wrong with that.
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Post by Duct_Tape_Pounce on Dec 12, 2018 18:01:39 GMT -6
I agree that the primary issue is what has happened to the program. Your focus is on on the latter stages of the downfall, particularly your preferred coach's firing on 3/17/16 and subsequent developments. My focus is on the beginning of the downfall, which many others and I believe started with Bud Haidet's mistake in hiring Bruce Pearl's replacement, subsequent contractual extensions that paralyzed the program, a series of terrible AD hires and many other subsequent developments. We and others have stated our respective cases ad nauseum. Let's not rehash again, please. I just point this out to explain the primary difference of our viewpoints. I was not trying to suggest that the low point of today is identical to low points of prior seasons. We agree that the program is at a lower point now. My point is fans' reaction at relative low points of prior seasons is similar - frustration and despair. Here is an example from a season that led to a postseason NCAA tournament berth uwmfreak.proboards.com/thread/6593/game-29-uic?page=6. I have used this thread as an example before. Looking back on our board, you will find similar threads each and every season in which frustrated fans vent. Meanwhile, I remain a fan of the team. I go to games when I am in Wisconsin and watch or listen to games every chance I get. I continue to look at this board almost daily and absorb the little media attention about the program that there is. I talk Panther athletics, especially basketball, with friends and acqaintences. None of my fan involvement will have any bearing on the future direction of the program. I wish I had control over the program's destiny, but I don't. There is a chance that things will get much better some day. It has happened before, especially after the Steve Antrum scandel/Ric Cobb era. Next time maybe it will come from a change in university administration. Maybe a Pat Richter-like AD hiring. Maybe getting lucky again with Bo Ryan/Bruce Pearl-like coaching hires. Maybe landing a coach's son who happens to be a top prospect in the nation. If we are pretending, it is because sports fanatism is an escape from the realities of everyday live. Some of us are fans who just want to be entertained. Some of us prefer to approach our interest in certain sports programs or teams with a glass-half-full approach. There is nothing wrong with that. Very well put, Cactus Panther! It is hard to see the attendance at these games as low as it has been, but I’m hoping it will get better soon.
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