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Post by germanathens on Jan 23, 2006 21:25:34 GMT -6
The Klotsche Center addition is basically completed besides some minor detail work. For those who have not toured the addition yet, you are missing out. Beautiful, massive facility. This ushers in a new phase of athletics training and also provides a great recreation area for students. The Klotsche now gives us some leverage in recruitment. It is worth your time to wander through the building... or hit the weights. ;D Later, UWMfreak
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Post by bball30 on Jan 23, 2006 23:13:20 GMT -6
I heard rumor today............
Not gonna be too happy about this if it's true, but supposedly intermurals are moving back to the arena, and the new facility will be for athletic use during the evenings. This addition was done for THE STUDENTS all 28,000 of them, not for the couple hundred athletes on campus. If this slowly evolves into another scenario where athletes get whatever the hell they want, this will create an outrage. If anyone knows anything more about this I would love to know more. T
Thanks
bball30
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fan
Sophomore
Don't shoot so much Tone.
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Post by fan on Jan 24, 2006 0:15:37 GMT -6
I've heard a few of my athlete buddies saying that they hope it does indeed happen so if it is merely a rumor, it is definately a widespread one.
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Post by nighthawk on Jan 24, 2006 7:59:42 GMT -6
The addition was intended for two real purposes. The first and most obvious was to allow the athletic department to have a top of the line facility for recruitment and for practice and training.
Secondarily, the addition will be accessible by the students when not in use by the athletic program. In that same vein, the original portion of the Klotsche will not be inaccessible at any time going forward.
For those who might find this "offensive", I would ask one question: When you were in High School, and the gym or weight room (for those who had one) was in use by the basketball or football team, did you feel as though you were wronged and you should have 100% access to those facilities at all times?
I would think not. Any student who is willing to b*tch about not having access to the addition does not grasp the importance associated with a top athletic program, and should transfer to MATC or a similar "education only" institution.
The athletes are ambassadors and serve as living promotions for our University. They represent us on national television and in cities around the nation. They have demands on their time the non athlete can't fathom, and I think it's not out of line that they receive some perks for the effort they put out that is, at least in part, to represent the school we all love.
The "anti-jock" purple haired, multi pierced, protest attending, nerd farmers can stuff it. No one b*tches when there are facilities devoted to academic pursuits, mostly because NO ONE WATCHES ACADEMICS ON TV.
When, if ever, a national television program mentions UW-Milwaukee because the chess team is doing well, or because the Women's Studies Department is just on fire right now, I'll rescind this comment.
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fan
Sophomore
Don't shoot so much Tone.
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Post by fan on Jan 24, 2006 8:43:18 GMT -6
The "anti-jock" purple haired, multi pierced, protest attending, nerd farmers can stuff it. No one b*tches when there are facilities devoted to academic pursuits, mostly because NO ONE WATCHES ACADEMICS ON TV. When, if ever, a national television program mentions UW-Milwaukee because the chess team is doing well, or because the Women's Studies Department is just on fire right now, I'll rescind this comment. You're killing your point by going overboard. I think you just pissed off a lot of people that didn't need to be pissed off. I for one am fine with it but your explanation is WAY over the top.
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Post by germanathens on Jan 24, 2006 8:45:10 GMT -6
bball30,
I hope this is not accurate. The addition was built so athletics would have new offices, new weights area, and then get the entire OLD Klotsche. If this is true, there will be a ton of angry students on campus, me included.
Keep us updated!
Later, UWMfreak
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ArtVandelay
Freshman
I am Art Vandelay, I am an Importer/Exporter
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Post by ArtVandelay on Jan 24, 2006 8:53:56 GMT -6
I went to the Klotsche center yesterday, and I highly doubt that there will be any problems with the new gym being off limits because of athletics practices. There is no way the track team will be in the new gym, and yesterday Rob Jeter and the team were still practicing in the auxiliary gym. Unless the new gym gains a scoreboard so that the team can work on game situations I expect many of the sports teams to still use the old arena. My understanding is that Rob wants closed practices and the elevated running track and cardio room would make that impossible in the new gym unless they closed the entire thing down. The thing that surprised me the most when I went to play basketball was the amount of people at the Klotsche. In fact you will find the large number of people attempting to use the facilities more frustrating than an athletic team using the auxiliary gym.
Art Vandelay
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Post by Pantherholic on Jan 24, 2006 9:07:29 GMT -6
The "anti-jock" purple haired, multi pierced, protest attending, nerd farmers can stuff it. lol i think you describe a decent amount of ppl in my major!
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Kingsbury
Junior
Sadly, no longer in the "Fear 42" Fan Club!!!
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Post by Kingsbury on Jan 24, 2006 9:17:14 GMT -6
Just an observation, but the basketball courts in the auxiliary gym are not college regulation size and I didn't see any lines where they could make a college court. It would be a little hard to try to run the offense on a HS court.
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Post by germanathens on Jan 24, 2006 9:33:53 GMT -6
Baseball definitely cannot practice in the new addition...too many windows. Perhaps track and field or soccer? Mostly conditioning purposes. Track would be limited to sprints and basic training for field events. V-ball could definitely use the gym. Otherwise, I'm not sure what else could possibly take over the new facility.
Students will not be happy if this happens, but it seems unlikely.
Later, UWMfreak
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Post by nighthawk on Jan 24, 2006 9:51:18 GMT -6
The "anti-jock" purple haired, multi pierced, protest attending, nerd farmers can stuff it. No one b*tches when there are facilities devoted to academic pursuits, mostly because NO ONE WATCHES ACADEMICS ON TV. When, if ever, a national television program mentions UW-Milwaukee because the chess team is doing well, or because the Women's Studies Department is just on fire right now, I'll rescind this comment. You're killing your point by going overboard. I think you just pissed off a lot of people that didn't need to be pissed off. I for one am fine with it but your explanation is WAY over the top. I exaggerate with intent. I was attempting to illustrate the intolerant attitude of the self described "tolerant" students. If this "offends" some people, perhaps they need to grow thicker skins. As a conservative student, I was subject to ridicule on an almost daily basis in AND out of the classroom by students AND faculty. I accepted it as a part of life and learned to deal. And as I have been made aware, the new facilities are most likely to be used for things other than athletic practices and training. If some people find off limits status in the "old" facilities unacceptable, I reiterate my request that they find another education only institution to attend. Then again, maybe I'm all wrong. It could be that Duke basketball practices are scheduled around the intramural volleyball games at Cameron Indoor or are held in facilities open to the general student population at all times to play pick up hoops or tether ball.
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Post by bball30 on Jan 24, 2006 11:48:47 GMT -6
Nighthawk, I don't even know where to start.
You took all of this personal, for what reason, I dont know. Although we here on the board, with some other students on campus view our athletic programs as the only thing that takes place on campus, there is greater life out there. Many, many time has this university been recognized national for research and development, and is still recieving grants from the state to further research. You loose all validity to your arguments because you go WAY too far.
My post was not to shoot down athletics in any way shape or form. I worked for the program for several years as a matter of fact. As far as the demands on their time for the hard work we can't fathom, you are clueless. DO YOU know the benefits they already reap on a daily basis? Whens the last time you saw an athlete working two jobs to pay tuition? And with the exceptoin of a few, working their asses off in the classroom? Now I'm not saying all athletes are lazy and have things handed to them, because it's quite obvious the amount of hard work they put in. All I ask you to see is that it's all relative. The new Klotsche was created for the students, off of state money. Yes to boost recruiting with facilities, but also to "boost recruiting" as far as offering their students more opportunities while attending here.
So please just relax, no one is saying they should cancel anything from the basketball players. And if you can't handle that, then maybe you should transfer to MATC
GO PANTHERS
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Post by uwmfan on Jan 24, 2006 12:23:35 GMT -6
Folks, let's have a little perspective here.....
If the concern is an inability for students to use the new facility if athletics were to be using it, keep in mind that, before the new facility there were times when NOBODY could use ANY athletic facility when athletics had it. Today, with this addition at least an entire arena won't be closed as a result of needs by athletics alone.
The Klotsche Center and Pavillion continue to be, and always will be, designed to serve a multitude of needs for the campus. Regardless of which side of the fence you sit on (athletics support vs. students first), in the words of the late Dr. Jeff Fries (former Klotsche Center director) "...we will never be able to please all of the people, all of the time."
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Post by svk323 on Jan 24, 2006 12:58:13 GMT -6
Due to the increased demand to use the facility the university has made the decision to limit those who can use the facility as far as outisde members coming in. The facility will only be open to students, faculty, and staff. Community and alumni members will not be able to use the facilities. I have heard that alumni members will be able to do so only after paying a $500 one-time fee first. The website for the Klotsche Center has taken down their membership information to update with their new membership information. I'm not sure when this decision was made, but know it was effective yesterday.
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Post by nighthawk on Jan 24, 2006 13:53:17 GMT -6
Nighthawk, I don't even know where to start. You took all of this personal, for what reason, I don't know. Although we here on the board, with some other students on campus view our athletic programs as the only thing that takes place on campus, there is greater life out there. Many, many time has this university been recognized national for research and development, and is still receiving grants from the state to further research. You loose all validity to your arguments because you go WAY too far. My post was not to shoot down athletics in any way shape or form. I worked for the program for several years as a matter of fact. As far as the demands on their time for the hard work we can't fathom, you are clueless. DO YOU know the benefits they already reap on a daily basis? Whens the last time you saw an athlete working two jobs to pay tuition? And with the exception of a few, working their asses off in the classroom? Now I'm not saying all athletes are lazy and have things handed to them, because it's quite obvious the amount of hard work they put in. All I ask you to see is that it's all relative. The new Klotsche was created for the students, off of state money. Yes to boost recruiting with facilities, but also to "boost recruiting" as far as offering their students more opportunities while attending here. So please just relax, no one is saying they should cancel anything from the basketball players. And if you can't handle that, then maybe you should transfer to MATC GO PANTHERS Perhaps I need to further clarify. I made the comments with a tongue FIRMLY planted in my cheek. I was not at all then, or am I now, offended in any way. I guess sarcasm doesn't work as well in the written word, unless it in the Onion. As an FYI, I am an alumni, not a student. I am the son of two alums, as well. the love of UW-Milwaukee runs deep in our family, and has even enveloped my children who are not yet even of High School age. On a serious not, I find complaints about access to facilities by students to be a straw man argument. Can any student simply walk into laboratory facilities (paid for entirely or in part by state funds) and begin to throw chemicals together, or conduct psychics experiments? I would guess not unless you are enrolled in a class that would require access. I'm sure there are numerous ACADEMIC facilities that are not open to general use, but no one complains about that for a second. but put up an athletics facility and even mention the idea that it be occasionally closed to anyone but those in the Athletics programs, and all h*ll breaks loose. Rumors run rampant, and people begin to gripe. In my experience in a college atmosphere there is an element, sometimes a rather large one, that hates the "jock" culture and looks straight down their noses at those "dumb" "muscle heads". They are viewed as pampered and spoiled and stupid. they are viewed as not legitimate students, while an English or Physics major is for more "academic" and worthy of University resources. Those are the "purple haired" people to which I refer, again, mostly in jest with humor in mind. And for the record, I am indeed proud of the academic standing of my beloved UWM, and take every opportunity to speak it's praise to anyone that will listen.
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