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Post by Hack on Sept 15, 2010 14:30:09 GMT -6
NOTE: These are only schools with football. Division II Division III
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Post by skrapheap on Sept 15, 2010 14:38:23 GMT -6
If Whitewater or Lacrosse is planning a move to D-II, then they're planning an eventual move to D-I. Personally, I think it makes sense to explore the opportunity; D-I is the prize, and while we may feel bad about our current situation as a "mid-major," we are definitely higher up on the totem pole in the national consciousness than any D-II or D-III school. If Whitewater or LaCrosse decided to go D1, they would at least have a significant advantage in that they are rather large as universities go. i couldn't find Whitewater's stats, but LaCrosse has about 10,000 students, and i think Whitewater is larger. Green Bay has what....5000 students?
That means a larger base of current student and alumni support to draw on if you're contemplating going up to a higher level.
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Post by BBFran on Sept 15, 2010 16:34:15 GMT -6
Surprised by those charts as it seems like there are no non D-1 football teams in the West. I'm assuming that if you had a similar chart for NAIA teams it would show a lot more activity out west.
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Post by uwmfutbol on Sept 15, 2010 18:11:41 GMT -6
Gotcha. Didn't realize D2 football was so popular. It's pretty scattered though. Man D3 really is concentrated in the North.
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Post by PantherU on Sept 15, 2010 19:16:45 GMT -6
Oh and here's another thing...Lacrosse actually offers a Doctorate, something Green Bay does not hahaha
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Post by skrapheap on Sept 16, 2010 10:30:54 GMT -6
Oh and here's another thing...Lacrosse actually offers a Doctorate, something Green Bay does not hahaha A quibble: UW-La Crosse participates with UW-Milwaukee in a consortial doctoral program in Physical Therapy. Not quite the same thing as La Crosse offering a doctorate by itself.
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Post by PantherU on Sept 17, 2010 10:55:20 GMT -6
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Post by TBone on Sept 18, 2010 21:34:39 GMT -6
I think you're forgetting about the Air Force Academy in Colorado. CU, CSU, and AFA. Sorry, had to stick up for my state.
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Post by PantherU on Sept 18, 2010 21:58:04 GMT -6
Thanks, T-Bone. In fact, just a little tip of my research showed that 27 U.S. territories (states, commonwealths, and D.C.) have more D-I football programs than Wisconsin - that's 27 smaller territories. Minnesota and Wisconsin are largely unrepresented at the D-I level in football - it's no wonder that Minnesota football dominates D-II and Wisconsin football dominates D-III.
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dutchpthr
Junior
ain't much if it ain't dutch
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Post by dutchpthr on Sept 19, 2010 1:08:14 GMT -6
I think you're forgetting about the Air Force Academy in Colorado. CU, CSU, and AFA. Sorry, had to stick up for my state. Oh damn how did i miss that one, I always forget Air Force is in CO.....my bad! I do love CO tho beautiful state
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Post by uwmfutbol on Sept 19, 2010 17:45:57 GMT -6
$88 million to bring in Division I hockey? What a massive waste of money.
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Post by Hack on Sept 19, 2010 18:04:35 GMT -6
$88 million to bring in Division I hockey? What a massive waste of money. Because you don't like hockey?
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Rawls
Junior
Everyone's Entitled To My Opinion
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Post by Rawls on Sept 19, 2010 18:27:09 GMT -6
Depends on the area. Not sure about Central Pa, but hockey is huge in New England and Minnesota, among other places. Hopefully the Big Ten-lve doesn't shove its nose into this. PSU can join the CCHA or Atlantic.
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Post by uwmfutbol on Sept 19, 2010 18:53:30 GMT -6
$88 million to bring in Division I hockey? What a massive waste of money. Because you don't like hockey? Actually I do like hockey--it's a blast to watch. But there's some big questions with the need to add it: is hockey even going to be profitable there? How popular is the sport with the students and surrounding community (I know that hockey's big in Pittsburgh, obviously)? I'm all for financial contributions to athletics, but that's a LOT of money. I would bet that PSU's big thing will always be football. There's a difference between us spending money on a sport like football to give us a better sports/college image versus a school that's had it for generations. Basketball and football are the big guns in this country for college athletics, and I don't see hockey ever coming near them. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the next big sport is Lacrosse--especially on the coast. So yeah, in my situation I would've likely donated the $88 million elsewhere, but it's not my money. Especially in this economy, though, I would imagine that that money would find better uses even at Penn State.
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Post by uwmfutbol on Sept 19, 2010 18:58:40 GMT -6
Nevertheless, I will admit: it'd be cool if the Big Ten brought Ice Hockey on officially. Six teams is enough.
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