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Post by ghostofdylan on May 14, 2015 5:34:58 GMT -6
Fellas, what do you want them to do for home games?
The MAC is paying up to $300,000 to cash-grabbing guests and the MVC is able to pay $500,000 or more.
As much as we may not like it, college basketball is now more than ever a money game.
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Post by Pantherholic on May 15, 2015 12:43:45 GMT -6
I understand scheduling is not easy, but TRY HARDER. I don't think it's a matter of effort as much as it is finances and leverage. Limited finances = limited leverage = limited results. It sucks but it seems to be the reality of the situation.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on May 15, 2015 13:21:36 GMT -6
Well, we're not playing Belmont this year. I said that a while back in the thread. Bill Behrns said the Belmont game might be in 2017.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on May 15, 2015 13:36:35 GMT -6
This goes out to anyone, why does it "really" matter that a home game in November or December is versus a non-D1 school?
Most of the lower end D1 schools are from the south and take the big paycheck from the multi-bid type leagues. Would it make people feel better to play a D1 game versus Chicago State (333 RPI) or a Western Illinois (328 RPI)
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Post by ghostofdylan on May 15, 2015 15:43:09 GMT -6
This goes out to anyone, why does it "really" matter that a home game in November or December is versus a non-D1 school? Most of the lower end D1 schools are from the south and take the big paycheck from the multi-bid type leagues. Would it make people feel better to play a D1 game versus Chicago State (333 RPI) or a Western Illinois (328 RPI) As long as we're in the Horizon League, I don't think it really matters at all.
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Post by BBFran on May 15, 2015 17:15:15 GMT -6
With respect to home games it's very simple:
1) We don't have the money to pay for buy games against crappy D1 teams.
2) Power conference teams won't give us 1 for 1 home and homes. And with UW already an imbalanced series we just dig a deeper scheduling hole if we give other power conference teams an imbalanced series.
3) Every other team in the HL and in fact virtually every other mid-major is in the same boat.
That's just the way it is. Complaining that we're going to play D2 teams is totally understandable. NOBODY likes it. But what's the solution? I keep saying that it's going to come down to the mid-major leagues figuring out that we have to have non-con home and home challenges and tournaments with each other. But as dylan noted, some of them -- especially the ones with football money -- are trying to buy their way out of the problem. We can't.
With respect to road games we have a different problem. Why on earth would -- oh, let's just throw Illinois out there -- play us when they can buy a guaranteed win? In an era when making the tournament can be career life or death for the mediocre coach of a so-so power conference team, why would he risk playing a team his fans and the media have no respect for when he knows that team is actually pretty dangerous?
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Post by ghostofdylan on May 15, 2015 17:30:26 GMT -6
Oh, let's just throw Illinois out there. I see what you did there.
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Post by BBFran on May 15, 2015 17:52:06 GMT -6
Purely an example of a so-so power conference team with a mediocre coach who's running scared, of course. No other reason.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on May 15, 2015 19:01:17 GMT -6
Thank goodness NKU is coming in, that is two less non-conference games to worry about.
Not to many options for H/H in the upper midwest for mid-majors like in the south and southeast. When you add travel cost, some feel it's just not worth it anymore.
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Post by ghostofdylan on May 16, 2015 7:08:31 GMT -6
If the league does eventually expand by two more teams, I hope that it stays with the round-robin format and adopts a 22-game schedule.
Simply put, it's easier to find eight or nine non-league opponents than it is to find 12 or 13.
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Post by PantherU on May 16, 2015 12:07:02 GMT -6
If the league does eventually expand by two more teams, I hope that it stays with the round-robin format and adopts a 22-game schedule. Simply put, it's easier to find eight or nine non-league opponents than it is to find 12 or 13. I'm all about this, as long as the 11th and 12th teams aren't YSU-lite. They'd kill the conference RPI, because you'd have 6 games against anchors. I honestly believe our best bet is to find a solid replacement and kick YSU to the curb, then go with 10. Only go to 12 if you're getting Murray and Belmont or teams we think will be a real benefit to the conference.
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Post by Super King on May 16, 2015 13:33:46 GMT -6
I think it's time to acknowledge that college scheduling is imbalanced and boring, especially at higher levels, before the conference season begins. College ball basically has a half-season that is more and more only becoming interesting once January begins.
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Post by Pounce Needs Pals on May 16, 2015 18:10:10 GMT -6
I do love the exempt tournaments during Thanksgiving week.
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Post by ghostofdylan on May 16, 2015 22:00:32 GMT -6
I think it's time to acknowledge that college scheduling is imbalanced and boring, especially at higher levels, before the conference season begins. College ball basically has a half-season that is more and more only becoming interesting once January begins. "It's a sad state of affairs."
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Post by BBFran on May 17, 2015 11:40:57 GMT -6
The exempt tourneys and the conference challenges are good. And the networks set up some decent matches for TV, but only among high majors. Other than that the non-con is basically a procession of scrimmages and forgettable games. Why? Because the NCAA tournament has become the be-all. That drives everything else.
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