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Post by uwm97 on Jan 27, 2015 15:50:06 GMT -6
40 doesn't feel very young
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Post by FTA1982 on Jan 27, 2015 19:09:29 GMT -6
If the right way is APR bans, 20 point road losses and fan apathy, I'll pass.
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Post by PantherU on Jan 27, 2015 19:29:44 GMT -6
Say the 2010 team didn't lose at the wire, or didn't have to run into the national runner-up at all. Say the 2011 team didn't also run into that year's national runner-up, instead facing a significantly worse team at home in the title game.
If you're asking us to look at hypotheticals, I only think it's fair to put that one out there. At the end of the 2010 and 2011 seasons, the Panthers were by far the best team left in the Horizon League save for the best two teams in Horizon League history: the 2010 Butler Bulldogs and the 2011 Butler Bulldogs. Going into Jeter's tenth year, the Panthers would have four NCAA tournament berths on his watch - 06, 10, 11, 14. Nobody is firing that guy, no matter how bad this year is.
So if we have to say that 'sure, Steve Showalter would have done it in 06 with that team,' then we have to acknowledge that Bruce Pearl never had to face the greatest teams in Horizon League history. If the 2005 team had a home title game against the best team in Horizon League history rather than beating the 6th best Detroit team in the past ten years by one point, you'd be looking at Bruce Pearl's tenure as four years, one NCAA Tournament.
Trying to discredit Jeter for a player he recruited and coached scoring five points more per game in the conference tournament than he did in the regular season is just ridiculous.
Hypothetical scenarios are fun to think about, but the fact of the matter is we don't know what's coming. All I know is we are ten months removed from the NCAA Tournament, which is 95% of what matters to college basketball fans - and it's also what matters to players. So let's just agree that the APR ban, while a tired topic, is not irrelevant here.
28 feels fine.
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Post by yuhayden on Jan 28, 2015 7:39:20 GMT -6
I, for one, would love to see a solid foundation in place for our men's basketball program so that it can rise to a level where it can afford to pay a coach $500K/year. Oh wait. This.
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Post by uwm97 on Jan 28, 2015 8:31:48 GMT -6
When judging Jeter's performance, I throw out '06, and I throw out '07 as well as he had to basically start over. So since the start of the '08 season, these are the facts: through this season, Jeter is 115-122 versus D-1 opponents. His conference record checks in at 67-61, a .523 winning percentage, and one NCAA appearance largely due to Jordan Aaron, as another poster aptly stated, pulling a Kemba Walker during the conference tournament. For a guy who's been running things for 10 years and paid how he is, is the university getting its money's worth? Dress it up anyway you want, throw is all excuses you can think of, the facts are the program is nothing but utterly mediocre.
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